How can I 'have' a 'god'? What does 'god' mean to you?
Are all the descriptions of 'god' in all 'holy books/writings' identical? Are all interpretations of said descriptions identical by all people? Is it possible that people have their own individual concepts that they use the word 'god' for?
'God' is just a word. It may have very many meanings for very many different people.
Unless you ask someone to define, or describe what the word 'god' means to them, you have nothing to dismiss, or disprove.
You're leaping forward with prejudice if you try and dismiss, or disprove that which has not been defined, or described. Prejudice is the antithesis of science and logic.
What has that organ got to do with Bodleing's description of love? :confusion:
As I understand philosophical debate, you need to start with a premiss. That relies upon being able to define, or describe the constituent parts of your premiss.
Unless you can indicate what you mean by 'god', 'love', 'hate', or whatever, your argument is a non-starter.
Once you have established your premiss, your argument should follow in a logical sequence, defining, or describing each new piece of information and it's link with the last.
I'm finding your premisses false and your arguments non-sequential. If I ask for clarification, you appear to bypass my questions.
What are you arguing against, specifically? Only it sounds like you have (understandable) objections to certain aspects of organised religion, power and corruption.
I'm not sure that covers all concepts of 'god', though.
What if I were to define 'god' as a state of personal being which people attempt to attain? What if 'god' is to do with higher consciousness, humanity, or other such things? Could you present evidence that this concept, or goal doesn't exist?
I don't feel the need to read the Quran to be able to talk and relate to Muslim people anymore than I need to read the Bible to be able to talk and relate to Christian people.
People are people, their interpretations of holy books and their ways of thinking, feeling and behaving may vary widely.
I imagine you're feeling pretty thirsty during this hot, dry season of Ramadan, so I look forward to sunset for you and my fasting friends.
I asked you if prejudice was logical and you said "Yes".
What original question of mine are you referring to?
Sorry, my mistake, I thought you were the thread author.
And I ask you again, what is 'god' that you say doesn't exist? What is the evidence that 'god' (whatever you think 'god' is) doesn't exist? What exactly are you refuting?
Scientific methodology cannot prove things to be true, only disprove things, or indicate statistical probabilities. It doesn't matter how many times you test, or repeat, technically nothing can be proven as true by science.
If you're only convinced by fact and not fantasy, why when I asked if prejudice was logical did you answer...
Prejudice means to prejudge without all the information required to evaluate accurately and so is a product of fantasy. You're contradicting yourself.
But you're asking other people to put forward arguments. Why?
Btw, what do you mean by 'god' when you state 'there is no god'?
Most men describe the colour turquoise as blue, whilst most women describe it as green/blue.
That's because women tend to have better colour perception than men.
There are variations in colour perception from none to very acute along a continuum (but most people lumped in the middle). I can identify different pigments in a paint, or piece of fabric that I know other people can't see - they look confused when I describe a colour as they only see some basic blend.
Our perceptions are our own, but we label them for the purpose of communication. There is no wrong, or right perception. You can't tell others they are seeing a colour right, or wrong: they see it how they see it.
One person might have a 'concrete' perception of 'god' like a superior being. Another person's perception of 'god' might be to do with 'love', an appreciation of the wonders of nature, or whatever.
I wonder what perceptions of 'atheism' might be, that we might propose our best argument for it. It all sounds a bit airy fairy to me.
There are variations along a continuum in the way each of us perceives colour. Talking of colour blindness and non-colour blindness is too much of an absolute to properly describe colour perception.
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RE: can you be a muslim and british?
It's the way you tell 'em.