Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud? (166)

Jul 18, 2010 2:37 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
L1977C
L1977CL1977Cdublin, Dublin Ireland8 Threads 3,219 Posts
BentLid: I`ll never end up on the dole, I`m resourceful and will find paid employment anywhere, I`ll turn my hand to anything, I would scrub dirty toilets if I was getting paid for it, unlike some irish I wouldnt be too proud to take a menial job like that

thats half the problem those jobs are hard to come by...
and never say never sometimes your life can flip to the opposite in days
Jul 18, 2010 2:39 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
BentLid: I`ll never end up on the dole, I`m resourceful and will find paid employment anywhere, I`ll turn my hand to anything, I would scrub dirty toilets if I was getting paid for it, unlike some irish I wouldnt be too proud to take a menial job like that


One of the worst things about the celtic tiger was the fact that a huge level of job snobbery existed amongst a lot of Irish people who were too stuck up their arses anout working in certain jobs, I'm glad to see that this snobbery is gradually been eroded, mind you it still exists amongst a significant minority who would refuse to work in Lidl or work in a fast food restaurant.
Jul 18, 2010 2:40 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
MRMAGIC52
MRMAGIC52MRMAGIC52kilkenny, Kilkenny Ireland6 Threads 1 Polls 69 Posts
Ken35: The country needs more people like yourself with such a healthy attitude to life and you aare prepared to be flexible and learn new skills, that waster you mentioned who has never worked should have his welfare frozen, he probably gets his rent paid for by the state if he's in private accomadtion.


well im getting my rent paid at the mo i had to fight for that with a Td because the wouldnt give it to me and i worked all my life and paid my stamps. but i do have to put half my money torward it and i pay maintence yet a traveler family down in wexford were getting a totally of 1400 euro a month on rent free allowance and they wrecked the place now that really pisses me off
Jul 18, 2010 2:43 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
L1977C
L1977CL1977Cdublin, Dublin Ireland8 Threads 3,219 Posts
MRMAGIC52: well im getting my rent paid at the mo i had to fight for that with a Td because the wouldnt give it to me and i worked all my life and paid my stamps. but i do have to put half my money torward it and i pay maintence yet a traveler family down in wexford were getting a totally of 1400 euro a month on rent free allowance and they wrecked the place now that really pisses me off


That statement just proves the point single mother stil have to pay rent even when they arent working
Jul 18, 2010 2:44 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
blipper2000
blipper2000blipper2000dublin, Dublin Ireland69 Threads 9 Polls 6,900 Posts
L1977C: I think its time someone pointed out the fact while he has his child 2 days and one evening a week who has the son the rest of the time????

he doesnt even have a child
hes winding you up
hes tryin to get a rise out of you
and if he does he thinbks hes won
dont give him the satisfaction
very few peeps these days think the way it/he/she does
did ya know that 1 in 10 single parents are male now?
dont mind me carpenter joke
im just takin the piss and ya know i just cant help meselfteddybear
Jul 18, 2010 2:44 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
MRMAGIC52: well im getting my rent paid at the mo i had to fight for that with a Td because the wouldnt give it to me and i worked all my life and paid my stamps. but i do have to put half my money torward it and i pay maintence yet a traveler family down in wexford were getting a totally of 1400 euro a month on rent free allowance and they wrecked the place now that really pisses me off


Fair play to you for fighting your corner and making sure you got your rent paid for, you really have to fight your corner in this world, €1400 a month in rent allowance in Co Wexford, how many kids did they have, I know the travellers like to breed kids like confetti at a weddinglaugh laugh
Jul 18, 2010 2:46 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
L1977C
L1977CL1977Cdublin, Dublin Ireland8 Threads 3,219 Posts
blipper2000: he doesnt even have a child
hes winding you up
hes tryin to get a rise out of you
and if he does he thinbks hes won
dont give him the satisfaction
very few peeps these days think the way it/he/she does
did ya know that 1 in 10 single parents are male now?
dont mind me carpenter joke
im just takin the piss and ya know i just cant help meself

me with a hammer and nails in my hand holy jesus your asking for troublelaugh
Jul 18, 2010 2:46 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
L1977C: That statement just proves the point single mother stil have to pay rent even when they arent working


I know some single parents who only have to pay €24 a week in rent. The rent allownace virtually covers the rent.
Jul 18, 2010 2:46 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
BentLid
BentLidBentLidDublin, Ireland6 Threads 1 Polls 153 Posts
L1977C: That statement just proves the point single mother stil have to pay rent even when they arent working


I know of a single mother who lives in a three bedroom house who gets rent allowance, she pays 30 euro a week and the rent allowance covers the rest, single mothers really have it hard rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Jul 18, 2010 2:47 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
BentLid
BentLidBentLidDublin, Ireland6 Threads 1 Polls 153 Posts
Ken35: I know some single parents who only have to pay €24 a week in rent. The rent allownace virtually covers the rent.


weird we roundabout said the same thing therelaugh
Jul 18, 2010 2:48 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
MRMAGIC52
MRMAGIC52MRMAGIC52kilkenny, Kilkenny Ireland6 Threads 1 Polls 69 Posts
Ken35: I know some single parents who only have to pay €24 a week in rent. The rent allownace virtually covers the rent.



heres the link to that report



but i dont agree in taking kids away from there parents that was a stupid statement to make and im sticking to my guns on that one.
Jul 18, 2010 2:48 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
L1977C
L1977CL1977Cdublin, Dublin Ireland8 Threads 3,219 Posts
Ken35: Fair play to you for fighting your corner and making sure you got your rent paid for, you really have to fight your corner in this world, €1400 a month in rent allowance in Co Wexford, how many kids did they have, I know the travellers like to breed kids like confetti at a wedding


he gets told fair play but if it was a single mother youd be saying shes screwing the system?doh
Jul 18, 2010 2:51 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
L1977C
L1977CL1977Cdublin, Dublin Ireland8 Threads 3,219 Posts
BentLid: weird we roundabout said the same thing there

two of a kinddunno
Jul 18, 2010 2:51 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
L1977C: he gets told fair play but if it was a single mother youd be saying shes screwing the system?


Not if she's worked all her life while bringing up a kid at the same time and then lost her job.
Jul 18, 2010 2:56 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
Alpha01
Alpha01Alpha01Wexford, Ireland24 Threads 2 Polls 2,497 Posts
Ken35: Not if she's worked all her life while bringing up a kid at the same time and then lost her job.

It's a good job you don't decide who gets allowances for this country. People have different circumstances. When a man leaves the wife and kids behind to fend for themselves, it's not like they can afford childcare to go out to this full-time job you speak of (if such things even exist a the moment). Relatives aren't always an option but if people like you were in power, either the kids would get taken off them or they'd get no money.
VERY compassionate!
Jul 18, 2010 2:59 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
L1977C
L1977CL1977Cdublin, Dublin Ireland8 Threads 3,219 Posts
BentLid: Yet she lives comfortably with her 2 children, kids are always well dressed and looked after and she still has money for cigarettes and clubbing at the weekend, If he income was that low she would be struggling but shes comfortable living off the tax payer

mayb she gets maintenance .I can say as a single mom i certainly wouldnt be out clubbing every weekend nor once a month think that case could be a one off but still gives you the balls to fire at every other single mother
Jul 18, 2010 3:01 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
BentLid: Yet she lives comfortably with her 2 children, kids are always well dressed and looked after and she still has money for cigarettes and clubbing at the weekend, If he income was that low she would be struggling but shes comfortable living off the tax payer


The truth hurts for some people, I wonder she she have a huge TV and would probably spend like crazy for her kids holy communion or confirmation.
Jul 18, 2010 3:04 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
Ken35
Ken35Ken35Dublin, Ireland14 Threads 301 Posts
Alpha01: It's a good job you don't decide who gets allowances for this country. People have different circumstances. When a man leaves the wife and kids behind to fend for themselves, it's not like they can afford childcare to go out to this full-time job you speak of (if such things even exist a the moment). Relatives aren't always an option but if people like you were in power, either the kids would get taken off them or they'd get no money.
VERY compassionate!


I do believe in a welfare state for people who have lost their jobs but I don't believe welfare should be a form of permanent addiction, America before the mid 90's used to have huge problems with getting single parents back to work but then quite a bit of tough love legislation was brought in in 1996 and before the recssion in 2007 over 65% of single parents were in full time employment. There's far too much of a bleeding heart do gooder mentality in this country and sometime tough love is whats required.
Jul 18, 2010 3:05 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
BentLid
BentLidBentLidDublin, Ireland6 Threads 1 Polls 153 Posts
L1977C: mayb she gets maintenance .I can say as a single mom i certainly wouldnt be out clubbing every weekend nor once a month think that case could be a one off but still gives you the balls to fire at every other single mother


yeah shes getting lone parents allowance and the father of her children is giving her money every week on the sly
Jul 18, 2010 3:07 PM CST Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud?
L1977C
L1977CL1977Cdublin, Dublin Ireland8 Threads 3,219 Posts
BentLid: yeah shes getting lone parents allowance and the father of her children is giving her money every week on the sly

on the sly?
prob because he knows whatever she gets into her hand gets takem straight back off her
sounds like you know alot about this girl...
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