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Mar 24, 2011 4:49 AM CST Did You Know
vyoleta
vyoletavyoletaArkaroola, South Australia Australia44 Threads 6 Polls 1,050 Posts
...that Newtonian world is so predictable that if there was a computer strong enough it could predict the future as exactly as to the smallest elementary particle.
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Mar 24, 2011 9:37 AM CST Did You Know
Frankinstien
FrankinstienFrankinstienSan Juan, Puerto Rico1 Threads 1,521 Posts
vyoleta: ...that Newtonian world is so predictable that if there was a computer strong enough it could predict the future as exactly as to the smallest elementary particle.
Dear Vyoleta, Sory for the long delay ( time difference ) however , yes in a Newtonian world it would be possable . The problemb with doing this is twofold . First : Newton lived in a world with limited knoledge of the plannet and the unaverse ( mostly eronious religious views ). The second problem is the laws of entrophy . Small differences can escalate into large variables . I know that this was a limited and rather simplistic view of the question, however I has been tried on many ocassions . At this time we don't know all the variables to even beguin to predict anything . Now if we ever do , I can't answer that one ( yes not enough information again ).
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Mar 24, 2011 9:47 AM CST Did You Know
vyoleta
vyoletavyoletaArkaroola, South Australia Australia44 Threads 6 Polls 1,050 Posts
Frankinstien: Dear Vyoleta, Sory for the long delay ( time difference ) however , yes in a Newtonian world it would be possable . The problemb with doing this is twofold . First : Newton lived in a world with limited knoledge of the plannet and the unaverse ( mostly eronious religious views ). The second problem is the laws of entrophy . Small differences can escalate into large variables . I know that this was a limited and rather simplistic view of the question, however I has been tried on many ocassions . At this time we don't know all the variables to even beguin to predict anything . Now if we ever do , I can't answer that one ( yes not enough information again ).



It is a supposition based on the Newton's laws in physics.
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Mar 24, 2011 9:49 AM CST Did You Know
vyoleta
vyoletavyoletaArkaroola, South Australia Australia44 Threads 6 Polls 1,050 Posts
Patronymic names are those that identify the father and various cultures did so by different means. The Scandinavians added "son" to identify John's son or Erik's son. The Norman-French used the prefix "Fitz" to mean child of, as in Fitzpatrick, for child of Patrick. Many other cultures had their own prefixes to indicate of the father('s name) , including the Scots ('Mac'Donald), Irish ('O'Brien), Dutch ('Van'Buren), the French ('de'Gaulle), Germans ('Von'berger) Spanish/Italian ('Di'Tello) and the Arab-speaking nations ('ibn'-Saud). Sometimes the prefixes were attached to places rather than the father's name, such as traditional family land holdings or estates.
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Mar 24, 2011 12:19 PM CST Did You Know
Frankinstien
FrankinstienFrankinstienSan Juan, Puerto Rico1 Threads 1,521 Posts
Hello again, Newton's laws only work in a small sphere ( the earth's athmosphere ) and therefore would not apply to present day physics . He was a brilliant man ( I think one of the most ) who brought rational thought to science ( excluding religions ). While I'm here what does that have to do with Patroymic names ? ? ? ? confused
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Jun 2, 2011 3:47 PM CST Did You Know
johnaustin123
johnaustin123johnaustin123Eastlake, Ohio USA76 Threads 16 Polls 4,330 Posts
According to lore, Sir Isaac Newton was sitting under an apple tree while thinking about his Gravity Theory. Isaac was very religious, so he prayed to his God for an answer to the question “Why do you grow apples on trees and watermelons on vines”?

An apple dropped out of the tree and bopped him on the head one day, and then Isaac understood why watermelons did not grow in trees.

Isaacs scientific law: “for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction” also applies to life. Nowadays, we call it “what goes around comes around”.

The Beatles - Golden Slumbers, Carry That Weight, The End - Lyrics - HQ

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Jun 28, 2011 4:37 AM CST Did You Know
vyoleta
vyoletavyoletaArkaroola, South Australia Australia44 Threads 6 Polls 1,050 Posts
Frankinstien: Hello again, Newton's laws only work in a small sphere ( the earth's athmosphere ) and therefore would not apply to present day physics . He was a brilliant man ( I think one of the most ) who brought rational thought to science ( excluding religions ). While I'm here what does that have to do with Patroymic names ? ? ? ?



Sorry, I haven't noticed this question so far. It has nothing to do with Newton, but the thread's title is "Did You Know" which means that you don't have to connect one didyouknow with the next, just things which you think that some people might not know.
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Jun 28, 2011 4:42 AM CST Did You Know
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
vyoleta: Patronymic names are those that identify the father and various cultures did so by different means. The Scandinavians added "son" to identify John's son or Erik's son. The Norman-French used the prefix "Fitz" to mean child of, as in Fitzpatrick, for child of Patrick. Many other cultures had their own prefixes to indicate of the father('s name) , including the Scots ('Mac'Donald), Irish ('O'Brien), Dutch ('Van'Buren), the French ('de'Gaulle), Germans ('Von'berger) Spanish/Italian ('Di'Tello) and the Arab-speaking nations ('ibn'-Saud). Sometimes the prefixes were attached to places rather than the father's name, such as traditional family land holdings or estates.


And the Welsh "Ap", so Ap Rhys, son of Rhys, which commonly became Prhys, or Prees.
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Jun 28, 2011 4:46 AM CST Did You Know
Witchaywoman
WitchaywomanWitchaywomanCarpentersville, Illinois USA97 Threads 13 Polls 4,344 Posts
vyoleta: ...that Newtonian world is so predictable that if there was a computer strong enough it could predict the future as exactly as to the smallest elementary particle.


They did that years ago. The answer was 42. devil
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Jun 28, 2011 5:41 AM CST Did You Know
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
vyoleta: ...that Newtonian world is so predictable that if there was a computer strong enough it could predict the future as exactly as to the smallest elementary particle.


But how can we be sure that quantum schizophrenia will repeat history ?
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Jun 28, 2011 8:20 AM CST Did You Know
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Witchaywoman: They did that years ago. The answer was 42.


Good to know it!

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coffee
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Jun 28, 2011 8:27 AM CST Did You Know
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
vyoleta: ...that Newtonian world is so predictable that if there was a computer strong enough it could predict the future as exactly as to the smallest elementary particle.

Would those smallest elementary particles being able to be divided into other more smallest elementary particles?

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Jun 28, 2011 9:02 AM CST Did You Know
Frankinstien
FrankinstienFrankinstienSan Juan, Puerto Rico1 Threads 1,521 Posts
vyoleta: Sorry, I haven't noticed this question so far. It has nothing to do with Newton, but the thread's title is "Did You Know" which means that you don't have to connect one didyouknow with the next, just things which you think that some people might not know.
Vyoleta, Well better late than never . Ok the next " Did you know ". Newton was a verry brilliant man ( probably one of the most ) however most of his work was only recently discovered . He was a product of his time and limited to the knowledge gained so far . He also was in a high position and as such did not want the religious hierachy to know what he was working on ( alchemy ) or how he realy felt ( about religion and it's rediculous dogma ) . He's most noted for his work in optics and modern physics , but his secret work is the groundwork for modern sub atomic practice and elemental structure . He was quite a facinating guy . Our world has been moved on by Einstien and now Hawkins but they all followed The trail set by Newton . I'm impressed also, Most women on here would post things like "why he doesn't call " or " should I buy that pair of shoes ". You post actual intelegent ones . Keep doing it, at least you have one fan here . .. . .hug
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Jun 28, 2011 10:17 AM CST Did You Know
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
vyoleta: ...that Newtonian world is so predictable that if there was a computer strong enough it could predict the future as exactly as to the smallest elementary particle.




Don't forget that Newton had been hit in the head by a rather large apple; he may not have been in 'right' mind and as far as his rather limited 'laws' of physics goes, they may not apply to other planets let alone other galaxies, etc. at all. Surely no one actually believes even for a moment that there are not more 'laws' to discover, let alone change once Humanity experiences other worlds and/or finally, first open contact with other species...
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Jun 29, 2011 4:35 AM CST Did You Know
vyoleta
vyoletavyoletaArkaroola, South Australia Australia44 Threads 6 Polls 1,050 Posts
Thanks F. for appreciating the thread. I found the sentence about Newton in a certain book on quantum physics and I liked its simplicity in explaining laws of mechanistic physics. Everything is ruled by physical laws and once you understand them you can predict everything, you can know everything, past, present, future. But... quantum physics came afterwards to prove that our knowledge is so small compared to things that always appear to show us something new.

And, solitare, it is not only Newton who thought he reached the top of the truth, every age thought so about itself's wisdom.
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Jun 29, 2011 4:36 PM CST Did You Know
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Witchaywoman: They did that years ago. The answer was 42.


I tried 42 and it didn't work.
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Jun 29, 2011 4:45 PM CST Did You Know
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
lifeisadream: Would those smallest elementary particles being able to be divided into other more smallest elementary particles?


The Uttle fleas that do us tease
Have other fleas that bite 'em,
And these in turn have other fleas,
And so it goes ad infinitum.
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Jun 30, 2011 5:05 AM CST Did You Know
vyoleta
vyoletavyoletaArkaroola, South Australia Australia44 Threads 6 Polls 1,050 Posts
lifeisadream: Would those smallest elementary particles being able to be divided into other more smallest elementary particles?


No, because they don't behave in accordance with Newton's physical laws anymore. At a certain point they turn into waves loosing their characteristics of being spatial, or being perceived as spatial.
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Jul 1, 2011 5:50 AM CST Did You Know
vyoleta
vyoletavyoletaArkaroola, South Australia Australia44 Threads 6 Polls 1,050 Posts
vyoleta: No, because they don't behave in accordance with Newton's physical laws anymore. At a certain point they turn into waves loosing their characteristics of being spatial, or being perceived as spatial.



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Jul 1, 2011 5:49 PM CST Did You Know
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
RayfromUSA: I tried 42 and it didn't work.

Try 34 it might work!

(Dürer's Magic Square)
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