Peace (913)
SilverBirchSomewhere, Virginia USA17 Threads 4 Polls 3,158 Poststtom, It is a start. But there have been many "starts". What the Palestine s are doing is going for international support. Russia is big. China, would be bigger. I think this is seen by many as a symbolic struggle.
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SilverBirch: ttom, It is a start. But there have been many "starts". What the Palestine s are doing is going for international support. Russia is big. China, would be bigger. I think this is seen by many as a symbolic struggle.
No real support then S B and the you cannot resist speaking for the many. Sorry mate you don't speak for me.
Any comment on the quote about the Guardian bit above ????
As always JMO
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patmac: No real support then S B and the you cannot resist speaking for the many. Sorry mate you don't speak for me.
Any comment on the quote about the Guardian bit above ????
As always JMO
Yes, you lied and left out the part where I said " ...we're the same age and ancestry, BUT I'M BETTER LOOKING ...Any comment on the quote about the Guardian bit above ????
As always JMO
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Blues63: While your dialectics are merely ad hominem attacks without contributing to the debate in any constructive fashion.
Yes, and the only reason why is that I waste my time trying to expose serious arguments to some people who cannot even rad properly. But if you are annoyed with that, I invite you to start discussing heavily. Ok?
It would be a change for you, as I see you hitting and running away without clarifying your opinions or the parties you support.
Just let me know when you want to start.
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SilverBirch: Yes, you lied and left out the part where I said " ...we're the same age and ancestry, BUT I'M BETTER LOOKING ...
That confirms you quoted and lied aout the newspaper .....Thank you. ------ This thread is Archived ------
Peace, i guess it start to ourselves and then it can spread out strongly then electricity
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patmac: So glad to see you admitting S B started a "phony" thread. I thought that was against the rules.
And the fact you support the subterfuge says so much for your stance here.
Anyone who supports anyone who opens a thread under a false heading or title for the reasons you stated has a problem with truth.
And as for your opening few lines I have no need to develop as I can only state my own honest opinion as I always do.
And the fact you support the subterfuge says so much for your stance here.
Anyone who supports anyone who opens a thread under a false heading or title for the reasons you stated has a problem with truth.
And as for your opening few lines I have no need to develop as I can only state my own honest opinion as I always do.
What´s your problem in reading posts?
Personally I do not use phony or cliched categories, then I did not support any subterfuge. Read the post again.
Instead I support the basic intention of SB to get people to know other things apart from the reports of the Israeli apparatus of propaganda. Yes, another type of propaganda.
And if you are so right about "your opinion" then I have to recall I asked you to show how every single murder in the occupied territories was the product of a Hamas fighter pushing a poor civilian into a compartment to be pounded by the IDF. You have skipped this request, so I ask you again. I can see how annoying it is for you to see people not giving answers, so why don´t you teach us with your example?
That is the best way to teach.
Your humble opinion is not enough. I am sorry.
Ah! Problems with the truth?
Truth, unbiased opinion, facts, majority. I think you need a crash course of basic epistemology. All that rubbish used and abused by you and others belongs to the realm of blahblah science.
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patmac: S B Strange how many folk disagree with your point even Antjo went as far as saying you had a reason for opening a "PHONEY"
thread.
So no way is this about peace.
And you still have never replied to all or even most of my questions. As I have pointed out. Now you accuse how many folk of being in the same mode as yourself. No way S B. most folk see ALL side s of the discussion and do not claim as you do to "SPEAK FOR THE FREE WORLD".
So with that thought how would you like to answer this.
For a man who purports to speak up for the FREE WORLD and the INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY
Can you answer me this ???
Why then are the VAST MAJORITY on here all from the INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY and FREE WORLDSo against your point....
Just a direct question for you S B no opinion just Fact.
Any slim chance of an answer?????
AS always JMO
thread.
So no way is this about peace.
And you still have never replied to all or even most of my questions. As I have pointed out. Now you accuse how many folk of being in the same mode as yourself. No way S B. most folk see ALL side s of the discussion and do not claim as you do to "SPEAK FOR THE FREE WORLD".
So with that thought how would you like to answer this.
For a man who purports to speak up for the FREE WORLD and the INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY
Can you answer me this ???
Why then are the VAST MAJORITY on here all from the INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY and FREE WORLDSo against your point....
Just a direct question for you S B no opinion just Fact.
Any slim chance of an answer?????
AS always JMO
So here I disagree...which is exactly true (but about using that title easy to be attacked by you and other open or cloaked Pro-Israel people...NEVER about YOUR Manipulating STUFF)
But, on the other hand, when you answered to me, you said that I was supporting a "subterfuge"
Your opinion is just a whirl of subjective stuff to make you look good and feed your starving ego. Or where is your consistence?
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Antjo39: So here I disagree...which is exactly true (but about using that title easy to be attacked by you and other open or cloaked Pro-Israel people...NEVER about YOUR Manipulating STUFF)
But, on the other hand, when you answered to me, you said that I was supporting a "subterfuge"
Your opinion is just a whirl of subjective stuff to make you look good and feed your starving ego. Or where is your consistence?
funny you 3 arrived to together last night as well and as for you supporting a subterfuge.. Last night post from you.But, on the other hand, when you answered to me, you said that I was supporting a "subterfuge"
Your opinion is just a whirl of subjective stuff to make you look good and feed your starving ego. Or where is your consistence?
Ha! read any of my opinions about Hamas all the time. So, sorry that your standard model of opponent does nto work well.
Have you noticed that after a while you are repeating the same stuff over and over again without developing any of your wise statements?
I think, personally, it is a mistake that SB started his thread with that phony title. His intention to get people see the other side of the coin (otherwise it would only be the official side) is necessary and works independently on his intentions, so personally there is nothing for him to feel intimidated about. Unless he was avoiding having the thread banned.
And you can make up with the complement of his threads: "the other crimes SB is not mentioning" Why don´t you do it? I am eager to contribute to that one.
Or is it more comfortable not to see anyone dennouncing certain crimes (which are the root of any other mess in the Middle east)?
So you state his title was phony. And you support him avoiding "having his thread banned "
I need not say any more.
As always JMO
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Pat, This thread is entirely about Peace. Explain the ruse? I've granted Hamas complicity, but again need I remind you that there have been over 2000 Palestine s butchered in the last two years vs 20 +/- Israeli s during the same time. So of course I'm championing the cause of what I see as the "victim".
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SilverBirch: Pat, This thread is entirely about Peace. Explain the ruse? I've granted Hamas complicity, but again need I remind you that there have been over 2000 Palestine s butchered in the last two years vs 20 +/- Israeli s during the same time. So of course I'm championing the cause of what I see as the "victim".
It's a dog eat dog world. Looks like Palestine has the milkbone underwear.
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elienebrazil: Peace, i guess it start to ourselves and then it can spread out strongly then electricity
Peace be with you Ms.------ This thread is Archived ------
SilverBirch: Pat, This thread is entirely about Peace. Explain the ruse? I've granted Hamas complicity, but again need I remind you that there have been over 2000 Palestine s butchered in the last two years vs 20 +/- Israeli s during the same time. So of course I'm championing the cause of what I see as the "victim".
And just how many folk spotted the ruse S B. count back even Antjo said it was phony ......
As alwas JMO Oh forgot Antjo and a lot of others shared it as well
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Well goodnight folks 1:15 here time for some sleep.
So feel free folks to have some fun and S B have a listen ....
Keep doing it S B makes life much easier
As always JMO
Night all
So feel free folks to have some fun and S B have a listen ....
Keep doing it S B makes life much easier
As always JMO
Night all
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patmac: And just how many folk spotted the ruse S B. count back even Antjo said it was phony ......As alwas JMO Oh forgot Antjo and a lot of others shared it as well
Well Pat, I know its late for you over there, 1;10 AM? So you must be getting tired. And again, this forum is entirely about Peace. Peace between the Israeli s and Palestine s. How can this Sad Sad Saga be resolved. I feel the present impasse has to do with there not being any real common ground. The settlements and the annexing of East Jerusalem are illegal in the eyes of the international community. Yet the land grab continues. I see this as a major stumbling block to Peace.------ This thread is Archived ------
Thank you Ms Eliene, Stop by again!
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Israeli settlement activity undermines trust, prejudices peace talks: UN official
Israeli settlement expansion in the Palestinian West Bank and East Jerusalem " continues to undermine trust and prejudices final status discussion" in the Middle East peace process, a top UN official said Wednesday.
The sharp increase in Israeli settlement construction activity recorded at the end of the settlement moratorium on Sept. 26, 2010 has continued, with construction work beginning on up to 2,000 units in the West Ban since that time," B. Lynn Pascoe, UN under- secretary-general for political affairs, told the UN Security Council in his briefing on the situation in the Middle East.
Israel's refusal to extend a moratorium on settlement construction.
Pascoe reiterated UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon's call on Israel to "freeze all settlement activity in conformity with international law."
Arab member states put forth a draft resolution to the Security Council in December, condemning Israeli settlement activity in the West Bank and East Jerusalem -- a vote on the resolution remains pending.Meanwhile, the UN official urged the international community and the Quartet -- a diplomatic group consisting of the UN, the U. S., Russia and the European Union -- to facilitate the Palestinian Authority's state building efforts.In recent weeks, several Latin American countries, including Brazil, Argentina, Chile and Venezuela, recognized Palestinian rights to an independent state in the territories Israel claimed in the 1967 Middle East war.
Israeli settlement expansion in the Palestinian West Bank and East Jerusalem " continues to undermine trust and prejudices final status discussion" in the Middle East peace process, a top UN official said Wednesday.
The sharp increase in Israeli settlement construction activity recorded at the end of the settlement moratorium on Sept. 26, 2010 has continued, with construction work beginning on up to 2,000 units in the West Ban since that time," B. Lynn Pascoe, UN under- secretary-general for political affairs, told the UN Security Council in his briefing on the situation in the Middle East.
Israel's refusal to extend a moratorium on settlement construction.
Pascoe reiterated UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon's call on Israel to "freeze all settlement activity in conformity with international law."
Arab member states put forth a draft resolution to the Security Council in December, condemning Israeli settlement activity in the West Bank and East Jerusalem -- a vote on the resolution remains pending.Meanwhile, the UN official urged the international community and the Quartet -- a diplomatic group consisting of the UN, the U. S., Russia and the European Union -- to facilitate the Palestinian Authority's state building efforts.In recent weeks, several Latin American countries, including Brazil, Argentina, Chile and Venezuela, recognized Palestinian rights to an independent state in the territories Israel claimed in the 1967 Middle East war.
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On Tuesday, Russian President Dmitri A. Medvedev met with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in the West Bank and reaffirmed his country's support for a Palestinian state with its capital in East Jerusalem.
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