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Oct 29, 2009 9:38 AM CST Human~Unity!
AmoroArboles
AmoroArbolesAmoroArbolesTacoma Area, Washington USA16 Threads 353 Posts
Will this simple concept remain the subject of Science Fiction?

That idea being; once our race-{humans} discover that we are not the only thinking-capable race in the universe, we decide to treat each other as we would want ourselves treated-{read: Better}.

The film, Independence Day, illustrates the idea well-{humans unite to fight the exterminating alien invaders}.

The powerful ET's living deep in our oceans in the film, The Abyss, {especially the extended version where the aliens send a message using huge tidal waves}.

If the portion of our human-race that earns less than say, 50k-USD per year were to form a PAC-[political action committee]; the strength of that PAC's voice will be impossible to ignore.

Ideas? Input? handshake yay thumbs up
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Oct 29, 2009 9:53 AM CST Human~Unity!
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
How many manifestations and riots and million-man march do you need to come to the conclusion that whatever "we" decide to do, the agenda will keep unfolding like a rehearsed play out of Dante?

What you're talking about is good in theory but it's been tried over and over and over... People had to chop off the heads of kings and queens to get a voice in affairs of state just a few hundred years ago and they were just replaced by the worse kind of puppets: Presidents and Prime ministers.

It's late in the game, all bases are full and we're out of replacements...
Political Action Committee? Sounds like a terrorist organization to me laugh
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Oct 29, 2009 10:07 AM CST Human~Unity!
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
There are a lot of people moving towards the goal of human unity, including religious groups like the Baha'i and Universal Unitarians. One planet, one people, one race...the human race. We all need to make this happen and start working together as a global village to save this planet we share, or we won't be here any more. Mother Earth will shake us off like fleas to restore Her balance if She must, and we will be a failed experiment.
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Oct 29, 2009 10:10 AM CST Human~Unity!
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Grandepensees: How many manifestations and riots and million-man march do you need to come to the conclusion that whatever "we" decide to do, the agenda will keep unfolding like a rehearsed play out of Dante?

What you're talking about is good in theory but it's been tried over and over and over... People had to chop off the heads of kings and queens to get a voice in affairs of state just a few hundred years ago and they were just replaced by the worse kind of puppets: Presidents and Prime ministers.

It's late in the game, all bases are full and we're out of replacements...
Political Action Committee? Sounds like a terrorist organization to me
And yet, we need to do something, GP...if nothing changes, then we don't progress.

"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice." ~Rush
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Oct 29, 2009 10:10 AM CST Human~Unity!
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
druidess6308: There are a lot of people moving towards the goal of human unity, including religious groups like the Baha'i and Universal Unitarians. One planet, one people, one race...the human race. We all need to make this happen and start working together as a global village to save this planet we share, or we won't be here any more. Mother Earth will shake us off like fleas to restore Her balance if She must, and we will be a failed experiment.


Yes, I agree... Only we won't be a failed experiment, we are a failed experiment and we're just coping the best we candunno
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Oct 29, 2009 10:19 AM CST Human~Unity!
Lee464
Lee464Lee464Surin, Northeastern Thailand Thailand4 Threads 1 Polls 397 Posts
There will always be hope for us as unity consciousness or awareness can happen in an instant.

all I know is that even as a young child I felt an awe inspiring feeling every time large groups of people gathered for some reason.
especially at new years celebrations where the tv would show countries around the world counting down to midnight(corrected time) in unison.

The thought of all people becoming aware of our unity leaves me weak with awe and it's worth holding onto hope for it to happen.

I get a sense of my connectedness to the universe every so often and it's in those moments that life makes complete sense and love abounds...to imagine it for all humanity is just soo powerful and I wish for it everyday.
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Oct 29, 2009 10:19 AM CST Human~Unity!
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
druidess6308: And yet, we need to do something, GP...if nothing changes, then we don't progress.

"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice." ~Rush


Again, I agreewine

I think the best we can do is change people's attitudes, hearts and minds to a higher level of thinking, away from the old and constraining stereotypes of traditional roles and the way we see ourselves.
I don't think that an 'organization' or 'party' or anything like that will help, it has to be one-on-one work, touching every single person on a closer level and bring everyone to certain realizations that will be seen with hesitancy, distrust and sometimes fear.
We have to move society's mental habits away from trigger-words like 'cult' and 'evil' and 'new age' and shine light on age-old truths and wisdom not easily grasped by a population tat has for too long clung to childish ideas and comfortable rhetoric.
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Oct 29, 2009 10:21 AM CST Human~Unity!
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Grandepensees: Yes, I agree... Only we won't be a failed experiment, we are a failed experiment and we're just coping the best we can
We're not a failed experiment yet, GP.

We need to look to the wisdom of the Native Americans and other indigenous peoples, and learn to live together in harmony with each other and the land, rather than to operate from greed, ego, hatred, and lack of tolerance.

“Humanity cannot depend on evolution for its enlightenment. We just don’t have the time.” ~Brad Silberberg
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Oct 29, 2009 10:26 AM CST Human~Unity!
AmoroArboles
AmoroArbolesAmoroArbolesTacoma Area, Washington USA16 Threads 353 Posts
Lee464: There will always be hope for us as unity consciousness or awareness can happen in an instant.

all I know is that even as a young child I felt an awe inspiring feeling every time large groups of people gathered for some reason.
especially at new years celebrations where the tv would show countries around the world counting down to midnight(corrected time) in unison.

The thought of all people becoming aware of our unity leaves me weak with awe and it's worth holding onto hope for it to happen.

I get a sense of my connectedness to the universe every so often and it's in those moments that life makes complete sense and love abounds...to imagine it for all humanity is just soo powerful and I wish for it everyday.


Great! Thank you!

Our minds are so very powerful. We are all connected.

We CAN do it! handshake
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Oct 29, 2009 10:28 AM CST Human~Unity!
Lee464
Lee464Lee464Surin, Northeastern Thailand Thailand4 Threads 1 Polls 397 Posts
druidess6308: And yet, we need to do something, GP...if nothing changes, then we don't progress.

"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice." ~Rush


This what gives me pause...it is my understanding that nothing outside of oneself can "trigger" it..in that I mean there is nothing you can do or say to me that will make me understand and the same is true in reverse.

All I can do is live by example and hope that others become aware...in my opinion going out to try and change people is never going to work.

We as individuals can never hope to rid the world of division...at best we can only stop ourselves from contributing to it. The rest is up to others to come to the understanding themselves.
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Oct 29, 2009 10:29 AM CST Human~Unity!
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Lee464: There will always be hope for us as unity consciousness or awareness can happen in an instant.

all I know is that even as a young child I felt an awe inspiring feeling every time large groups of people gathered for some reason.
especially at new years celebrations where the tv would show countries around the world counting down to midnight(corrected time) in unison.

The thought of all people becoming aware of our unity leaves me weak with awe and it's worth holding onto hope for it to happen.

I get a sense of my connectedness to the universe every so often and it's in those moments that life makes complete sense and love abounds...to imagine it for all humanity is just soo powerful and I wish for it everyday.


Lee, I so agree with you on this. I feel that connectedness quite a bit, especially when I'm in the Medicine Wheel, or in the woods, or during group meditations where we reach out to it to heal us all...not just to nature, but to all who walk the Earth. To imagine everyone feeling that, and the love that comes with that connection, is my hope...and the only hope we have to save humanity.

Did anyone else here join in Hands Around the World? That was a powerful experience of unity, and we need to repeat it. wine
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Oct 29, 2009 10:33 AM CST Human~Unity!
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
druidess6308: We're not a failed experiment yet, GP.

We need to look to the wisdom of the Native Americans and other indigenous peoples, and learn to live together in harmony with each other and the land, rather than to operate from greed, ego, hatred, and lack of tolerance.

“Humanity cannot depend on evolution for its enlightenment. We just don’t have the time.” ~Brad Silberberg


Yep, and it takes time to change people's minds to a higher harmony. Organized religions have made quite a mess amongst us for hundred and thousands of years, we can't expect improvement in a few hundred years, even though time is short.
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Oct 29, 2009 10:34 AM CST Human~Unity!
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Grandepensees: Again, I agree

I think the best we can do is change people's attitudes, hearts and minds to a higher level of thinking, away from the old and constraining stereotypes of traditional roles and the way we see ourselves.
I don't think that an 'organization' or 'party' or anything like that will help, it has to be one-on-one work, touching every single person on a closer level and bring everyone to certain realizations that will be seen with hesitancy, distrust and sometimes fear.
We have to move society's mental habits away from trigger-words like 'cult' and 'evil' and 'new age' and shine light on age-old truths and wisdom not easily grasped by a population that has for too long clung to childish ideas and comfortable rhetoric.


We can't change anyone's mind, it has to come from within each of us, and this is supposed to be what's happening leading up to December 11, 2012...an evolution in consciousness of the entire human race, or at least the survivors. This is in many prophesies, not just the Mayan one, and I believe it's the message, though sadly twisted, of the Rapture as well. Those who can't make the shift in consciousness are believed to be dying off now in the rise of cancer, heart disease, etc...the rest of us who remain will make the leap in evolution. Time will tell if this is correct or not, and whether or not we can do it. wine
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Oct 29, 2009 10:36 AM CST Human~Unity!
AmoroArboles
AmoroArbolesAmoroArbolesTacoma Area, Washington USA16 Threads 353 Posts
druidess6308: And yet, we need to do something, GP...if nothing changes, then we don't progress.

"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice." ~Rush


I feel strongly that our human civilization, as it is now,
is unsustainable.

If we continue as normal, a large correction WILL take place, balance will be restored, by bloody revolution or some other exterminating event, I believe that it is inevitable and not far away.

I'm trying to find a better way...

We CAN do it, together. handshake
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Oct 29, 2009 10:41 AM CST Human~Unity!
Lee464
Lee464Lee464Surin, Northeastern Thailand Thailand4 Threads 1 Polls 397 Posts
Grandepensees: Yep, and it takes time to change people's minds to a higher harmony. Organized religions have made quite a mess amongst us for hundred and thousands of years, we can't expect improvement in a few hundred years, even though time is short.


Sorry to be blunt but I take this as a very serious subject...after all it's humanity that is at stake..

You are thinking along the same lines as the organized religions you put down...I totally agree with your statement about organized religions by the way...but with statements like "it takes time to change people's minds" you are following in their footsteps...

it is my hope that people don't get caught up in this sort of dialogue as it changes nothing but the window dressing. We have to be careful and mindful of past mistakes and be sure to go about it in a completely new way.

The world has been plagued by the same issues for millenia and up until now nothing has changed but the sophistication of the mess we create. The answer does not lie in thought...but in action becoming aware and being aware are actions.
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Oct 29, 2009 10:42 AM CST Human~Unity!
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
druidess6308: We can't change anyone's mind, it has to come from within each of us, and this is supposed to be what's happening leading up to December 11, 2012...an evolution in consciousness of the entire human race, or at least the survivors. This is in many prophesies, not just the Mayan one, and I believe it's the message, though sadly twisted, of the Rapture as well. Those who can't make the shift in consciousness are believed to be dying off now in the rise of cancer, heart disease, etc...the rest of us who remain will make the leap in evolution. Time will tell if this is correct or not, and whether or not we can do it.


2012... I don't know if I believe that date or if I wish for more time. I do know that, yes, change can and does happen within someone's mind without outside influence ( or someone changing someone's mind ).
I don't know about the dieing off of people in the form of cancer and viruses... Prophecies tend to surprise even those who decipher them and the 'rapture' only has a couple of sentences in support of the theory...
All I know is that we ( you know who 'we' is ) are going to be just fine and whenever 'IT' happens, it will surely be the biggest trip of our liveslaugh
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Oct 29, 2009 10:45 AM CST Human~Unity!
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
Lee464: Sorry to be blunt but I take this as a very serious subject...after all it's humanity that is at stake..

You are thinking along the same lines as the organized religions you put down...I totally agree with your statement about organized religions by the way...but with statements like "it takes time to change people's minds" you are following in their footsteps...

it is my hope that people don't get caught up in this sort of dialogue as it changes nothing but the window dressing. We have to be careful and mindful of past mistakes and be sure to go about it in a completely new way.

The world has been plagued by the same issues for millenia and up until now nothing has changed but the sophistication of the mess we create. The answer does not lie in thought...but in action becoming aware and being aware are actions.


Yes, forgive my lack of clarity and loquacity, I have't slept in 24 hours, gimme a break laugh

But I do agree with you, well said.thumbs up
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Oct 29, 2009 10:46 AM CST Human~Unity!
Lee464
Lee464Lee464Surin, Northeastern Thailand Thailand4 Threads 1 Polls 397 Posts
Grandepensees: Yes, forgive my lack of clarity and loquacity, I have't slept in 24 hours, gimme a break

But I do agree with you, well said.


Break givin...cheers
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Oct 29, 2009 10:49 AM CST Human~Unity!
Grandepensees
GrandepenseesGrandepenseesVerviers, Liege Belgium45 Threads 1 Polls 3,691 Posts
Lee464: Break givin...


Break takencheers
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Oct 29, 2009 10:54 AM CST Human~Unity!
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Grandepensees: 2012... I don't know if I believe that date or if I wish for more time. I do know that, yes, change can and does happen within someone's mind without outside influence ( or someone changing someone's mind ).
I don't know about the dieing off of people in the form of cancer and viruses... Prophecies tend to surprise even those who decipher them and the 'rapture' only has a couple of sentences in support of the theory...
All I know is that we ( you know who 'we' is ) are going to be just fine and whenever 'IT' happens, it will surely be the biggest trip of our lives


And I'm looking forward to it. After all, we're not human beings on a spiritual journey, but rather spiritual beings on a human journey. Spirit is energy, and it will survive all that happens, so regardless, it's going to be an interesting journey. wine

Now go get some sleep, my friend. Major insomnia attack? (I hope that's all it is, and nothing more serious.) hug
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