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Not disagreeing with you at all cause I know some horror stories about fathers trying to get access.
Its partly because of deadbeat dads that absolve themselves of their responsibilty that these laws are in place. The guy in the thread is a prime example that makes it hard for real fathers.

As a matter of fact a lot of so called single mothers are actualy living with their partners and are receiving welfare while the father brings in a second income to which the government are talking about investigating.

Voluntary work? Overpaid I see?

Shortcomings?,,,,,You mean not wanting to look after a kid I never wanted in the first place?,,,,yeh right, well maybe dumba** women should respect a mans wishes when he says he doesn't want a kid, then there would be a few less unwanted or abused kids around.

You use deception then you accept responsibility, and maybe there would be so many unmarried mums around sponging off welfare if women were more carefull.

Actually Vinny I did in fact follow Child Support Laws in Australia and paid the $10,000 they asked, Indonesia, where I planned to immigrate before the mother took her self off with pill without telling me does NOT recognise Australian child support laws, due to the fact the Indonesian government doesn't allow women to claim against a man unless he has accepted legal financial responsibility for a womans children by getting married to her.

It is illegal for a woman to have a child outside of marraige and difficult for a mother to get her child an ID card if she is unmarried.

So before you bang on about deadbeat dads maybe you need to consider deadbeat moms are also an issue, popping out unwanted kids regardless of the consequences.

The issue got so bad in Australia they now make it compulsary for single mums with kids in full time school to get at least 20 hours work a week to get them off welfare.

Take care of your kids financially?,,,,a rare woman you are then!
Most women in Australia prefer to go on welfare and rely on child support.

That's a Lady who's husband left her with staggering debts, no support and a young family. She has struggled and fought for years and has raised a wonderful family while suffering very serious health issues. She knows hardship.

Evidence unwed women will have children for financial gain correlates across Ireland, England, Europe, even for the governments meager welfare money.

Frank Field,

the former Labour minister for social security, said: “I’ve always believed in a causal link between benefits and the number of single mothers.
“We’ve got to change so that people don’t become single mothers. For some, they become single mothers by accident, while for others it’s a deliberate choice.”

The study contrasts the situation in Britain and elsewhere in northern Europe with Mediterranean countries such as Spain, where single-mother families constitute less than 1% of the total. Spanish single mothers received £137 in special benefits a year in 1994, which by 2001 had declined to £38.

Spain, along with Greece, Portugal and Italy, have the lowest numbers of single-mother families in Europe.

Latest figures from the Office for National Statistics show single-mother families in Britain have steadily risen from 1% of all households with children in 1971 to 11% in 2004.

Libertad Gonzalez, a Barcelona academic who compiled the research, studied a sample of 6,580 single mothers from the European Community Household Panel. She estimates that for every £675 a state offers in benefits to lone parents, the incidence of single mothers goes up in that country by 2%.

After Britain, Ireland — despite its Catholic heritage — has the highest proportion of single mothers in the EU. In 2001 more than 4% of households were headed by single mothers. Irish lone mothers receive as much in benefits as their British counterparts.

Gonzalez said single mothers received more benefits in Britain and Ireland because they had “liberal” social policies where welfare payments were means-tested, which gave greater assistance to the greatest in need.

By contrast the southern European countries had benefits systems where there was an implicit understanding that family networks should provide assistance.

“The correlation across countries is quite striking,” said Gonzalez. “The countries with the highest incidence of single mothers are also the countries with more generous benefit, and vice versa . . . Spain, Greece and Portugal with small numbers of single mothers also have lower benefit levels. The UK and Ireland are both generous with benefits and have a higher incidence of these families.

Unwed women get pregnant for financial gain, across Ireland and the rest of Europe.

Libertad Gonzalez, a Barcelona academic who compiled the research, studied a sample of 6,580 single mothers from the European Community Household Panel. She estimates that for every £675 a state offers in benefits to lone parents, the incidence of single mothers goes up in that country by 2%.

Thanks hun, all done because I actually take my responsilities seriously, sadly as this thread proves not everyone does the same.

Am out of this thread now, was fun for awhile but is actually heart sickening to see a father with the attitude this guy has.

Heart sickening for me also when a woman rejects an offer to pay 50% of her court declared, costs to raise a child in favour of the child support agency amounts calculated.

So she went for what she and I thought was "The big Kill" going to court to enforce child support guidelines.

Her greed backfired as the child support agency realised they made an error when they didn't count me as resident of Indonesia and not liable to pay.

Hahaha!