Women as leaders; men as guardians? ( Archived) (95)

Jan 14, 2011 9:57 AM CST Women as leaders; men as guardians?
agman: The world is acting like it has no momma.
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Jan 14, 2011 9:57 AM CST Women as leaders; men as guardians?
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
agman: The world is acting like it has no momma.


You got it Agman!! laugh
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Jan 14, 2011 9:57 AM CST Women as leaders; men as guardians?
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
EagleWoman: Taking care of oneself and ones family is totally commendable

And yes I do take care of myself and my family (although they are now grown and independent) BUT I also care and help my community. I grow vegetable. I could buy a bigger freezer to store it all but instead I choose to share them with my neighbours and friends especially if I know they might be struggling this month... Small thing that can make someone's day...It's like this: Nothing is either black or white. Balance is of the essence.


I agree and I contribute to my community as needed. As I said I have no problem helping those who are trying to help themselves but I don't contribute to those that want just the handout. I Don't watch tv and read to inform myself of things that are going on in the world.

My view is just my view. Not trying to hurt anyone.

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Jan 14, 2011 10:12 AM CST Women as leaders; men as guardians?
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
Actractorguy: I agree and I contribute to my community as needed. As I said I have no problem helping those who are trying to help themselves but I don't contribute to those that want just the handout. I Don't watch tv and read to inform myself of things that are going on in the world.

My view is just my view. Not trying to hurt anyone.


Sooooooooooo we're agreed on taking care of oneself, one's family and helping within our community handshake

Now lets push it a little further.

Ask yourself if you help your community from the heart (compassion) OR to be seen as a good guy (ego)...

What we are saying here is that compassion allows one to feel and help those worst off than ourselves not just in our communities but further afield, in other communities that are not directly under our noses... Because they are not directly under our noses making judgements of how they came to be in such state of neediness is rather difficult as the press is "OWNED" by our governments and theirs).
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Jan 14, 2011 10:37 AM CST Women as leaders; men as guardians?
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
EagleWoman: Sooooooooooo we're agreed on taking care of oneself, one's family and helping within our community

Now lets push it a little further.

Ask yourself if you help your community from the heart (compassion) OR to be seen as a good guy (ego)...

What we are saying here is that compassion allows one to feel and help those worst off than ourselves not just in our communities but further afield, in other communities that are not directly under our noses... Because they are not directly under our noses making judgements of how they came to be in such state of neediness is rather difficult as the press is "OWNED" by our governments and theirs).


I do it because I want to help. I have done many Humanitarian things in My military career. I have helped build schools, Orphanages and other things. I spent 2 weeks in Bangladesh After the Typhoon in 91. Do you know what it's like watching bodies float by in a river or any where? I do. It's not something I want to do again. It's all good and I felt great after doing that. I can't go to other places due to finances now. So when some one says that I'm not compassionate or caring that's their opinion. Been there done that. I have done and am doing what I feel I need to do. I just have strong opinions about it. It all stems from the take personal responsibility for yourself and then I will gladly lend a hand.
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Jan 14, 2011 10:54 AM CST Women as leaders; men as guardians?
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
Actractorguy: I do it because I want to help. I have done many Humanitarian things in My military career. I have helped build schools, Orphanages and other things. I spent 2 weeks in Bangladesh After the Typhoon in 91. Do you know what it's like watching bodies float by in a river or any where? I do. It's not something I want to do again. It's all good and I felt great after doing that. I can't go to other places due to finances now. So when some one says that I'm not compassionate or caring that's their opinion. Been there done that. I have done and am doing what I feel I need to do. I just have strong opinions about it. It all stems from the take personal responsibility for yourself and then I will gladly lend a hand.


That's ok handshake

Your strong opinions and replies to them have somehow hijacked the thread laugh

Let's get back to woman's nurturing V man's war like nature

and is the answer women as leaders and men as guardians?

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Jan 14, 2011 11:05 AM CST Women as leaders; men as guardians?
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
EagleWoman: That's ok

Your strong opinions and replies to them have somehow hijacked the thread

Let's get back to woman's nurturing V man's war like nature

and is the answer women as leaders and men as guardians?



Didn't mean to hijack. To me there is not right or wrong answer as I said before. We are only human. Some women would make great leaders other not. Same goes for men. I would do my research before making a decision. Knowledge is power. Having the knowledge to make an informed decision based on their prior actions and beliefs would be what makes the determination for me.

Hope that makes sense to you.
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Jan 14, 2011 11:12 AM CST Women as leaders; men as guardians?
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

This goes for man or Woman.

Would you agree?
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Jan 14, 2011 11:14 AM CST Women as leaders; men as guardians?
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
Actractorguy: Didn't mean to . To me there is not right or wrong answer as I said before. We are only human. Some women would make great leaders other not. Same goes for men. I would do my research before making a decision. Knowledge is power. Having the knowledge to make an informed decision based on their prior actions and beliefs would be what makes the determination for me.

Hope that makes sense to you.


Knowledge is power

WISDOM is power - power without aggressive force - One that has nothing to prove
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Jan 14, 2011 11:16 AM CST Women as leaders; men as guardians?
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
Actractorguy: Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

This goes for man or Woman.

Would you agree?


laugh Yes I would agree! Hence my reply to your other post
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Jan 14, 2011 11:17 AM CST Women as leaders; men as guardians?
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
EagleWoman: Knowledge is power

WISDOM is power - power without aggressive force - One that has nothing to prove


Knowledge begets wisdom to make an informed choice.
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Jan 14, 2011 11:21 AM CST Women as leaders; men as guardians?
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
Actractorguy: Knowledge begets wisdom to make an informed choice.


Knowledge can be GOT only from books wisdom cannot. There lays the difference. Difference in how it's acquired and difference in the result.
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Jan 14, 2011 11:25 AM CST Women as leaders; men as guardians?
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
EagleWoman: Knowledge can be GOT only from books wisdom cannot. There lays the difference. Difference in how it's acquired and difference in the result.


There I disagree. I have gotten knowledge and wisdom from my elders, books and living life. It's what you are wiling to accept that gives you knowledge and wisdom.
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Jan 14, 2011 12:23 PM CST Women as leaders; men as guardians?
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
Actractorguy: There I disagree. I have gotten knowledge and wisdom from my elders, books and living life. It's what you are wiling to accept that gives you knowledge and wisdom.






Having "strong opinions" is the opposite of wisdom where ever one got their knowledge from...

Wisdom is being aware and accepting that there are a myriad of possibilities not all of which have yet been experienced...

Wisdom is knowing when to bow out gracefuly ...
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Jan 15, 2011 4:04 AM CST Women as leaders; men as guardians?
DeusExMachina
DeusExMachinaDeusExMachinahaaltert, Oost Vlaanderen Belgium55 Threads 1 Polls 2,705 Posts
I think that women as nurses and men as dirty doctors is more rewarding to me
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