Understanding men's thinking! (35)

Feb 15, 2011 3:07 AM CST Understanding men's thinking!
Blooms
BloomsBloomsDublin, Offaly Ireland3 Threads 44 Posts
forestshaks: MEN!!!!!never go to them for help on a tuesday...
Lets be honest, the guy's bored out of the relationship and it could be both need space..Oh yes u can be 'too emotionally involved in any relationship' that it chokes u to death.
He was lying about being happy, probably found someone else..
But in saying this he might have a different story so i can't really judge.. never mind plenty of fish on this site.

Thank you for responding, have to say though that he was just as blunt as you and if he'd been bored he would have come straight out and said it. I dont agree that you can be to emotionally involved. Does that mean then that if you love some one 100% that your doing something wrong. I wish I could find a guy that wasn't an emotional coward because they seem to be in the majority far as I can see. If you dont love them they complain, if you love them too much the complain, if you try middle way the dont trust you! You just cant win with you guys!
Feb 15, 2011 4:38 AM CST Understanding men's thinking!
wittyone
wittyonewittyoneDerry, Ireland9 Threads 8,815 Posts
Thank you for responding, have to say though that he was just as blunt as you and if he'd been bored he would have come straight out and said it. I dont agree that you can be to emotionally involved. Does that mean then that if you love some one 100% that your doing something wrong. I wish I could find a guy that wasn't an emotional coward because they seem to be in the majority far as I can see. If you dont love them they complain, if you love them too much the complain, if you try middle way the dont trust you! You just cant win with you guys![/quote]

You have to be true to yourself, and if that means losing him so be it, rather be true to myself and single than live a lie or a life to please another, been there done that for way too many years.
Re the bit I have highlighted, don't think that is just a guy thing, we can all be like that sometimes JMO
Hope your OK. hug
Think we have to leave their issues at their door and also acknowledge our own. JMO

Isn't dating fun laugh
Feb 15, 2011 5:19 AM CST Understanding men's thinking!
Blooms
BloomsBloomsDublin, Offaly Ireland3 Threads 44 Posts
In response to:
Think we have to leave their issues at their door and also acknowledge our own. JMO

Isn't dating fun


Yeah! I agree with you, but you can love someone 100% without being untrue to yourself. Actually if you don't give your relationship your best shot then your not being true to anyone! I've learned a lot since I've come on to the forums, lots of wit and laughter and a variety of opinions! Ye're a lovely bunch of humanity :-D laugh
Feb 15, 2011 5:41 AM CST Understanding men's thinking!
leisure07
leisure07leisure07birmingham, West Midlands, England UK29 Threads 1 Polls 7,059 Posts
Blooms: Yeah! I agree with you, but you can love someone 100% without being untrue to yourself. Actually if you don't give your relationship your best shot then your not being true to anyone! I've learned a lot since I've come on to the forums, lots of wit and laughter and a variety of opinions! Ye're a lovely bunch of humanity :-D
relationships are built on trusts and when one starts appplying conditions it is up to the other whether these conditons are acceptable ,thats when the cracks begin to appear its all about give and take and share the journey together with compromise
life is not a bed of roses
Feb 15, 2011 5:43 AM CST Understanding men's thinking!
wittyone
wittyonewittyoneDerry, Ireland9 Threads 8,815 Posts
Blooms: Yeah! I agree with you, but you can love someone 100% without being untrue to yourself. Actually if you don't give your relationship your best shot then your not being true to anyone! I've learned a lot since I've come on to the forums, lots of wit and laughter and a variety of opinions! Ye're a lovely bunch of humanity :-D


When you acknowledge you love someone you are being true to yourself, but if this love is not returned in the same capacity, then the relationship is skewed. Do we be honest with ourselves and acknowledge this and accept this or not, this is when we are either being true to ourselves or not, we also need to acknowledge why we accept this.
We all deserve honesty and love in return for our honesty and love. Take care. hug
Of course take into consideration your talking to a woman who is very happy just dating presently in life.
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Feb 15, 2011 6:48 AM CST Understanding men's thinking!
nvosiris
nvosirisnvosirismeath, Meath Ireland53 Threads 6 Polls 5,712 Posts
wittyone: When you acknowledge you love someone you are being true to yourself, but if this love is not returned in the same capacity, then the relationship is skewed. Do we be honest with ourselves and acknowledge this and accept this or not, this is when we are either being true to ourselves or not, we also need to acknowledge why we accept this.
We all deserve honesty and love in return for our honesty and love. Take care.
Of course take into consideration your talking to a woman who is very happy just dating presently in life.


What you have said is very true C thumbs up You have to be honest to youself in both the giving and the receiving of love.

I think that their is always one in the couple who will love that bit more or that bit less, it is only natural as we are all different................ There is no physical gauge to measure love, we know in our own heart when we love and if that love is returned or not. After that if our head can accept what our heart tell`s us is what determines the outcome of the relationship............ JMO heart wings heart wings
Feb 15, 2011 7:37 AM CST Understanding men's thinking!
howlingwolf
howlingwolfhowlingwolfWest Cork, Cork Ireland30 Threads 1,218 Posts
What is an "emotional coward"? Is it someone who isn't able to experience their own emotions or someone who won't be drawn into another persons dramas? If it's the former then it is unkind to refer to them as coward because people who are emotionally deadened are generally so as a result of trauma and as such are disabled. If it's the latter then they may be wise not to indulge some meaningless passion play with no objective other than providing an emotional experience for someone who is also possibly an "emotional coward".

If that all sounds like jibberish then that is possible because talking about emotions is jibberish but don't say that to the mega-industry that thrives on it. They get very annoyed when their livelihood is threatened. You have to feel emotions and hold them in your body. Trying to intellectualise them is like trying to rake clouds.
Feb 15, 2011 7:46 AM CST Understanding men's thinking!
nvosiris
nvosirisnvosirismeath, Meath Ireland53 Threads 6 Polls 5,712 Posts
What is an "emotional coward"? Is it someone who isn't able to experience their own emotions or someone who won't be drawn into another persons dramas? If it's the former then it is unkind to refer to them as coward because people who are emotionally deadened are generally so as a result of trauma and as such are disabled. If it's the latter then they may be wise not to indulge some meaningless passion play with no objective other than providing an emotional experience for someone who is also possibly an "emotional coward".

If that all sounds like jibberish then that is possible because talking about emotions is jibberish but don't say that to the mega-industry that thrives on it. They get very annoyed when their livelihood is threatened. You have to feel emotions and hold them in your body. Trying to intellectualise them is like trying to rake clouds.


That is a brilliant way of putting it all in a nut shell thumbs up
Feb 15, 2011 3:14 PM CST Understanding men's thinking!
Blooms
BloomsBloomsDublin, Offaly Ireland3 Threads 44 Posts
howlingwolf: What is an "emotional coward"? Is it someone who isn't able to experience their own emotions or someone who won't be drawn into another persons dramas? If it's the former then it is unkind to refer to them as coward because people who are emotionally deadened are generally so as a result of trauma and as such are disabled. If it's the latter then they may be wise not to indulge some meaningless passion play with no objective other than providing an emotional experience for someone who is also possibly an "emotional coward".

If that all sounds like jibberish then that is possible because talking about emotions is jibberish but don't say that to the mega-industry that thrives on it. They get very annoyed when their livelihood is threatened.*** You have to feel emotions and hold them in your body.*** Trying to intellectualise them is like trying to rake clouds.


its this line *** you have to feel emotions and hold them in your body***- that im trying to figure out the intelligence of! Why keep the emotions hidden, unspoken. How is someone to know what your feeling if you cant tell them and you dont show them? I am not a dramatic person n im not into making scenes. I like to understand whats going on but its a 'no go' area to ask so tell me what's the answer, if I presume I could be just fooling myself , if I ask I'm making a scene! Whats your answer, why do you have to "feel your emotions and keep them in your body" ?
Feb 15, 2011 3:33 PM CST Understanding men's thinking!
nvosiris
nvosirisnvosirismeath, Meath Ireland53 Threads 6 Polls 5,712 Posts
Blooms: its this line *** you have to feel emotions and hold them in your body***- that im trying to figure out the intelligence of! Why keep the emotions hidden, unspoken. How is someone to know what your feeling if you cant tell them and you dont show them? I am not a dramatic person n im not into making scenes. I like to understand whats going on but its a ' be just fooling myself , if I ask I'm making a scene! Whats no go' area to ask so tell me what's the answer, if I presume I couldyour answer, why do you have to "feel your emotions and keep them in your body" ?



Are you talking about your partner here or to the poster in the quote i have higlighted wave
Feb 15, 2011 6:20 PM CST Understanding men's thinking!
Blooms
BloomsBloomsDublin, Offaly Ireland3 Threads 44 Posts
nvosiris: Are you talking about your partner here or to the poster in the quote i have higlighted


its a 'no go area ' to ask men about their emotions-( jibberish-per howlingwolf) and they 'feel their emotions and keep them inside their body' , i'm trying to understand why?!
Its like that old fashioned idea that men shouldn't cry!
Feb 20, 2011 12:53 PM CST Understanding men's thinking!
CAITLIN765
CAITLIN765CAITLIN765DERRY, Derry Ireland12 Threads 4,637 Posts
nvosiris: What you have said is very true C You have to be honest to youself in both the giving and the receiving of love.

I think that their is always one in the couple who will love that bit more or that bit less, it is only natural as we are all different................ There is no physical gauge to measure love, we know in our own heart when we love and if that love is returned or not. After that if our head can accept what our heart tell`s us is what determines the outcome of the relationship............ JMO
So true N - its like that Script song - 'love dont break even' - its hard to get a complete 50/50 match and you're right you have to resign yourself to accepting less or move on until you get what you need - no point in waiting for the other person to make decisions about the relationship you are in - accept or reject - I was going to say simple but this decision is anything but simple. Again JMO
Feb 20, 2011 2:12 PM CST Understanding men's thinking!
Blooms: its a 'no go area ' to ask men about their emotions-( jibberish-per howlingwolf) and they 'feel their emotions and keep them inside their body' , i'm trying to understand why?!
Its like that old fashioned idea that men shouldn't cry!



The stiff uppper lip!
Feb 20, 2011 2:15 PM CST Understanding men's thinking!
howlingwolf
howlingwolfhowlingwolfWest Cork, Cork Ireland30 Threads 1,218 Posts
snowlynx: The stiff uppper lip!


Stiff up her what?
Feb 20, 2011 2:20 PM CST Understanding men's thinking!
skinnyminnypink
skinnyminnypinkskinnyminnypinkKilkenny, Ireland218 Threads 6,300 Posts
howlingwolf: Stiff up her what?



LIP!! laugh

Many a lip between glass and shoe .....


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