Misleading or what? (81)

Aug 19, 2011 4:47 AM CST Misleading or what?
Envy51
Envy51Envy51Meath, Ireland66 Threads 4 Polls 1,631 Posts
Envy51: Are you the type of person who makes a judgement of another person, male or female on your first meeting with them?
I am asking this question because, while i am full of guff on here and when you get to know me (ask anyone on here who has meet me a few times)............... At first i am very shy and standoffish to a point where some people think i am a snob. I am not, i am just painfuly shy .........!!!!!!!!!!! Does anyone else suffer ( and i use the word SUFFER because i do) from being shy and what do you do to overcome it?


Sorry i should have added these words .............At first
Aug 19, 2011 5:09 AM CST Misleading or what?
Envy51
Envy51Envy51Meath, Ireland66 Threads 4 Polls 1,631 Posts
johneire31: I know exactly what you mean here, i used to treat this condition and it is a condition with alcohol, not a good idea. I bet you work well with certain types of people who are more 'out going' but don't invade your space either, people with a bit of cop on and understanding. A doctor would call this General Anxiety Disoder or Social Anxiety Disorder and probaly put you on valuim or something to calm you down or refer you to head doctor.

I have it mildly, so I take nothing, kinda force myself into uncomfortable senarios its meant to help. check out CBT on google, its mean't to be very good if you get a good skrink or practioner.

the whole thing is based on the fight or flight response in humans, a response we don't need today to that extent. We become protective and our bodies start getting defensive. like small trembles, dry mouth,stutter, shaky voice, sweating more, our nervous system becomes hyper sensitive as a protective mechinism for our survival. it over reacts to the situation.

In CBT, your taught to recognise and to 'rehearse' certain common life situations, your shown a sequence of techniques you use to counter act the bodies responses, over time these become very natural and you automatically deal with the situations easier, that the theory anyways, have a good google. Watch the Kings Speech, a true story of the present queens father and how he suffered and dealt with it.

on the other side, you have a medicine solution. Drugs like lexepro and lyrica and cymbalta are drugs used to treat anxiety of various origin. They are not addictive but some of them have a discontinuation senario to them, you just can't stop taking instantly when you want you have to reduce the dose over time. I have two friends who are on them and they report a massive improvemnet to their lifestyle, I can't say for sure.

But one thing i can say is this condition is dibilating, isolating, and causes severe stress, nobody needs to live like this, and I feel today you don't have to cos help is there, probably start with you doctor and see from there. there is no harm in trying anything, if it doesn't work or is not for you, you can always go back to they way you are now.

Nothing in this post is intended as medical advice or to replace medical advice, you doctor should be consulted in the first instance, everything above is my own opinion and may not be right for you.




Thank you for you post handshake but i have to say i think you are taking my shyness to the level of an anxiety disorder without any knowledge of me.......... !!!!!

While every persons input on the forums is welcome, i think you should read the question that i posted and answer that and not a question that YOU think i asked..................... a lot of people may say i am saying this because i do not like your answer, it is not that, i just think your answer is way over the mark of the question i asked ........!!!!!!!! Opinions please?
Aug 19, 2011 5:09 AM CST Misleading or what?
alijo
alijoalijowexford, Wexford Ireland3 Threads 246 Posts
In response to: Are you the type of person who makes a judgement of another person, male or female on your first meeting with them?
I am asking this question because, while i am full of guff on here and when you get to know me (ask anyone on here who has meet me a few times)............... i am very shy and standoffish to a point where some people think i am a snob. I am not, i am just painfuly shy .........!!!!!!!!!!! Does anyone else suffer ( and i use the word SUFFER because i do) from being shy and what do you do to overcome it?
Im the same, i hate meeting new people for the first time but once i know someone u cant shut me up. i know people have said im a snob, but im far from it ha i think as i have got older it has improved alot but im still shy and i hate it.
Aug 19, 2011 5:11 AM CST Misleading or what?
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
Envy51: I know people can be deceiving Aims but .......................would you be able to tell the difference between a shy person and someone who is acting shy?



Don't be deceived. Many of the people you would regard as extroverts, are at heart deeply shy and nervous. Their way of coping is to unconsciously create an external exuberant personality to keep the world out. You can lose track of who you really are that way.

Your own way of coping is to unconsciously put a wall around yourself and I'm guessing there's times you hate yourself for being that way.

I'll bet if you and Sharina got talking, you'd find that deep down, you're extremely similar.conversing
Aug 19, 2011 5:11 AM CST Misleading or what?
Envy51
Envy51Envy51Meath, Ireland66 Threads 4 Polls 1,631 Posts
Crystal29: Yeah Envy I'm afraid I judge immediately I meet someone....its just my way. When I meet someone then I know right away if they are someone I would want to spend time with or not.....and I usually get it right...I think.....theres no point in wasting anyones time.

I only get really shy when I fancy the pants off someone....


That is when i get totally speechless.........

doh
Aug 19, 2011 5:12 AM CST Misleading or what?
alijo
alijoalijowexford, Wexford Ireland3 Threads 246 Posts
Envy51: Thank you for you post but i have to say i think you are taking my shyness to the level of an anxiety disorder without any knowledge of me.......... !!!!!

While every persons input on the forums is welcome, i think you should read the question that i posted and answer that and not a question that YOU think i asked..................... a lot of people may say i am saying this because i do not like your answer, it is not that, i just think your answer is way over the mark of the question i asked ........!!!!!!!! Opinions please?
i agree, just because someone is shy around new people it doesnt mean they have an anxiety disorder
Aug 19, 2011 5:14 AM CST Misleading or what?
itchywitch
itchywitchitchywitchgalway, Galway Ireland6 Threads 171 Posts
Envy51: Sorry i should have added these words .............At first


confusedsometimes i prefare it when some stay in their shelldunno
Aug 19, 2011 5:17 AM CST Misleading or what?
Envy51
Envy51Envy51Meath, Ireland66 Threads 4 Polls 1,631 Posts
Godsgift: Don't be deceived. Many of the people you would regard as extroverts, are at heart deeply shy and nervous. Their way of coping is to unconsciously create an external exuberant personality to keep the world out. You can lose track of who you really are that way.

Your own way of coping is to unconsciously put a wall around yourself and I'm guessing there's times you hate yourself for being that way.

I'll bet if you and Sharina got talking, you'd find that deep down, you're extremely similar.


I think you are absolutely right GG............. i think Sharina and i would have a very similar outlook on life .......... we just have different ways of potraying it conversing
Aug 19, 2011 5:20 AM CST Misleading or what?
Envy51
Envy51Envy51Meath, Ireland66 Threads 4 Polls 1,631 Posts
itchywitch: sometimes i prefare it when some stay in their shell


Are you refering to me or people in general ........ when you say "you prefer it when some in their shell"?
Aug 19, 2011 5:22 AM CST Misleading or what?
Envy51
Envy51Envy51Meath, Ireland66 Threads 4 Polls 1,631 Posts
alijo: i agree, just because someone is shy around new people it doesnt mean they have an anxiety disorder


Thank you .......... me too !!!!!!!!! Welcome to the forums wave


cswelcome
Aug 19, 2011 5:25 AM CST Misleading or what?
Envy51
Envy51Envy51Meath, Ireland66 Threads 4 Polls 1,631 Posts
Envy51: Are you refering to me or people in general ........ when you say "you prefer it when some stay in their shell"?
doh
Aug 19, 2011 5:30 AM CST Misleading or what?
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
Envy51: Thank you .......... me too !!!!!!!!! Welcome to the forums


Oh, and on the topic, yup....I do make judgements on first meeting people and even at one time thought I had a sort of second sight. I'd write people off without a second thought and in the process deprive myself of a potential friendship. Nowadays I'm conscious of this trait.

As for the second sight thing, I was proved to be wrong once too often. The fact is that there are certain parts of my personality that I'm not too comfortable with and I try to hide them both from myself and the rest of the world.

When I run across someone who exhibits these same characteristics, it frightens me and I want to shut them out and that's when I start making all these unfounded judgements. But none of that stuff is part of my thought process. All my head says is either destroy or discredit this person or run away.

GG...a lot done, a lot more to do!laugh
Aug 19, 2011 5:34 AM CST Misleading or what?
Envy51
Envy51Envy51Meath, Ireland66 Threads 4 Polls 1,631 Posts
Godsgift: Oh, and on the topic, yup....I do make judgements on first meeting people and even at one time thought I had a sort of second sight. I'd write people off without a second thought and in the process deprive myself of a potential friendship. Nowadays I'm conscious of this trait.

As for the second sight thing, I was proved to be wrong once too often. The fact is that there are certain parts of my personality that I'm not too comfortable with and I try to hide them both from myself and the rest of the world.

When I run across someone who exhibits these same characteristics, it frightens me and I want to shut them out and that's when I start making all these unfounded judgements. But none of that stuff is part of my thought process. All my head says is either destroy or discredit this person or run away.

GG...a lot done, a lot more to do!



The hard knocks from the school of life GG ..............hug
Aug 19, 2011 5:54 AM CST Misleading or what?
itchywitch
itchywitchitchywitchgalway, Galway Ireland6 Threads 171 Posts
Envy51: Are you refering to me or people in general ........ when you say "you prefer it when some in their shell"?


oh dear, have i said something wrong again???doh
Aug 19, 2011 6:12 AM CST Misleading or what?
Envy51
Envy51Envy51Meath, Ireland66 Threads 4 Polls 1,631 Posts
itchywitch: oh dear, have i said something wrong again???


I have no idea what you problem with me is? So why don`t you just run along and find someone else to be childish with, i am not into tit for tat, cop on and act your age ... adios grin
Aug 19, 2011 6:17 AM CST Misleading or what?
altalkback
altalkbackaltalkbackdublin, Dublin Ireland114 Posts
itchywitch: oh dear, have i said something wrong again???
do u not think u should have a B at the start of ur user name..?????
Aug 19, 2011 6:25 AM CST Misleading or what?
Crystal29
Crystal29Crystal29Glasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK35 Threads 8,448 Posts
Envy51: That is when i get totally speechless.........


well I'm the opposite....I let my mouth run away with me and gibber 20 to the dozen....my memory freezes sometimes and I forget my manners...pinching chips from his plate etc!.... doh

laugh
Aug 19, 2011 6:39 AM CST Misleading or what?
fitandfun79
fitandfun79fitandfun79Laois, Leix Ireland62 Threads 3 Polls 912 Posts
Envy51: Are you the type of person who makes a judgement of another person, male or female on your first meeting with them?
I am asking this question because, while i am full of guff on here and when you get to know me (ask anyone on here who has meet me a few times)............... i am very shy and standoffish to a point where some people think i am a snob. I am not, i am just painfuly shy .........!!!!!!!!!!! Does anyone else suffer ( and i use the word SUFFER because i do) from being shy and what do you do to overcome it?


ok a two parter..:) 1. yes, i judge someone from the moment i meet them. Judge being probably the wrong word. I just instantly know if I 'click' with that person straight away. Wheter it's just some dude I chat to at a bar and could sit drinkin with him for the rest of the night, or some girl I meet and i'll know instantly what kind of relationship i would like with them. Friend, a quick fling, something serious.
I know it sounds weird, but I swear to God, I know from chatting to a woman just for a few minutes how I would like things to pan out between us. (if that makes any sense)
2. I was painfully shy when I was, oh say from a teenager to my mid twenties. But I think that had a lot to do with my own perception of myself. I was a bit dorky and very small for my age when i was young. But as I grew and gained more confidence in myself my shyness disappeared. Although it rears its head now and again, i find it only happens when i see someone who literally stops me in my tracks. Not a 'Oh my God she's a ride' but 'oh my God, she's beautiful'. (again, sorry if that makes no sense).

As for a cure for shyness, I don't know. I just grew out of mine as i became more confident in myself.
Aug 19, 2011 6:51 AM CST Misleading or what?
itchywitch
itchywitchitchywitchgalway, Galway Ireland6 Threads 171 Posts
Envy51: I have no idea what you problem with me is? So why don`t you just run along and find someone else to be childish with, i am not into tit for tat, cop on and act your age ... adios


the reason i asked you have i said something wrong to you again is because it is YOU that seems to have the problem with me as this is your 2nd time you have accused me of implying i was some what judging you but for the 2nd time you are wrong, so less of pointing the finger at me perhaps you should point it to yourself instead scold
i sent two posts on this thread it amazes me how you choose to ignore the one that was obviously directed at you personally yet you choose to reply to the one that was not... why is that confused
i think that it is YOU that has a problem with ME yet your trying to turn it to make it look the other way round... my comment was simple enough to understand and is directed at no one personally ... but as you so choose, you read it what ever way you wish.
Aug 19, 2011 7:07 AM CST Misleading or what?
itchywitch
itchywitchitchywitchgalway, Galway Ireland6 Threads 171 Posts
altalkback: do u not think u should have a B at the start of ur user name..?????


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