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May 9, 2011 11:30 AM CST is it true......
matchbox
matchboxmatchboxbalzan, Majjistral Malta134 Threads 1 Polls 635 Posts
Is it true that every war that occurs is because of religion beliefs? or its just an excuse to start a war?
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May 9, 2011 11:35 AM CST is it true......
matchbox: Is it true that every war that occurs is because of religion beliefs? or its just an excuse to start a war?




If men want to oppose war, it is statism that they must oppose. So long as they hold the tribal notion that the individual is sacrificial fodder for the collective, that some men have the right to rule others by force, and that some (any) alleged “good” can justify it—there can be no peace within a nation and no peace among nations.

Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal “The Roots of War,...........
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May 9, 2011 11:47 AM CST is it true......
gardenhackle
gardenhacklegardenhackleStratford, Connecticut USA55 Threads 9 Polls 2,067 Posts
matchbox: Is it true that every war that occurs is because of religion beliefs? or its just an excuse to start a war?


No, it's not true that every war that occurs is because of religious beliefs. Saddam didn't invade Kuwait because of either his or Kuwait's religion and that's just a relatively recent and widely known example that should have dispelled that theory offhand.

All you have to do is ask yourself if there were any wars ever started for any other reason than religion and it shouldn't take you long to find some very noteworthy examples of wars for land, wars for water rights, wars for mineral rights, wars for trading rights, wars over taxation, political philosophies, etc. etc. etc.
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May 9, 2011 11:54 AM CST is it true......
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
gardenhackle: No, it's not true that every war that occurs is because of religious beliefs. Saddam didn't invade Kuwait because of either his or Kuwait's religion and that's just a relatively recent and widely known example that should have dispelled that theory offhand.

All you have to do is ask yourself if there were any wars ever started for any other reason than religion and it shouldn't take you long to find some very noteworthy examples of wars for land, wars for water rights, wars for mineral rights, wars for trading rights, wars over taxation, political philosophies, etc. etc. etc.


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I cannot think of any war started for religious reasons to tell the truth. Even the Crusades and Muslim Conquests had money, power and influence at the heart of them.
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May 9, 2011 12:06 PM CST is it true......
optomistic68
optomistic68optomistic68Craigavon, Antrim Ireland23 Threads 826 Posts
matchbox: Is it true that every war that occurs is because of religion beliefs? or its just an excuse to start a war?



NO
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May 9, 2011 12:07 PM CST is it true......
optomistic68
optomistic68optomistic68Craigavon, Antrim Ireland23 Threads 826 Posts
Albertaghost: I cannot think of any war started for religious reasons to tell the truth. Even the Crusades and Muslim Conquests had money, power and influence at the heart of them.


At Last something we can agree on.cheering
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May 9, 2011 12:11 PM CST is it true......
Frankinstien
FrankinstienFrankinstienSan Juan, Puerto Rico1 Threads 1,521 Posts
Albertaghost: I cannot think of any war started for religious reasons to tell the truth. Even the Crusades and Muslim Conquests had money, power and influence at the heart of them.
They may not have activly started them but each party claims to have God on there side !
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May 9, 2011 12:12 PM CST is it true......
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
optomistic68: At Last something we can agree on.


Then I must be wrong about this one then.rolling on the floor laughing
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May 9, 2011 12:17 PM CST is it true......
Frankinstien
FrankinstienFrankinstienSan Juan, Puerto Rico1 Threads 1,521 Posts
Albertaghost: I cannot think of any war started for religious reasons to tell the truth. Even the Crusades and Muslim Conquests had money, power and influence at the heart of them.
A second thought was, Money, and power, and influence. That sounds like all the religions I ever heard of .
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May 9, 2011 12:18 PM CST is it true......
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
Frankinstien: They may not have activly started them but each party claims to have God on there side !


Exactly Franky the whole "my god is bigger than your god" dogma roll eyes
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May 9, 2011 12:19 PM CST is it true......
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Frankinstien: A second thought was, Money, and power, and influence. That sounds like all the religions I ever heard of .


You have a good point however, I suppose the qualifications for them being a religion or a cult could also be argued.
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May 9, 2011 12:25 PM CST is it true......
gardenhackle
gardenhacklegardenhackleStratford, Connecticut USA55 Threads 9 Polls 2,067 Posts
Frankinstien: They may not have activly started them but each party claims to have God on there side !


True on the Crusades and Muslim conquests, but not true in a number of other wars.
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May 9, 2011 12:26 PM CST is it true......
gardenhackle
gardenhacklegardenhackleStratford, Connecticut USA55 Threads 9 Polls 2,067 Posts
venusenvy: Exactly Franky the whole "my god is bigger than your god" dogma


I think it was George Carlin that said wars over religion amounted to people killing each other over an argument about who had the best invisible friend.
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May 9, 2011 12:52 PM CST is it true......
Frankinstien
FrankinstienFrankinstienSan Juan, Puerto Rico1 Threads 1,521 Posts
venusenvy: Exactly Franky the whole "my god is bigger than your god" dogma
Hay now! My God can beat your God And I have just the army to prove it . . . tongue tongue tongue .. . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . .PS: all my dead soldiers will go to heaven and all of yours will go to " you know where " .
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May 9, 2011 1:07 PM CST is it true......
matchbox: Is it true that every war that occurs is because of religion beliefs? or its just an excuse to start a war?
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May 9, 2011 10:15 PM CST is it true......
marielf
marielfmarielfSan Ramon, Alajuela, Alajuela Costa Rica2 Threads 25 Posts
Go Franky Go!

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