Iran threat: Serious or saber-rattling? (74)
Propaganda!
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carenzaI watched the video on the page you posted, as well as this video:
Is says "they are worried", but also says, "they are playing it down". Propaganda. Propaganda to entice a new war.
They have been itching to start this war for awhile. Now they state a zero tollerence to closing the harbor.
They are provoking it.
It will blow up in their face. We will probably be Nuked!
HL
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I would worry more about Iran cutting off oil supplies to Europe rather than building a nuclear bomb:
The Doha Debates - Iran's nuclear program
The Doha Debates - Iran's nuclear program
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don't want to sound negative, but I think you US people are heading for a new war...
is this fact or propaganda?
don't want to sound negative, but I think you US people are heading for a new war...
is this fact or propaganda?
Fact is Iran is in violation of the will of the UN. And, as a result, sanctions have been put in place which Iran is threatening to get around by closing the Strait.
If one wishes to allow Iran to counter the will of the UN then by all means do nothing but, if the UN is to have any relevance then certainly, Iran cannot be permitted to conduct this action which by the way, is not their right to do and constitutes an act of war.
So, it is entirely up to Iran whether they will go to war just as it was entirely up to Saddam Hussein to prefer war rather than have sanctions lifted against his regime.
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johnaustin123: I would worry more about Iran cutting off oil supplies to Europe rather than building a nuclear bomb:
That's what they are worried about, Iran closing the harbor and stopping oil supplies.
Iran does not need to have their own Nuclear Weapons. They have allies.
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carenza: just read this
worries me....
don't want to sound negative, but I think you US people are heading for a new war...
is this fact or propaganda?
worries me....
don't want to sound negative, but I think you US people are heading for a new war...
is this fact or propaganda?
I've read that Iran has only 2 boats that are not made out of fiberglass. Have you any idea what rotary barrel 90mm aircraft cannon at 900 rounds a minute does to fiberglass boats?? Can you say turn them into dust in the wind??
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HealthyLiving: That's what they are worried about, Iran closing the harbor and stopping oil supplies.
Iran does not need to have their own Nuclear Weapons. They have allies.
Iran does not need to have their own Nuclear Weapons. They have allies.
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The Iranian people do not want war and may have their own Arab spring soon.
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Up to 80% of Iran's income comes from oil exports. They would be very foolish to cut off oil to Europe and the western world.
Iran threatens oil supply
Iran threatens oil supply
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US shows force as it sells jets to Saudis
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theromancepoet: I've read that Iran has only 2 boats that are not made out of fiberglass. Have you any idea what rotary barrel 90mm aircraft cannon at 900 rounds a minute does to fiberglass boats?? Can you say turn them into dust in the wind??
Iran is in our Gulf of Mexico right now with sophisticated weapons. They are also working with the Drug Cartels in Mexico:
EXPOZ:...Follow up. Iranian Ships and Mexican Drugs
Iranian now say they will also deploy not only to The Atlantic Ocean from NE Canada to SE USA but now, into the Gulf Of Mexico as well. I will say, Iran does not possess a Nuclear Bomb, again, Iran DOES NOT have a bomb.
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Good thread carenza...looking forward to hearing some iran-bashing from the 'proponents of USA and Israeli' propaganda machine
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Albertaghost: Fact is Iran is in violation of the will of the UN. And, as a result, sanctions have been put in place which Iran is threatening to get around by closing the Strait.
If one wishes to allow Iran to counter the will of the UN then by all means do nothing but, if the UN is to have any relevance then certainly, Iran cannot be permitted to conduct this action which by the way, is not their right to do and constitutes an act of war.
So, it is entirely up to Iran whether they will go to war just as it was entirely up to Saddam Hussein to prefer war rather than have sanctions lifted against his regime.
If one wishes to allow Iran to counter the will of the UN then by all means do nothing but, if the UN is to have any relevance then certainly, Iran cannot be permitted to conduct this action which by the way, is not their right to do and constitutes an act of war.
So, it is entirely up to Iran whether they will go to war just as it was entirely up to Saddam Hussein to prefer war rather than have sanctions lifted against his regime.
oh...there it is! i can see some 'iran-hating and iran-bashing' is in full swing! in the disguise of UN resolution! good job albert! you make me proud!
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carenza: just read this
worries me....
don't want to sound negative, but I think you US people are heading for a new war...
is this fact or propaganda?
worries me....
don't want to sound negative, but I think you US people are heading for a new war...
is this fact or propaganda?
An Iranian warplane has spotted a US aircraft carrier during Tehran’s ongoing navy drill in the Persian Gulf, reports IRNA news agency. The US fleet’s maneuvers come after Iran threatened to block the oil flow through the Strait of Hormuz.
Tehran’s surveillance jet has shot a video and pictures of the American carrier, which was later identified as John C. Stennis. The US Fifth Fleet keeps a military base in Bahrain, while the ship was spotted in the Gulf of Oman after crossing the Strait of Hormuz.
“An Iranian vessel and surveillance plane have tracked, filmed and photographed a US aircraft carrier as it was entering the Gulf of Oman from the Persian Gulf,” said Adm. Habibollah Sayyari, Iran's navy chief, as cited by the official IRNA.
“The foreign fleet will be warned by Iranian forces if it enters the area of the drill," added Sayyari.
The US navy confirmed on Thursday the aircraft carrier John C. Stennis had indeed headed for the Gulf of Oman, accompanied by guided-missile cruiser Mobile Bay and several other vessels. But that was “a pre-planned, routine transit” as the group was to provide air support to allied troops in Afghanistan, said Lt. Rebecca Rebarich, the spokesperson for the US Fifth Fleet.
Since Saturday, Iran has been conducting a 10-day navy drill in international waters near the Strait of Hormuz, the gateway for up to 40 per cent of world’s oil supply with the US and EU among major customers. Tehran has promised to block the strait if Washington sanctions Iran’s oil exports out of suspicions it is developing nuclear weapons.
While Tehran seems to be reaffirming its naval might in the region, Reuters reports all of its marine capabilities cannot be compared with the US Fifth Fleet located in the Persian Gulf, which lists over 20 ocean-range warships and 15,000 personnel.
First they create a worldwide Economic Collapse then they create a Worldwide Humanitarian Holocaust. Nothing new, we saw it in '39 and history will repeat itself because we haven't learned a damn thing from the past.
Playing it step by step by the New World Order Book. Only this time China and Russia aren't gonna sit idly by while the West tries to take their resources.
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half the worlds navy ships have been sitting about the entrance to the straights under the pretext they just there to protect shipping from Somali pirates
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robplum: half the worlds navy ships have been sitting about the entrance to the straights under the pretext they just there to protect shipping from Somali pirates
Yeah, they're there to SAVE THE WORLD! 
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yeah been sitting about there since before the last show of force, think they snatched some silly POM sailors. The world navies been sitting about sunning themselves since then
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seems Iran is hellbent to usher in that 12th Imam!
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Think so Conrad I think just a bit of huff and buff, needed to charge the ships batteries, they got to much to loose in pulling some stunt like closing the straights...be surprised if they do, but sooner china moves the better
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it worries me....
don't want to sound negative, but I think you US people are heading for a new war...
is this fact or propaganda?