President or Commonwealth Queen/King: Who is more a monarch. ( Archived) (4)

Aug 18, 2011 5:36 PM CST President or Commonwealth Queen/King: Who is more a monarch.
Foxxie
FoxxieFoxxieBrisbane, Queensland Australia40 Threads 7 Polls 276 Posts
This is not a thread relating to any individual. It's not about Obama, Bush or Elizabeth II. It is also not intended to be any kind of 'My nation is a better nation than your' thread.

Rather it is related to the 'Station' of President of the United States and 'King/Queen' of the respective member Kingdoms of the Commonwealth. Please ignore that in some of those nations the head of state is not actually called a King or Queen and is actually called a 'First Admiral' or 'Sea Baron' or whatever.

The question as above;

Which station (Be it US President or Commonwealth Queen/King) is more closely related to a Monarch.

I think this could be an interesting one to discuss. Especially given that the US President has actual powers and can act against the wishes of a more recently elected government of another political party whereas the Commonwealth Queen/King is a party-neutral representation of the Crown, with all the Crowns powers in most Commonwealth nations constitutionally residing in the hands of the elected Parliament.

Would be interested to hear peoples thoughts on this.
Once again - this is not a nation or national leader bashing exercise.
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Aug 18, 2011 5:43 PM CST President or Commonwealth Queen/King: Who is more a monarch.
bestbefore
bestbeforebestbeforesomewhere, Dorset, England UK116 Threads 2 Polls 4,701 Posts
Foxxie: This is not a thread relating to any individual. It's not about Obama, Bush or Elizabeth II. It is also not intended to be any kind of 'My nation is a better nation than your' thread.

Rather it is related to the 'Station' of President of the United States and 'King/Queen' of the respective member Kingdoms of the Commonwealth. Please ignore that in some of those nations the head of state is not actually called a King or Queen and is actually called a 'First Admiral' or 'Sea Baron' or whatever.

The question as above;

Which station (Be it US President or Commonwealth Queen/King) is more closely related to a Monarch.

I think this could be an interesting one to discuss. Especially given that the US President has actual powers and can act against the wishes of a more recently elected government of another political party whereas the Commonwealth Queen/King is a party-neutral representation of the Crown, with all the Crowns powers in most Commonwealth nations constitutionally residing in the hands of the elected Parliament.

Would be interested to hear peoples thoughts on this.
Once again - this is not a nation or national leader bashing exercise.



Not quite understanding just where you are going with this threadconfused

A monarchy is a government which usually lasts until the head of said government dies,and even then, the position is usually hereditary,as in the Head of the U.K. being our Queen,who will be replaced by Charles or William.

Cannot imagine the American government standing for that.
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Aug 18, 2011 5:51 PM CST President or Commonwealth Queen/King: Who is more a monarch.
grizzwald
grizzwaldgrizzwaldalexandra bay, New York USA12 Threads 1,151 Posts
bestbefore: Not quite understanding just where you are going with this thread

A monarchy is a government which usually lasts until the head of said government dies,and even then, the position is usually hereditary,as in the Head of the U.K. being our Queen,who will be replaced by Charles or William.

Cannot imagine the American government standing for that.
nor does the Pres. have the last say inacting laws either.....if he vetos ....it can go back to the houses and a 2/3 majority I believe will still pass the law
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Aug 18, 2011 5:52 PM CST President or Commonwealth Queen/King: Who is more a monarch.
grizzwald
grizzwaldgrizzwaldalexandra bay, New York USA12 Threads 1,151 Posts
grizzwald: nor does the Pres. have the last say inacting laws either.....if he vetos ....it can go back to the houses and a 2/3 majority I believe will still pass the law
nor can he declare war without I believe congress backing
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