Hawaii; how some of us survived the Tsunami part 2 (17)
johnaustin123: (Check part 1 to get caught up with our solution)
We are angry because we should be taking care of Japan in a humanitarian effort instead of involvement in the Middle East.
Nations in the Middle East have been fighting for Centuries. It is all about Oil.
For many years, the US has been looked down on because of aggression and the arrogance of Policing the world.
As the old saying goes; "The more things change, the more they remain the same".
New developments show:
1) Traces of radiation have now been found in rainwater across 11 US States. Today, Ohio Nuclear facilities (Nuclear plants in Perry and Port Clinton) discovered this.
2) A frightening report just came out of Scotland, UK, saying that they have found the same.
3) Plutonium is surrounding soil around the Nuclear Plant, and spreading to Ocean.
...China has just reported the same thing:
The China Syndrome
They have also found traces of radiation in Oxford England but its just like normal background radiation.We are angry because we should be taking care of Japan in a humanitarian effort instead of involvement in the Middle East.
Nations in the Middle East have been fighting for Centuries. It is all about Oil.
For many years, the US has been looked down on because of aggression and the arrogance of Policing the world.
As the old saying goes; "The more things change, the more they remain the same".
New developments show:
1) Traces of radiation have now been found in rainwater across 11 US States. Today, Ohio Nuclear facilities (Nuclear plants in Perry and Port Clinton) discovered this.
2) A frightening report just came out of Scotland, UK, saying that they have found the same.
3) Plutonium is surrounding soil around the Nuclear Plant, and spreading to Ocean.
...China has just reported the same thing:
The China Syndrome
As for Japan they need all the help the world can give, but also so do the people of libya, who could be massacred at any moment this is whats called being internationalist by intervening
Hi John good to see you have a new thread up and running TC
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There's plenty of radiation in Devon and Cornwall in England, but aparently it comes from the granite rocks.
As for fighting for oil for hundreds of years, check when oil came into the frame.
As for fighting for oil for hundreds of years, check when oil came into the frame.
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Some of you may be asking why I’m so interested with Nuclear Plant Facilities…because I was in one.
I can document this. In 1989, I worked for a security camera company; Industrial Video out of Lorain, Ohio. We were contracted to install a security camera at the CEI Nuclear Plant in Perry, Ohio.
All we knew was that it was a new technology involving a hidden camera in a fogged dome mounted on the ceiling. It was very difficult to get through security.
Here is a lesson about Nuclear Power Plants:
We thought that we would be taken directly to the Plant Control room. What we discovered was that we were taken to a simulation room where employees were trained. This was in a different building from main control.
This simulation room is an exact duplicate of the real one, right down to the wallpaper on the walls. All of the switches are inactive because it is a training facility. The hidden camera was to watch how trainees would react in a Nuclear Crises.
I will post this song again:
Barry McGuire - Eve of Destruction
I can document this. In 1989, I worked for a security camera company; Industrial Video out of Lorain, Ohio. We were contracted to install a security camera at the CEI Nuclear Plant in Perry, Ohio.
All we knew was that it was a new technology involving a hidden camera in a fogged dome mounted on the ceiling. It was very difficult to get through security.
Here is a lesson about Nuclear Power Plants:
We thought that we would be taken directly to the Plant Control room. What we discovered was that we were taken to a simulation room where employees were trained. This was in a different building from main control.
This simulation room is an exact duplicate of the real one, right down to the wallpaper on the walls. All of the switches are inactive because it is a training facility. The hidden camera was to watch how trainees would react in a Nuclear Crises.
I will post this song again:
Barry McGuire - Eve of Destruction
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tomcatwarneYou are correct...oil did not come onto the scene until the 20th Century. May I ask? Why were they fighting before oil in the past?
Oil is a modern day excuse to fight in the Middle East. I believe that the people of the Middle East have always wanted world respect and individual freedom from tyrants like Kaddafi.
They must make this choosing on their own, which is what they are now trying to do. They have to make this decision for themselves, without outside influences.
The Middle East - Blood (HQ Video)
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johnaustin123: tomcatwarne
You are correct...oil did not come onto the scene until the 20th Century. May I ask? Why were they fighting before oil in the past?
Oil is a modern day excuse to fight in the Middle East. I believe that the people of the Middle East have always wanted world respect and individual freedom from tyrants like Kaddafi.
They must make this choosing on their own, which is what they are now trying to do. They have to make this decision for themselves, without outside influences.
The Middle East - Blood (HQ Video)
actually Early and Mid-19th Century,and even earlier!You are correct...oil did not come onto the scene until the 20th Century. May I ask? Why were they fighting before oil in the past?
Oil is a modern day excuse to fight in the Middle East. I believe that the people of the Middle East have always wanted world respect and individual freedom from tyrants like Kaddafi.
They must make this choosing on their own, which is what they are now trying to do. They have to make this decision for themselves, without outside influences.
The Middle East - Blood (HQ Video)
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Conrad73You did some digging to find that link!
It was a little different in the USA. Oil was not found until almost the turn of the Century...in Ohio and Pennsylvania.
There was no real oil drilling for a while because the surface shale they found oil in was easy to access. Drilling began a few years later and the company call Standard Oil was spawned.
Standard Oil was owned by the Rockefellers...that is how they got so rich. They were out of Cleveland, Ohio.
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johnaustin123: Conrad73
You did some digging to find that link!
It was a little different in the USA. Oil was not found until almost the turn of the Century...in Ohio and Pennsylvania.
There was no real oil drilling for a while because the surface shale they found oil in was easy to access. Drilling began a few years later and the company call Standard Oil was spawned.
Standard Oil was owned by the Rockefellers...that is how they got so rich. They were out of Cleveland, Ohio.
You did some digging to find that link!
It was a little different in the USA. Oil was not found until almost the turn of the Century...in Ohio and Pennsylvania.
There was no real oil drilling for a while because the surface shale they found oil in was easy to access. Drilling began a few years later and the company call Standard Oil was spawned.
Standard Oil was owned by the Rockefellers...that is how they got so rich. They were out of Cleveland, Ohio.
Early crude production
in the U.S. Year Volume
1859 2,000 barrels (~270 t)
1869 4,215,000 barrels (~5.750×10^5 t)
1879 19,914,146 barrels (~2.717×10^6 t)
1889 35,163,513 barrels (~4.797×10^6 t)
1899 57,084,428 barrels (~7.788×10^6 t)
1906 126,493,936 barrels (~1.726×10^7 t)
all from my Link!
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If it was not oil,Gas or some other commodity people will always find a reason to have wars, thats human nature and it stinks 
IMHO
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Conrad73When the US went into Iraq in 1991, I really started to research oil and how it influenced our recent Wars.
In WW2, the war with Germany really pinnacled our world dependence on oil. The main attack on Germany by the allied troops was to destroy the oil reserves of Germany, and we succeeded. German forces could not travel their tanks anywhere.
The US and allied forces were smarter. We protected our gasoline from attacks. In many history books, it points as this move by the allied forces as winning the war with Germany.
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I want you all to look at this report. It's going on 3 days old, but this is informative:
(Remember what we said...scrub down with soap and water)
BREAKING NEWS - Japan Nuclear Plant Radiation R...
The Firm - Radioactive
(Remember what we said...scrub down with soap and water)
BREAKING NEWS - Japan Nuclear Plant Radiation R...
The Firm - Radioactive
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johnaustin123: (Check part 1 to get caught up with our solution)
We are angry because we should be taking care of Japan in a humanitarian effort instead of involvement in the Middle East.
Nations in the Middle East have been fighting for Centuries. It is all about Oil.
For many years, the US has been looked down on because of aggression and the arrogance of Policing the world.
As the old saying goes; "The more things change, the more they remain the same".
New developments show:
1) Traces of radiation have now been found in rainwater across 11 US States. Today, Ohio Nuclear facilities (Nuclear plants in Perry and Port Clinton) discovered this.
2) A frightening report just came out of Scotland, UK, saying that they have found the same.
3) Plutonium is surrounding soil around the Nuclear Plant, and spreading to Ocean.
...China has just reported the same thing:
The China Syndrome
We are angry because we should be taking care of Japan in a humanitarian effort instead of involvement in the Middle East.
Nations in the Middle East have been fighting for Centuries. It is all about Oil.
For many years, the US has been looked down on because of aggression and the arrogance of Policing the world.
As the old saying goes; "The more things change, the more they remain the same".
New developments show:
1) Traces of radiation have now been found in rainwater across 11 US States. Today, Ohio Nuclear facilities (Nuclear plants in Perry and Port Clinton) discovered this.
2) A frightening report just came out of Scotland, UK, saying that they have found the same.
3) Plutonium is surrounding soil around the Nuclear Plant, and spreading to Ocean.
...China has just reported the same thing:
The China Syndrome
yeh Its a tough one have tp say if japan falters it will be bad for the USA
as for the radiation damn thats bad
sigh
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Japan has now increased the radioactive level to about 3300 times the legal limit in the surrounding Pacific ocean waters. About a 12 mile radius.
These peaceful and loving people of Japan deserve better. Again, our first priority should have been to help the Japanese people.
They are crying my friends, because we did not come their aid first. We instead went into Libya.
David may have said it best in these songs:
3 Pink Floyd Hits! 3 HD Virtual Flights! Hey You-Wish You Were Here-Comfortably Numb- Earth Sun Mars
These peaceful and loving people of Japan deserve better. Again, our first priority should have been to help the Japanese people.
They are crying my friends, because we did not come their aid first. We instead went into Libya.
David may have said it best in these songs:
3 Pink Floyd Hits! 3 HD Virtual Flights! Hey You-Wish You Were Here-Comfortably Numb- Earth Sun Mars
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johnaustin123: Some of you may be asking why I’m so interested with Nuclear Plant Facilities…because I was in one.
I can document this. In 1989, I worked for a security camera company; Industrial Video out of Lorain, Ohio. We were contracted to install a security camera at the CEI Nuclear Plant in Perry, Ohio.
All we knew was that it was a new technology involving a hidden camera in a fogged dome mounted on the ceiling. It was very difficult to get through security.
Here is a lesson about Nuclear Power Plants:
We thought that we would be taken directly to the Plant Control room. What we discovered was that we were taken to a simulation room where employees were trained. This was in a different building from main control.
This simulation room is an exact duplicate of the real one, right down to the wallpaper on the walls. All of the switches are inactive because it is a training facility. The hidden camera was to watch how trainees would react in a Nuclear Crises.
I will post this song again:
Barry McGuire - Eve of Destruction
I can document this. In 1989, I worked for a security camera company; Industrial Video out of Lorain, Ohio. We were contracted to install a security camera at the CEI Nuclear Plant in Perry, Ohio.
All we knew was that it was a new technology involving a hidden camera in a fogged dome mounted on the ceiling. It was very difficult to get through security.
Here is a lesson about Nuclear Power Plants:
We thought that we would be taken directly to the Plant Control room. What we discovered was that we were taken to a simulation room where employees were trained. This was in a different building from main control.
This simulation room is an exact duplicate of the real one, right down to the wallpaper on the walls. All of the switches are inactive because it is a training facility. The hidden camera was to watch how trainees would react in a Nuclear Crises.
I will post this song again:
Barry McGuire - Eve of Destruction
thats weird why have a dummy plant? did they knwo you were putting one in?
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It was a mystery with what we found Torley
I would imagine that most Nuclear Plants function in this manner around the world.
Much to accept that what we saw was training.
Question?
Did Japan follow the same procedures?
I would imagine that most Nuclear Plants function in this manner around the world.
Much to accept that what we saw was training.
Question?
Did Japan follow the same procedures?
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Somehow animals and birds sense this before us. New technology, being used in Japan, is able to give people a 30 second or a minute to find safety.
Some Scientist believed that this is tied somehow to our Lunar cycles.
Some Scientist believed that this is tied somehow to our Lunar cycles.
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Transparency:
Dateline by Eve Zibel | March 30, 2011
"President Obama received an award for his transparency in government on Monday, but you'd never know it because the press wasn't there to witness the meeting".
Dateline (2011-03-30) (REUTERS) –
Obama has signed secret documents like this before without consent of Congress and knowledge of the American people. What makes you think that he hasn’t done this in the recent past without our knowing about Special Forces in Libya?
"President Barack Obama has signed a secret order authorizing covert U.S. government support for rebel forces seeking to oust Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, government officials told Reuters on Wednesday".
"Such findings are a principal form of presidential directive used to authorize secret operations by the Central Intelligence Agency".
The US and other food organizations today sent $2 million dollars to Japan for relief efforts (Food and temporary shelter) while the US has now spent about $50 BILLION in Libya. It doesn’t make sense to me. It should be excactly the opposite.
Dateline by Eve Zibel | March 30, 2011
"President Obama received an award for his transparency in government on Monday, but you'd never know it because the press wasn't there to witness the meeting".
Dateline (2011-03-30) (REUTERS) –
Obama has signed secret documents like this before without consent of Congress and knowledge of the American people. What makes you think that he hasn’t done this in the recent past without our knowing about Special Forces in Libya?
"President Barack Obama has signed a secret order authorizing covert U.S. government support for rebel forces seeking to oust Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, government officials told Reuters on Wednesday".
"Such findings are a principal form of presidential directive used to authorize secret operations by the Central Intelligence Agency".
The US and other food organizations today sent $2 million dollars to Japan for relief efforts (Food and temporary shelter) while the US has now spent about $50 BILLION in Libya. It doesn’t make sense to me. It should be excactly the opposite.
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We are angry because we should be taking care of Japan in a humanitarian effort instead of involvement in the Middle East.
Nations in the Middle East have been fighting for Centuries. It is all about Oil.
For many years, the US has been looked down on because of aggression and the arrogance of Policing the world.
As the old saying goes; "The more things change, the more they remain the same".
New developments show:
1) Traces of radiation have now been found in rainwater across 11 US States. Today, Ohio Nuclear facilities (Nuclear plants in Perry and Port Clinton) discovered this.
2) A frightening report just came out of Scotland, UK, saying that they have found the same.
3) Plutonium is surrounding soil around the Nuclear Plant, and spreading to Ocean.
...China has just reported the same thing:
The China Syndrome