Take the kids off welfare fraudsters in extreme cases of welfare fraud? (166)
Put them into foster care, sometimes you have to teach extreme fraudsters a lesson.
I have a 10 year old son by the way.
wittyone: And punish the innocent children, shame on you. Perhaps if people were actually given enough to meet their basic needs when unemployed they would not have to fraud the welfare, in comparison to Ireland those who fall under the UK welfare system which provides a pityful disgraceful amount of money for families to live on when they find themselves unemployed. I would recommend you try living on it before you judge everyone.
Welfare is far too generous in Ireland and yet there is still ahuge amount of welfare fraud, with a 10 year old child I wouldn't dream of committing welfare fraud as I want to set a proper example to my son. Also if a couple have committed welfare fraud for at least 2 years they should be sterilized.
Ken35: Welfare is far too generous in Ireland and yet there is still ahuge amount of welfare fraud, with a 10 year old child I wouldn't dream of committing welfare fraud as I want to set a proper example to my son. Also if a couple have committed welfare fraud for at least 2 years they should be sterilized.
go back under your bridge....
Neenaw: go back under your bridge....
at least try to contribute to the debate in a constructive manner instead of hurling personal insults.
Ken35: Put them into foster care, sometimes you have to teach extreme fraudsters a lesson.
its hard enough for the health board to find places for the kids that really need it without adding thousands more to their foster lists .
sweetvelvet: its hard enough for the health board to find places for the kids that really need it without adding thousands more to their foster lists .
Its more of a moral element welfare fraud, sometimes in cases where the parents have been working full time for at least 18 months on the scratcher then it is appropriate to take the kids off the parents.
Ken35: at least try to contribute to the debate in a constructive manner instead of hurling personal insults.
if it was a constructive debate, then i could participate, but you are only thowing out words to spur people into confrontation... that does not constitute a constructive debate....
Thats my opinion, to which i have the right to declare....
Neenaw: if it was a constructive debate, then i could participate, but you are only thowing out words to spur people into confrontation... that does not constitute a constructive debate....
Thats my opinion, to which i have the right to declare....
Thats my opinion, to which i have the right to declare....
Fair enough but wouldn't you agree that any parents considering welfare fraud woulf be deterred if they saw cases where the kids of extreme welfare fraudsters were placed into foster care. as the old saying " Sometimes you've got to be cruel to be kind".
The "single parent" welfare scam is the worst type of scam.
Ken35: Its more of a moral element welfare fraud, sometimes in cases where the parents have been working full time for at least 18 months on the scratcher then it is appropriate to take the kids off the parents.
have you been married have you got children. at the end of the
day its only bloody money. live and let live i say.
royester24: have you been married have you got children. at the end of the
day its only bloody money. live and let live i say.
day its only bloody money. live and let live i say.
I have a 10 year old son from a previous relationship, are you saying that welfare fraud should be tolerated?
Ken35: I have a 10 year old son from a previous relationship, are you saying that welfare fraud should be tolerated?
I doubt he is saying that .. settle down .
Welfare fraud is NOT the same as some banker ripping off the public.... and in the meantime filling there own coffers
merrilou: I doubt he is saying that .. settle down .
Welfare fraud is NOT the same as some banker ripping off the public.... and in the meantime filling there own coffers
Welfare fraud is NOT the same as some banker ripping off the public.... and in the meantime filling there own coffers
I'm opposed to the bank bailouts they should have been allowed crash and the likes of Sean Fitzpatrick should be lined up against a wall and executed.
I'm referring to welfare fraud, should it be condoned by society.
Ken35: I have a 10 year old son from a previous relationship, are you saying that welfare fraud should be tolerated?
the rich will allways be rich the poor find it hard to get a lucky break in this life if you want to find some one to blame
start at the top thoses who milked the celtic tiger for all they
could get. blameing the poor of society does not sit well
with me.
nite best wishes,
royester24: the rich will allways be rich the poor find it hard to get a lucky break in this life if you want to find some one to blame
start at the top thoses who milked the celtic tiger for all they
could get. blameing the poor of society does not sit well
with me.
nite best wishes,
start at the top thoses who milked the celtic tiger for all they
could get. blameing the poor of society does not sit well
with me.
nite best wishes,
The problem with welfare fraud is that it will mean that the government will have to implement even more drastic cuts in welfare then are are necsssary in the next couple of budgets, also it leads to higher taxes for the diminishing number of people still working.
Ken35: It still doesn't mean that we should tolerate welfare fraud as a society, I'm not bothered about someone doing a nixer one or 2 days a week, I'm referring to welfare fraudsters who are working full time in the black market and then claiming welfare when they have no right to claim welfare, think about it if more than 40,000 welfare cases of fraud were sucessfuly detected just think of the savings that the government would make.
I am talking about those who make a few bob working part time...they will never make a million but they may well get gas money or maybe better food to eat ........if half of the so called pilars of society took a pay cut , it would be more a fair society and they can afford to do that ... You are spoiling for fight in my view and you won't get it from me .
merrilou: I am talking about those who make a few bob working part time...they will never make a million but they may well get gas money or maybe better food to eat ........if half of the so called pilars of society took a pay cut , it would be more a fair society and they can afford to do that ... You are spoiling for fight in my view and you won't get it from me .
A minority of poor people in Ireland are poor because they deserve to be poor, if someone never bothered theirs arses working hard in school and left school early then they desrve to be poor, why should I as a middle class person have to subsidize white trash who refuse to better themselves, it just goes to show that socialism rewards laziness and punishes hard workers, a certain level of inequality is necessary in society and in the tax system so as to incentivise hard achievers to create jobs. Its called capitalism which separates the hard workers from the celtic tiger junkies who never worked, I'm not referring to people who have lost their job since late 2007 by the way.
Ken35: I know you'd obviously prefer to be working, I did refer to extreme cases of welfare fraud not someone doing a nixer one or 2 days a week.
one way to cure this put all thoes idiots from the governement in jail the bankers who fleeced thousands of people across the country out of millions of euros. its there fault were in this mess not the single mother who trying to bring up a family on social welfare esp when the kid father a walked away i stood up to my responabilities and support my child.
Ken35: A minority of poor people in Ireland are poor because they deserve to be poor, if someone never bothered theirs arses working hard in school and left school early then they desrve to be poor, why should I as a middle class person have to subsidize white trash who refuse to better themselves, it just goes to show that socialism rewards laziness and punishes hard workers, a certain level of inequality is necessary in society and in the tax system so as to incentivise hard achievers to create jobs. Its called capitalism which separates the hard workers from the celtic tiger junkies who never worked, I'm not referring to people who have lost their job since late 2007 by the way.
Do you have a mortgage ??
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If you take the children away from their parents they will need to be looked after and who will foot the bill for that? taxpayer again
and leaving a child to be looked after by the state would not be a great idea, look at the way Daniel Mcanaspie was treated shifted from place to place, ended up loosing his life too young like many other children who were put into the care of the state