Hardly any great news for anyone updated with European politics,but as Cecilia Malmström,(high commissioner for Human Rights),time&again says:"We need,to sustain the welfare state,a steady immigration from non-European countries"
Between 2010-2050,the estimated need is 50-56 million Africans,-for the sole purpose,-to save the welfare nations,and due to low birth rates among Europeans,-this is needed.....And this is of course only Africa,-the rest is not included...
Sounds cute indeed,but with a declining labour market,outsourced as well,-is this needed?
With a rationalised,slimmed labour market,does it make sense...
Doesn´t low fertlity rates compare pretty well with the declining job market?
Or is this a sign of where the West is heading,-to a lowcost,low salary region...
Because absolutely,nothing shows this is for the better,-in contrary,-as the Danish survey showed:"People from the undeveloped countries,and their children costs the Danes 16 billion,(Danish currency),annually...,"While immigrants from developed countries contributes with 4,7 billion a year"....
We're all skeptics, for good reason. The leftards have decided that while all other people's have a right to their culture, religion, and way of life, we evil westerners do not. There is no justification for current immigration levels. Welfare states, as opposed to taking care of the needy, have destroyed our countries. People are more inclined to have pets and remain children themselves. We are basically importing poverty, and in some cases, a hostile culture as things stand now.
AtwoZ: Hardly any great news for anyone updated with European politics,but as Cecilia Malmström,(high commissioner for Human Rights),time&again says:"We need,to sustain the welfare state,a steady immigration from non-European countries"
Between 2010-2050,the estimated need is 50-56 million Africans,-for the sole purpose,-to save the welfare nations,and due to low birth rates among Europeans,-this is needed.....And this is of course only Africa,-the rest is not included...
Sounds cute indeed,but with a declining labour market,outsourced as well,-is this needed?
With a rationalised,slimmed labour market,does it make sense...
Doesn´t low fertlity rates compare pretty well with the declining job market?
Or is this a sign of where the West is heading,-to a lowcost,low salary region...
Because absolutely,nothing shows this is for the better,-in contrary,-as the Danish survey showed:"People from the undeveloped countries,and their children costs the Danes 16 billion,(Danish currency),annually...,"While immigrants from developed countries contributes with 4,7 billion a year"....
So,is Europe changing face...I don´t know,but I´m sceptic....
The Mankind orignated in Africa - They have propogated the Human race in the entire world . I dont see a reason for you to say save Europe just because you see some dark skins there . The world belongs to all .
bollywood: The Mankind orignated in Africa - They have propogated the Human race in the entire world . I dont see a reason for you to say save Europe just because you see some dark skins there . The world belongs to all .
bollywood: The Mankind orignated in Africa - They have propogated the Human race in the entire world . I dont see a reason for you to say save Europe just because you see some dark skins there . The world belongs to all .
Bolly, why is everything about race? Culture is far more important, as well the reasons why people emigrate. If it's just to receive benefits, then the effort isn't worth it, as all of our countries have enough unemployed and/or shiftless to support now. Besides, if the Indian population was almost extinct, I doubt you'd be so smug in your views.
BebeII: Bolly, why is everything about race? Culture is far more important, as well the reasons why people emigrate. If it's just to receive benefits, then the effort isn't worth it, as all of our countries have enough unemployed and/or shiftless to support now. Besides, if the Indian population was almost extinct, I doubt you'd be so smug in your views.
Exactly,-has nothing to do with "race",rather labourmarket,unemployment,or to be more precise,-economy....
There´s reasons why Swedes are emigrating on a big scale,-lack of jobs is one great factor..and nothing shows that there will be a better jobmarket in the future to come,-in contrary...
AtwoZ: Exactly,-has nothing to do with "race",rather labourmarket,unemployment,or to be more precise,-economy....
There´s reasons why Swedes are emigrating on a big scale,-lack of jobs is one great factor..and nothing shows that there will be a better jobmarket in the future to come,-in contrary...
Exactly-It's as if the pro-immigration people want more relief/welfare recipients to justify continued services for their own jobs. I'd rather see people working and bettering their lives.
AtwoZ: Exactly,-has nothing to do with "race",rather labourmarket,unemployment,or to be more precise,-economy....
There´s reasons why Swedes are emigrating on a big scale,-lack of jobs is one great factor..and nothing shows that there will be a better jobmarket in the future to come,-in contrary...
The world cannot be veiwd in isolation . Nowadays the world is a big single market . The companies in Europe exists to operate because they are able to sell their product outside the europe or US. World will have a common culture soon, all the far right protectionism will stop to exist. both commodity and job markets should be open to all. so that anyone can work anywhere in the world if they have the right qualification and anyone can sell in any market if they have the right commodity . There is no single culture available for any country no matter its India or the US. those who are worrying about the culture have some other agenda.
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
bollywood: The world cannot be veiwd in isolation . Nowadays the world is a big single market . The companies in Europe exists to operate because they are able to sell their product outside the europe or US. World will have a common culture soon, all the far right protectionism will stop to exist. both commodity and job markets should be open to all. so that anyone can work anywhere in the world if they have the right qualification and anyone can sell in any market if they have the right commodity . There is no single culture available for any country no matter its India or the US. those who are worrying about the culture have some other agenda.
Obviously the immigrants in question are not bringing anything of the sort to their new countries as Atwo has stated they are costing billions more than they bring in.
bollywood: There is no single culture available for any country no matter its India or the US. those who are worrying about the culture have some other agenda.
Nobody here is worried about culture or race except you.
Albertaghost: Obviously the immigrants in question are not bringing anything of the sort to their new countries as Atwo has stated they are costing billions more than they bring in. Nobody here is worried about culture or race except you.
If the immigrants bring something or other doesnt matter . Its the way things are going to be moved . You cannot stop it . People are going to mingle and you just cannot stop it .
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
bollywood: If the immigrants bring something or other doesnt matter .
If they bring nothing then they can be refused entry and sjhuts down your little contention that 'people are going to mingle' pretty fast.
bollywood: Its the way things are going to be moved . You cannot stop it . People are going to mingle and you just cannot stop it .
Being granted citizenship of a nation is hardly what anybody but you would call 'mingle.' In any case, being given citizenship simply because you want it is not an overriding factor for immigration in most countries.
Sides, what happened to your contention of;
"both commodity and job markets should be open to all. so that anyone can work anywhere in the world if they have the right qualification and anyone can sell in any market if they have the right commodity ."
It seems to have died a quick death in the face of your immigrants being mostly unskilled and having little to offer a prospective nation.
BebeII: Bolly, why is everything about race? Culture is far more important, as well the reasons why people emigrate. If it's just to receive benefits, then the effort isn't worth it, as all of our countries have enough unemployed and/or shiftless to support now. Besides, if the Indian population was almost extinct, I doubt you'd be so smug in your views.
To him,everything is! Not exactly a sign of a selfsufficient Human Being! I really wonder sometimes why in every Thread he has to play the Racecard! Getting tiresome! You could talk about fishing,and he'd arrive with a baited Racehook!
bollywood: The world cannot be veiwd in isolation . Nowadays the world is a big single market . The companies in Europe exists to operate because they are able to sell their product outside the europe or US. World will have a common culture soon, all the far right protectionism will stop to exist. both commodity and job markets should be open to all. so that anyone can work anywhere in the world if they have the right qualification and anyone can sell in any market if they have the right commodity . There is no single culture available for any country no matter its India or the US. those who are worrying about the culture have some other agenda.
You must be joking. The only protectionist agenda's here are held by the Democrats. Get an education. There will never be a one world culture. Kant is dead.
Conrad73: To him,everything is! Not exactly a sign of a selfsufficient Human Being! I really wonder sometimes why in every Thread he has to play the Racecard! Getting tiresome! You could talk about fishing,and he'd arrive with a baited Racehook!
Hi Conrad! Hope all is well with you! I know what you mean about certain people-They are called "racers".
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Between 2010-2050,the estimated need is 50-56 million Africans,-for the sole purpose,-to save the welfare nations,and due to low birth rates among Europeans,-this is needed.....And this is of course only Africa,-the rest is not included...
Sounds cute indeed,but with a declining labour market,outsourced as well,-is this needed?
With a rationalised,slimmed labour market,does it make sense...
Doesn´t low fertlity rates compare pretty well with the declining job market?
Or is this a sign of where the West is heading,-to a lowcost,low salary region...
Because absolutely,nothing shows this is for the better,-in contrary,-as the Danish survey showed:"People from the undeveloped countries,and their children costs the Danes 16 billion,(Danish currency),annually...,"While immigrants from developed countries contributes with 4,7 billion a year"....
So,is Europe changing face...
I don´t know,but I´m sceptic....