Can ye help me please :) (65)

Mar 15, 2010 2:26 PM CST Can ye help me please :)
foxyhobnobo
foxyhobnobofoxyhobnoboCork, Ireland39 Threads 1 Polls 1,330 Posts
Im doing a project on Depression for social studies and bascially my question is

whos for or against anti depressants im against them completely so as there a quick for.. im for counselling dont like pills atall..


just wondering is there anyone in favour of them??

im linking alcoholism is too as it leads to depression and find it weird for those who are put on anti depressants for dealing with depression its like leading into another addiction..

have a bit started and was hoping to get yer opinion thanks handshake

thanks hug
Mar 15, 2010 2:28 PM CST Can ye help me please :)
foxyhobnobo: Im doing a project on Depression for social studies and bascially my question is

whos for or against anti depressants im against them completely so as there a quick for.. im for counselling dont like pills atall..just wondering is there anyone in favour of them??

im linking alcoholism is too as it leads to depression and find it weird for those who are put on anti depressants for dealing with depression its like leading into another addiction..

have a bit started and was hoping to get yer opinion thanks

thanks
i be lost without mine,,,,and i dont drink that much,,,,,,,,,,,,,,only when i get out




sorry not much help,,,best of luck gaffa on ur researchteddybear teddybear teddybear teddybear teddybear teddybear
Mar 15, 2010 2:29 PM CST Can ye help me please :)
Minieme
MiniemeMiniemeDublin, Ireland35 Threads 6 Polls 1,738 Posts
foxyhobnobo: Im doing a project on Depression for social studies and bascially my question is

whos for or against anti depressants im against them completely so as there a quick for.. im for counselling dont like pills atall..just wondering is there anyone in favour of them??

im linking alcoholism is too as it leads to depression and find it weird for those who are put on anti depressants for dealing with depression its like leading into another addiction..

have a bit started and was hoping to get yer opinion thanks

thanks


Its an interesting topic alright FHN!

Whilst I agree with them in some cases... I think they are perscribed too willy nilly!! I mean someone who is just a bit down and goes to a doc WHAM BAM get them bad boys into ya when frankly all they need to do is talk about whats making them down!

JMO!

wave
Mar 15, 2010 2:33 PM CST Can ye help me please :)
foxyhobnobo
foxyhobnobofoxyhobnoboCork, Ireland39 Threads 1 Polls 1,330 Posts
ella1976: i be lost without mine,,,,and i dont drink that much,,,,,,,,,,,,,,only when i get out

sorry not much help,,,best of luck gaffa on ur research


oh sorry hun.. never knew.. thanks for replying anyway teddybear hug
Mar 15, 2010 2:34 PM CST Can ye help me please :)
foxyhobnobo
foxyhobnobofoxyhobnoboCork, Ireland39 Threads 1 Polls 1,330 Posts
Minieme: Its an interesting topic alright FHN!

Whilst I agree with them in some cases... I think they are perscribed too willy nilly!! I mean someone who is just a bit down and goes to a doc WHAM BAM get them bad boys into ya when frankly all they need to do is talk about whats making them down!

JMO!


I agree hun sure ive been on the recieving end of that which is why im so interested in it.. handshake
Mar 15, 2010 2:35 PM CST Can ye help me please :)
foxyhobnobo: oh sorry hun.. never knew.. thanks for replying anyway
ah its ok ,been looking 4 the right smarty 4 about14 years now,,,,just one i take
Mar 15, 2010 2:37 PM CST Can ye help me please :)
Minieme
MiniemeMiniemeDublin, Ireland35 Threads 6 Polls 1,738 Posts
Yeah not good in my eyes!
foxyhobnobo: I agree hun sure ive been on the recieving end of that which is why im so interested in it..
Mar 15, 2010 2:38 PM CST Can ye help me please :)
foxyhobnobo
foxyhobnobofoxyhobnoboCork, Ireland39 Threads 1 Polls 1,330 Posts
ella1976: ah its ok ,been looking 4 the right smarty 4 about14 years now,,,,just one i take


ive been on 5mg and 10mg i felt like an experiment 2 um.. that was back three years ago hated been on them.. i felt talking was the best way 2 help..

i dont thinkthey will find the right dosage for everyone but i hope they help u the way u want them 2 hun hug
Mar 15, 2010 2:40 PM CST Can ye help me please :)
foxyhobnobo: ive been on 5mg and 10mg i felt like an experiment 2 um.. that was back three years ago hated been on them.. i felt talking was the best way 2 help..

i dont thinkthey will find the right dosage for everyone but i hope they help u the way u want them 2 hun
so good so far,im on 20mg,laugh laugh laugh but im not madblues
Mar 15, 2010 2:43 PM CST Can ye help me please :)
foxyhobnobo
foxyhobnobofoxyhobnoboCork, Ireland39 Threads 1 Polls 1,330 Posts
ella1976: so good so far,im on 20mg, but im not mad


your mad in a good way hun wink no doubt about that yay
Mar 15, 2010 2:46 PM CST Can ye help me please :)
foxyhobnobo: your mad in a good way hun no doubt about that
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing say that again,,,,could,nt hold my head up,,,crying all the time,,seens i was 20,,,,dont know where it come from,or why,,,,,,,,but all behind me now,,,,,i hope
Mar 15, 2010 2:47 PM CST Can ye help me please :)
ella1976: say that again,,,,could,nt hold my head up,,,crying all the time,,seens i was 20,,,,dont know where it come from,or why,,,,,,,,but all behind me now,,,,,i hope
sincedoh
Mar 15, 2010 2:49 PM CST Can ye help me please :)
foxyhobnobo
foxyhobnobofoxyhobnoboCork, Ireland39 Threads 1 Polls 1,330 Posts
ella1976: say that again,,,,could,nt hold my head up,,,crying all the time,,seens i was 20,,,,dont know where it come from,or why,,,,,,,,but all behind me now,,,,,i hope


happens 2 us all hun.. hormones i blame rolling on the floor laughing just outbursts of crying but at least its in the past now and crying is a good thing.. getting the emotion out handshake
Mar 15, 2010 2:57 PM CST Can ye help me please :)
foxyhobnobo: happens 2 us all hun.. hormones i blame just outbursts of crying but at least its in the past now and crying is a good thing.. getting the emotion out
all good,,,,,,feel like a fool now fox,,,,just putting my life story on cs,,,,,,,,but i said it b4,,,,i,m not ashamed hug hug hug hug hug happens 2 the best of us,,,,,,,,,,,,when we going to dubcheering cheering
Mar 15, 2010 2:58 PM CST Can ye help me please :)
shiv76
shiv76shiv76ireland, Tipperary Ireland3 Threads 30 Posts
hi
i suffer with depression and only for the tabs and councilling i would not be here ,feel free to mail me if u want any info ,dont want to chat bout it on this
Mar 15, 2010 3:00 PM CST Can ye help me please :)
Kalimera
KalimeraKalimeraDublin, Ireland6 Threads 1,708 Posts
foxyhobnobo: Im doing a project on Depression for social studies and bascially my question is

whos for or against anti depressants im against them completely so as there a quick for.. im for counselling dont like pills atall..just wondering is there anyone in favour of them??

im linking alcoholism is too as it leads to depression and find it weird for those who are put on anti depressants for dealing with depression its like leading into another addiction..

have a bit started and was hoping to get yer opinion thanks

thanks



What about in situations where it is a chemical imbalance that is causing the depression?
Mar 15, 2010 3:00 PM CST Can ye help me please :)
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
This is not an EITHER / OR scenario. It's quite common for antidepressants to be used in conjunction with counselling. If the depression is too full on, the tablets allow an element of control in the healing process.

You are quite right about alcohol though. It is a depressant. It depresses the central nervous system.

I think you may be mistaking anti depressants with valium or librium or the like. Todays antidepressants tend not to be addictive and patients are more closely monitored. We're way past the 60s and Mother's Little Helper.

Then there are different types of depression which I would probably suggest as your starting point such as reactive depression or manic depression (mania) which we now call bi polar.

It realy is too big a subject to make a straight forward call. I like many on here have had times on tablets and times in counselling. I think the problem is more common than we would like to think.wave
Mar 15, 2010 3:02 PM CST Can ye help me please :)
felinelady
felineladyfelineladyEnnis, Clare Ireland4 Threads 292 Posts
Well, that's an interesting subject for sure! thumbs up

Generally, I am rather against chemical anti-depressants. For cases of serious critical depressions though they might be useful.

Only once in my life was I perscribed some. It was 4 years ago when something really terrible happened and my life just crumbled. I tried to deal with it on my own at first, but the effect was so terrible that for months I could not sleep more than 2 or 3 hours a night. Still I had to go to work to make ends meet, and that took it's toll. My GP (who has been my GP for over 20 years and knows me very well) perscribed an anti depressant in liquid form, so I could adjust the dose to my needs. He instructed me to take only 4 drops 1 hour before going to bed (the leaflet stated a normal dose of 3 x 40 per day!). It helped me to finally sleep through a night and thereby helped me get my strength back. At the same time I was getting counseling therapy, which also helped me deal with everything. After 3 months I could do without the drops, and haven't taken them since.

I think a perscription of such drugs has to be done very carefully. And a doctor perscribing them should be well aware of his patience's mental condition.

For cases of "burn out" or "just down" I would always prefer natural remedies such as St John's wort. I have taken that myself sometimes in the past, and always thought it did the job nicely.

You say you are against them completely, but I beg to differ. Sometimes, as in my situation back then, there is just no other way, if one has to continue to function in the job and as a single mother. However, I am all for not using them on a permanent basis. They can be a "crutch" for a short while, but shouldn't be abused as a "zimmer frame" indefinitely.

teddybear
Mar 15, 2010 3:03 PM CST Can ye help me please :)
Taureanmale
TaureanmaleTaureanmaleRoscommon, Ireland86 Threads 5 Polls 1,672 Posts
Depends on the patient or if the professionals do a proper assessment or if there are enough qualified people to deal with the workload. The general feeling is that meds are too widely prescribed as a first resort. Not enough attention given to other means. Still a stigma attached to depression, pill may be used as a quick fix, and not a good idea to go looking for help outside office hours they reckon. You ll prob end up depressed when you find out how bad services are!!. Just going on stuff i ve heard.
Mar 15, 2010 3:04 PM CST Can ye help me please :)
skinnyminnypink
skinnyminnypinkskinnyminnypinkKilkenny, Ireland218 Threads 6,300 Posts
Godsgift: This is not an EITHER / OR scenario. It's quite common for antidepressants to be used in conjunction with counselling. If the depression is too full on, the tablets allow an element of control in the healing process.

You are quite right about alcohol though. It is a depressant. It depresses the central nervous system.

I think you may be mistaking anti depressants with valium or librium or the like. Todays antidepressants tend not to be addictive and patients are more closely monitored. We're way past the 60s and Mother's Little Helper.

Then there are different types of depression which I would probably suggest as your starting point such as reactive depression or manic depression (mania) which we now call bi polar.

It realy is too big a subject to make a straight forward call. I like many on here have had times on tablets and times in counselling. I think the problem is more common than we would like to think.




Good post, K .... here's your sister, been there, done that and worn the t-shirt ...teddybear
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