How Do You Relate To God? ( Archived) (48)

Oct 18, 2009 1:33 AM CST How Do You Relate To God?
RobertC2
RobertC2RobertC2Xaghra, Gozo, Gozo Malta91 Threads 8 Polls 8,344 Posts
mnowsa: i am not sure that women here would be very encouraged after your " try, try again" plan. how about just say that you are going to try this one more time and you will do everything to make it work?


Nah............. the ten year trial marriage plan will either work or won't! wine
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Oct 18, 2009 1:39 AM CST How Do You Relate To God?
mnowsa
mnowsamnowsaRajshahi, Rajshahi Division Bangladesh145 Threads 3 Polls 7,536 Posts
RobertC2: Nah............. the ten year trial marriage plan will either work or won't!
doh
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Oct 18, 2009 1:41 AM CST How Do You Relate To God?
amelie13
amelie13amelie13Sydney, New South Wales Australia16 Threads 3 Polls 327 Posts
Interesting comments from all. I think like many people, my relationship with God is one where I only pray when I am in big trouble. :-)
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Oct 18, 2009 1:42 AM CST How Do You Relate To God?
RobertC2
RobertC2RobertC2Xaghra, Gozo, Gozo Malta91 Threads 8 Polls 8,344 Posts
amelie13: Interesting comments from all. I think like many people, my relationship with God is one where I only pray when I am in big trouble. :-)


Snap!.......... and then I try not to, because I then feel guilty for being a hypocrite! sigh
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Oct 18, 2009 2:21 AM CST How Do You Relate To God?
mikey12654
mikey12654mikey12654Vancouver, Washington USA2 Threads 127 Posts
RDM59: I agree, love and compassion is the desire. But is a belief in God or religion a necessity for achieving this ? Not in my personal experience ! Regarding NDE's, is it possible through a spiritual belief system that your brain is so conditioned with and entrusted to, that at the point of death ( if in awareness ) the stress of the brain reinforces your desire and creates an illusion.

Believers must have imagined and visualized their perceptions of god, heaven, afterlife etc over the course of time. Are these visions not just those memories being spewed forth from a dying brain ?
What is a dream ? ...

We hear many NDE reports of seeing a light at the end of a tunnel, or their spirit hovering over their own body. I can visualize this or dream about this. And I can recall these any time..... anyway just a thought on the matter.

Glad you enjoyed your visit to Scotland ...

with some sunshine, it's almost perfect...




Regarding Scotland, I was lucky enough to have sunshine lol, I stayed in Stirling and was fascinated about William Wallace. I also made it to Edinburgh....awesome!

About the validity of a genuine NDE in my opinion....first, it seems (not always) that your pre-conceived notion about your spiritual beliefs can have an effect on a person having a NDE. I've learned that from my research on the subject. I also know the many reasons that NDE's occur, anything from drugs, hypoxia to even saying that this is the brain's way of dealing with death. There are many opinions about it but the ones that can't be explained are the ones I did research on. I'm talking about the ones where the NDE'er came back with information that they could not have possibly known but were later proven to be factual. Some NDE's are amazing....including a blind man who was born that way having an NDE but could exactly describe events both inside and outside of the hospital at the time. The NDE's from children were also amazing.

Also, you don't have to be spiritual/religious to have an NDE at all, I've read many stories from atheists. I can honestly say that people's lives generally change after a NDE, they begin to see what's really important and not material gain.
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Oct 18, 2009 12:23 PM CST How Do You Relate To God?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
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mikey12654: Also, you don't have to be spiritual/religious to have an NDE at all, I've read many stories from atheists. I can honestly say that people's lives generally change after a NDE, they begin to see what's really important and not material gain.



Your statement is relative to our article here. In the first paragraph, "At the turning point a critical event shakes the soul. Everyday life is interrupted, either by a crisis or by a sudden epiphany, or by both, in what is described as “the dark night of the soul.”

God knows which method we will respond to. All do not respond to things the same way. Some get in trouble and go to prison, where they finally realize it's time for change, examine themselves and turn to Him. For others, major crisis creates the turning point, and some just won't get it until they have a NDE.

All of our lives, God wants us to share our lives with Him, so He can fill us with His genuine LOVE, so He can help us. We are born with a selfish desire to be in control and do it our way.
It's usually when we've gotten ourselves into a BIG MESS, through our own efforts and choices, that we come to realize that it just does not work. We call out for help, and God comes to the rescue with open arms. He comforts us and gently puts us back together. IFWe ask Him to and If we allow Him to. He is never forceful, for He is LOVE and Love never demands it's own way.

From 1Corinthians:
1Co 13:1 If I make use of the tongues of men and of angels, and have not love, I am like sounding brass, or a loud-tongued bell.
1Co 13:2 And if I have a prophet's power, and have knowledge of all secret things; and if I have all faith, by which mountains may be moved from their place, but have not love, I am nothing.
1Co 13:3 And if I give all my goods to the poor, and if I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it is of no profit to me.
1Co 13:4 Love is never tired of waiting (patient); love is kind; love has no envy; love has no high opinion of itself, love has no pride;
1Co 13:5 Love's ways are ever fair, it takes no thought for itself;(is not selfish) it is not quickly made angry, it takes no account of evil (keeps no record of wrongs);
1Co 13:6 It takes no pleasure in wrongdoing (notice it does NOT say that it never does wrong), but has joy in what is true;
1Co 13:7 Love has the power of undergoing all things, having faith in all things, hoping in all things.


God fills us with His Love, which enables us to unconditionally Love others, gives us strength to get thru our circumstances, encourages us to better ourselves. Helps us to see things differently. He renews our mind (we get rid of our stinkin thinkin).

LOVE HAPPENS!!!

It's Healthy!!!thumbs up angel
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Oct 18, 2009 12:28 PM CST How Do You Relate To God?
RobertC2
RobertC2RobertC2Xaghra, Gozo, Gozo Malta91 Threads 8 Polls 8,344 Posts
My last ex wife is being baptised again today to reaffirm her commitment to God.

I don't share her faith, but I wish her well and hope she doesn't catch a cold as no heating and she says she's going to have a 'cold dunk'.

I really thought our marriage would be forever as three parties involved - her, myself and God........ but I guess I was wrong! sigh

Anyway - I'd not have met all the lovely people in CS online, face to face and in other positions of personal interest if we were still together......... just sometimes I feel a little sad until I smile and think how lucky I am! dancing
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Oct 18, 2009 11:58 PM CST How Do You Relate To God?
anonymous1
anonymous1anonymous1Hawaii, USA10 Threads 1 Polls 1,649 Posts
RobertC2: My last ex wife is being baptised again today to reaffirm her commitment to God.

I don't share her faith, but I wish her well and hope she doesn't catch a cold as no heating and she says she's going to have a 'cold dunk'.

I really thought our marriage would be forever as three parties involved - her, myself and God........ but I guess I was wrong!

Anyway - I'd not have met all the lovely people in CS online, face to face and in other positions of personal interest if we were still together......... just sometimes I feel a little sad until I smile and think how lucky I am!






I'm sorry to hear that.

I wish there was something cool to say, that would take away the pain.

I'm glad you found the strength to take it so well.
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