Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud? (166)

Jul 18, 2010 2:05 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
theres no point in arguing with palefaces
thats what they
take the piss outa them instaed i say
or just ignore them
he wants you to get annoyed
Jul 18, 2010 2:06 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
PASSION8MAN
PASSION8MANPASSION8MANLIMERICK, Limerick Ireland90 Threads 3 Polls 2,056 Posts
L1977C: It is mine i lost my home the lot all because he wouldnt pay up maintenance and before anyone says he has to live etc he can well afford to pay it!!
and to be told by the courts here not to bother going after him as it wil take 3 yrs is just mad.


And I thought I had problems jeez sorry to hear that L teddybear
Jul 18, 2010 2:08 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
skinnyminnypink
skinnyminnypinkskinnyminnypinkKilkenny, Ireland218 Threads 6,300 Posts
blipper2000: whats lc ?
a bleedin carpenter now


Hey Blippidy ... this is one that's going to strike a chord with a lot of peeps .. doesn't sound like LC needs much assistance, say she's an extremely capable young lady .. do have sympathy for her situation though wave and all others in the same situation as she finds herself ...

hug
Jul 18, 2010 2:12 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
L1977C
L1977CL1977Cdublin, Dublin Ireland8 Threads 3,219 Posts
blipper2000: theres no point in arguing with palefaces
thats what they
take the piss outa them instaed i say
or just ignore them
he wants you to get annoyed


I think its time someone pointed out the fact while he has his child 2 days and one evening a week who has the son the rest of the time????
Jul 18, 2010 2:15 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
L1977C: I think its time someone pointed out the fact while he has his child 2 days and one evening a week who has the son the rest of the time????


When my son's mom goes off to work she sometimes get different relatives of her's to go off and work, always some people who are single parents as well and she occasionally minds the kids of a couple of friends of her who are single parents as well. She does beleive in old fashioned self reliance and getting yourself up by the bootstraps just like I do as well, its a shame a lot more Irish people didn't have the same attitude, instead the attitude of a lot of permanently poor people is to always seek assistance off the state and take no responsibilities in return.
Jul 18, 2010 2:18 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
PASSION8MAN
PASSION8MANPASSION8MANLIMERICK, Limerick Ireland90 Threads 3 Polls 2,056 Posts
Ken35: its a shame a lot more Irish people didn't have the same attitude, instead the attitude of a lot of permanently poor people is to always seek assistance off the state and take no responsibilities in return.


Were in a recession you moron some people are really
hard working but because of the job losses find themselves
on the dole by no choice of their own doh
Jul 18, 2010 2:19 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
L1977C
L1977CL1977Cdublin, Dublin Ireland8 Threads 3,219 Posts
Ken35: When my son's mom goes off to work she sometimes get different relatives of her's to go off and work, always some people who are single parents as well and she occasionally minds the kids of a couple of friends of her who are single parents as well. She does beleive in old fashioned self reliance and getting yourself up by the bootstraps just like I do as well, its a shame a lot more Irish people didn't have the same attitude, instead the attitude of a lot of permanently poor people is to always seek assistance off the state and take no responsibilities in return.


not everyone has relatives to fall back on for childcare I wonder if that was your exes case would she be able to afford for professional childcare?And would you then put her in the lazy single mother bracket?I think its unfair of you to make general statements about single mothers and also you forget their are dads out there on their own who have their kids 24/7
Jul 18, 2010 2:21 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
PASSION8MAN: Were in a recession you moron some people are really
hard working but because of the job losses find themselves
on the dole by no choice of their own


I'm referring to people who have never worked not people who have lost their job since the rcession started in late 2007, obvioulsy everyone who has lost their job since late 2007 would prefer to be working, I still believe that there is a sad victimhood mentality amongst a lot of Irish people though.
Jul 18, 2010 2:24 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
skinnyminnypink
skinnyminnypinkskinnyminnypinkKilkenny, Ireland218 Threads 6,300 Posts
Ken35: I'm referring to people who have never worked not people who have lost their job since the rcession started in late 2007, obvioulsy everyone who has lost their job since late 2007 would prefer to be working, I still believe that there is a sad victimhood mentality amongst a lot of Irish people though.


Sounds to me like you have something on your mind, other than the issues covered in your posts on here?? JMO Not sure what it could be??? but this topic does seem to irritate you rather a lot??

confused
Jul 18, 2010 2:24 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
L1977C
L1977CL1977Cdublin, Dublin Ireland8 Threads 3,219 Posts
Ken35: I'm referring to people who have never worked not people who have lost their job since the rcession started in late 2007, obvioulsy everyone who has lost their job since late 2007 would prefer to be working, I still believe that there is a sad victimhood mentality amongst a lot of Irish people though.

people who have never worked should be encouraged to go out and retrain maybe even have to enroll on a course etc to qualify for the dole.Thers is loads of ce schemes out there with fas but the down fall is you do not always come away from there with full qualifications which again leaves people in a swings and roundabouts situation I myself would like many quite happily clean loos etc whatever it takes to put food on the table and pay the bills.But even now those jobs arent on offer
Jul 18, 2010 2:24 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
PASSION8MAN
PASSION8MANPASSION8MANLIMERICK, Limerick Ireland90 Threads 3 Polls 2,056 Posts
Ken35: I still believe that there is a sad victimhood mentality amongst a lot of Irish people though.


I dont think there is I see a lot of people doing courses
and bettering themselves and educating themselves
for better times when the recession dies down .
Jul 18, 2010 2:27 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
L1977C: not everyone has relatives to fall back on for childcare I wonder if that was your exes case would she be able to afford for professional childcare?And would you then put her in the lazy single mother bracket?I think its unfair of you to make general statements about single mothers and also you forget their are dads out there on their own who have their kids 24/7


Agreed not everyone has relatives but a lot of self reliance can go a long way to overcoming these difficulties, also agree that there are dads who mind their kids 24/7, I'm sure there are plenty on this site. Some single parents have gone as far as to advertise in local papers saying that they are willing to chilminding services on a rotational basis, to me thats a agreat example of self reliance which needs to be encourages in this country but no this is Ireland and a significant minority of people always expect the state to intervene. Nothing wrong with a bit of old fashioned American style self reliance been implemented in this country.
Jul 18, 2010 2:28 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
BentLid
BentLidBentLidDublin, Ireland6 Threads 1 Polls 153 Posts
Ken35: I'm referring to people who have never worked not people who have lost their job since the rcession started in late 2007, obvioulsy everyone who has lost their job since late 2007 would prefer to be working, I still believe that there is a sad victimhood mentality amongst a lot of Irish people though.


The pity me types who whinge and moan about not having a job, really they are delighted to be on the dole and doing nothing, sure they can sleep in until midday and hang around all day doing nothing suits them down to the ground
Jul 18, 2010 2:28 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
PASSION8MAN: I dont think there is I see a lot of people doing courses
and bettering themselves and educating themselves
for better times when the recession dies down .


Agreed I have a few friends who have gone back to college or to retrain, I firmly belive that life is for the flexible and not the infelxible who are stuck in their ways.
Jul 18, 2010 2:30 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
MRMAGIC52
MRMAGIC52MRMAGIC52kilkenny, Kilkenny Ireland6 Threads 1 Polls 69 Posts
PASSION8MAN: I dont think there is I see a lot of people doing courses
and bettering themselves and educating themselves
for better times when the recession dies down .


Well i hope so i made unemployed lost my job there about 2 months im a single dad now doing a course so i can get back into work force.but i must admit some people do take the social welfare system for granted.

i know a guy in our local town who never works and he can manage to drink 24/7 and gamble christ i wonder how he does that on 196 a week the whole town are giving out about him at the mo.
Jul 18, 2010 2:31 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
L1977C
L1977CL1977Cdublin, Dublin Ireland8 Threads 3,219 Posts
BentLid: The pity me types who whinge and moan about not having a job, really they are delighted to be on the dole and doing nothing, sure they can sleep in until midday and hang around all day doing nothing suits them down to the ground


God forbid you find yourself on the dole not ALL people sleep in till all hours most are up checking the job sites for the lastest adds
Jul 18, 2010 2:33 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
PASSION8MAN
PASSION8MANPASSION8MANLIMERICK, Limerick Ireland90 Threads 3 Polls 2,056 Posts
MRMAGIC52:

i know a guy in our local town who never works and he can manage to drink 24/7 and gamble christ i wonder how he does that on 196 a week the whole town are giving out about him at the mo.


Jeez are you from my town I think I know that guy laugh
Jul 18, 2010 2:33 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
MRMAGIC52: Well i hope so i made unemployed lost my job there about 2 months im a single dad now doing a course so i can get back into work force.but i must admit some people do take the social welfare system for granted.

i know a guy in our local town who never works and he can manage to drink 24/7 and gamble christ i wonder how he does that on 196 a week the whole town are giving out about him at the mo.


The country needs more people like yourself with such a healthy attitude to life and you aare prepared to be flexible and learn new skills, that waster you mentioned who has never worked should have his welfare frozen, he probably gets his rent paid for by the state if he's in private accomadtion.
Jul 18, 2010 2:34 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
BentLid
BentLidBentLidDublin, Ireland6 Threads 1 Polls 153 Posts
L1977C: God forbid you find yourself on the dole not ALL people sleep in till all hours most are up checking the job sites for the lastest adds


I`ll never end up on the dole, I`m resourceful and will find paid employment anywhere, I`ll turn my hand to anything, I would scrub dirty toilets if I was getting paid for it, unlike some irish I wouldnt be too proud to take a menial job like that
Jul 18, 2010 2:36 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
L1977C: God forbid you find yourself on the dole not ALL people sleep in till all hours most are up checking the job sites for the lastest adds


I fully agree, my unemployed friends are on the net for hours lokking for jobs, applying for jobs, ringing up companies and going into offices or places of businesses looking for work, one of my friends was laid off as an accountant last year and is now working in Tescos stacking shelves.
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