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Jan 2, 2012 7:44 AM CST The End of America as We Know It: Obama Signs NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill
mnowsa
mnowsamnowsaRajshahi, Rajshahi Division Bangladesh145 Threads 3 Polls 7,536 Posts
gininitaly: No Mnowsa... actually the curtain is finally rising... but the end game will be the same or not. Happy New Year dear ... 2012 may be a turning point... for either good or evil, pray.


Happy new year to you too, gin! I just wish the same happy new year for the USA. I also hope that 2012 becomes a turning point for the USA for all good reasons and the good USA..the good USA for which my parents once used to feel proud (unfortunately not anymore) because their son (me) once lived there.hug teddybear
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Jan 2, 2012 7:53 AM CST The End of America as We Know It: Obama Signs NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill
gininitaly: So is that an admission of the dissemination of false information for the sole purpose of the destruction of the majority of the people in the United States of America for personal gain and global domination?
putting words in people's mouths again?rolling on the floor laughing doh

Hasn't dawned on you yet that I belong neither to the Right nor the Left!
But it seems you all can't discern things like that anymore!laugh
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Jan 2, 2012 8:03 AM CST The End of America as We Know It: Obama Signs NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill
Mermaidon
MermaidonMermaidonBrussels, Brussels (Bruxelles) Belgium26 Threads 4 Polls 1,116 Posts
Conrad73: putting words in people's mouths again?

Hasn't dawned on you yet that I belong neither to the Right nor the Left!
But it seems you all can't discern things like that anymore!


There must be a 'Zurich, Zrich' somewhere within the Bible Belt, like there's a Fredericksburg, VA... You're an undercover Republican, Conrad! I knew it!! rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 2, 2012 8:18 AM CST The End of America as We Know It: Obama Signs NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
Conrad73: putting words in people's mouths again?

Hasn't dawned on you yet that I belong neither to the Right nor the Left!
But it seems you all can't discern things like that anymore!


Are you actually claiming to be unbiased?

Actually you are one little man who has in the least, a warped agenda not in the interest of democracy. Perhaps you don't grasp how much is known by what you don't say.

Or it could be you're just bored and contrary by nature and... you know not what harm you do out here in the Matrix... or perhaps you know exactly what you do and are gleeful that your personal delusions are coming to pass.

Either way you are morally destitute and do nothing but inseminate chaos. In total honesty... you disgust me.

Now... I'll be more than happy to ignore you and your madness, if you have the civil capability of ignoring me and my opinions, which tend to evolve everyday... unlike yours which seem to have been cast in stone since 1948.
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Jan 2, 2012 8:49 AM CST The End of America as We Know It: Obama Signs NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill
mnowsa
mnowsamnowsaRajshahi, Rajshahi Division Bangladesh145 Threads 3 Polls 7,536 Posts
Conrad73: putting words in people's mouths again?

Hasn't dawned on you yet that I belong neither to the Right nor the Left!
But it seems you all can't discern things like that anymore!


oh conrad! we all know that you don't belong to the "Right"cool

















the fact is you belong to the " Extreme Right"rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 2, 2012 10:29 AM CST The End of America as We Know It: Obama Signs NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill
gininitaly: Are you actually claiming to be unbiased?

Actually you are one little man who has in the least, a warped agenda not in the interest of democracy. Perhaps you don't grasp how much is known by what you don't say.

Or it could be you're just bored and contrary by nature and... you know not what harm you do out here in the Matrix... or perhaps you know exactly what you do and are gleeful that your personal delusions are coming to pass.

Either way you are morally destitute and do nothing but inseminate chaos. In total honesty... you disgust me.

Now... I'll be more than happy to ignore you and your madness, if you have the civil capability of ignoring me and my opinions, which tend to evolve everyday... unlike yours which seem to have been cast in stone since 1948.
rolling on the floor laughing Holy Phlock!
Where did I say that?
Stop putting words in my Mouth!
Doesn't make you look smart!


wow wow wow

your Insults aren't fazing me one bit!
Show me that I am doing something right!
You keep forgetting,that at the outset you insulted me out of the blue,even though I hadn't addressed you,and you been doing it ever since!
The above Post is another proof of it!
I'd be glad if you'd ignored my posts,but apparently you and some others are unable to do so.laugh
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Jan 2, 2012 10:31 AM CST The End of America as We Know It: Obama Signs NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill
mnowsa: oh conrad! we all know that you don't belong to the "Right" the fact is you belong to the " Extreme Right"
OMG,you know facts!rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 2, 2012 10:32 AM CST The End of America as We Know It: Obama Signs NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill
Conrad73: Holy Phlock!
Where did I say that?
Stop putting words in my Mouth!
Doesn't make you look smart!

your Insults aren't fazing me one bit!
Show me that I am doing something right!
You keep forgetting,that at the outset you insulted me out of the blue,even though I hadn't addressed you,and you been doing it ever since!
The above Post is another proof of it!
I'd be glad if you'd ignored my posts,but apparently you and some others are unable to do so.
Besides,I don't need to change my mind on things every day!laugh
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Jan 2, 2012 10:34 AM CST The End of America as We Know It: Obama Signs NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill
gininitaly: So is that an admission of the dissemination of false information for the sole purpose of the destruction of the majority of the people in the United States of America for personal gain and global domination?
so this is how you ignore me!
Another Example!laugh
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Jan 2, 2012 10:37 AM CST The End of America as We Know It: Obama Signs NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill
Legend905: Softening Up Iran for the Final Attack

In many ways, America's and Israel's much-anticipated war against Iran has already begun. It is not the type of war that was expected -- an Israeli textbook style surprise and swift attack on Iranian nuclear facilities, followed by a sustained U.S. and NATO air campaign -- but a covert war with quite an unexpected feature. The covert war, which has seen increased U.S. drone activity over Iranian skies and an increase in suspicious explosions at Iranian military facilities, has been coupled with American support for destabilization efforts against all of Iran's allies and friends, including Syria, Russia, China, North Korea, and Venezuela…

This multi-pronged attack strategy has sent a clear message to Iran, it is not safe from covert sabotage at home and it cannot look to its friends abroad for help as they deal with their own U.S. and Israeli-inspired domestic strife.

Although Libya under Muammar Qaddafi was no friend of Iran, the coming to power of pro-Saudi Wahhabi Salafist-Sunni elements in Tripoli and Benghazi increases the phalanx of Arab states actively opposing the Shi'a government in Tehran. The success of the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafist parties in Egypt's parliamentary election also spells problems for Iran.

However, it is the potential loss of power by the Bashar al Assad regime in Syria that poses the worst immediate defeat for Iran. Syria has been Iran's closest ally in the Arab world. The West and the Saudis and Qataris have been supporting Salafist elements, including terrorists, who have committed their own share of atrocities in Syria, much as the same ilk conducted massacres of pro-Qaddafi, as well as black African guest workers and black Libyans, during the Libyan civil war.

On Iran's borders and adjacent waters, countries hosting U.S. military forces -- Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Oman, Turkey, and Afghanistan -- are being prepared for a military conflict with Iran. Although the Obama administration proclaimed the end of the U.S. military occupation of Iraq, some U.S. forces remain in the country, as well as a group of para-military private security contractors.

With news that Iraq that the predominantly Shi'a and pro-Iranian Nouri al Maliki government in Baghdad has forged a military alliance with Iran and that Iraq's Sunni Vice President, Tareq al-Hashimy, has sought protection from arrest by Maliki's government in Iraqi Kurdistan, the U.S. can be expected to increase its own covert and overt military presence in Iraqi "Sunnistan" in the west of the country, as well as in Iraqi Kurdistan. The first front lines in a U.S. and/or Israel military showdown with Iran could be along the Shi'a-Sunni front lines in Iraq, a nation already so weary and decimated from war.

Iranian Revolutionary Guard forces could end up crossing into Iraq to take on remaining U.S. forces and their Sunni and Kurdish proxies.
could you source this Stuff?confused
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Jan 2, 2012 10:48 AM CST The End of America as We Know It: Obama Signs NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill
gininitaly: Are you actually claiming to be unbiased?

Actually you are one little man who has in the least, a warped agenda not in the interest of democracy. Perhaps you don't grasp how much is known by what you don't say.

Or it could be you're just bored and contrary by nature and... you know not what harm you do out here in the Matrix... or perhaps you know exactly what you do and are gleeful that your personal delusions are coming to pass.

Either way you are morally destitute and do nothing but inseminate chaos. In total honesty... you disgust me.

Now... I'll be more than happy to ignore you and your madness, if you have the civil capability of ignoring me and my opinions, which tend to evolve everyday... unlike yours which seem to have been cast in stone since 1948.
another ad-Hominem attack by you like that and I'll report you!very mad
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Jan 2, 2012 10:52 AM CST The End of America as We Know It: Obama Signs NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill
Legend905: On the eve of 2012, President Obama has, with the stroke of a pen, ended America as we know it.
With the National Defense Authorization Act now signed into law, American citizens can and possibly will be indefinitely detained by the military if they have been “accused” of any terrorist related activity.
In a press release published today, the ACLU further outlined their opposition to this unconstitutional law and highlighted the fact that Obama will now be known as the president who signed indefinite detention of Americans, far from any battlefield, into law.
“President Obama’s action today is a blight on his legacy because he will forever be known as the president who signed indefinite detention without charge or trial into law,” said Anthony D. Romero, ACLU executive director.
“The statute is particularly dangerous because it has no temporal or geographic limitations, and can be used by this and future presidents to militarily detain people captured far from any battlefield. The ACLU will fight worldwide detention authority wherever we can, be it in court, in Congress, or internationally.”
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“We are incredibly disappointed that President Obama signed this new law even though his administration had already claimed overly broad detention authority in court,” said Romero. “Any hope that the Obama administration would roll back the constitutional excesses of George Bush in the war on terror was extinguished today.
Although the president and the corporate controlled media have tried to pretend that he only signed the bill because Congress took out the indefinite detention provision, the fact remains that this bill DOES give the government the ability to detain any American they claim to be a terrorist without so much as a trial.
Obama’s claim that he had reservations about certain provisions also rings hollow considering the fact that the White House actually asked for the indefinite detention provision to be added to the bill in the first place!



As we all celebrate the new year we must reflect back on 2011 and realize that it is absolutely imperative that we speak out and expose these police state measures like never before.
If we do not, this country will continue on its path towards destruction and before the end of 2012 we could find ourselves in a full scale police state that has completely outlawed the alternative media and free, outside the box thinking.
has anyone really read the whole Bill?

Or is it more of,The Sky is falling?
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Jan 2, 2012 12:43 PM CST The End of America as We Know It: Obama Signs NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
Conrad73: another ad-Hominem attack by you like that and I'll report you!


Hit close to home?

And a tattletale as well, can't you fight your own battles?

Typical... so where's your courage to actually come out of the shadows to declare and defend your exalted real position like the big kids... You know, somewhere besides hit and run insults to others positions?

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

Btw you have often referred to me as a follower of Soros or whoever, you've called me a communist, leftist, bleeding heart liberal, that my information is worthless because it may come from a progressive site or some paper or author that you've already categorized or that my facts aren't facts nevertheless... as insults towards me obviously... and then you have the balls to put here in black and white that you are neither Left or Right and wonder why I am bemused? But it's true, greedy fascists can go either way. rolling on the floor laughing

Card carrying member of the global takeover folks are we? Party-less (sorta), Zionist maybe, any means justifies the endgame? Please, I'd love to hear your argument on what makes the world go round and how many of the annoying filthy rabble y'all can get rid of this year. hmmm But did you realize, no rabble, no bucks... if you starve everyone, who will be the worker bees? The planet is finite after all, once you run out of everything from military contracts to pharmaceutical scams then trees and people, what's left? Tidiness and order or just a wasteland? You know.

So sure, be my guest, tattle ya big baby. It still won't change this fact.. that you slither in the grass and don't walk upright like a human being. Come on, be brave... own who you are wink . But we know you won't... that would really scare off the sheep wouldn't it?
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Jan 2, 2012 12:46 PM CST The End of America as We Know It: Obama Signs NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill
gininitaly
gininitalygininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Posts
Yes, the sky is falling.
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Jan 2, 2012 1:10 PM CST The End of America as We Know It: Obama Signs NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill
gininitaly: Hit close to home?

And a tattletale as well, can't you fight your own battles?

Typical... so where's your courage to actually come out of the shadows to declare and defend your exalted real position like the big kids... You know, somewhere besides hit and run insults to others positions?



Btw you have often referred to me as a follower of Soros or whoever, you've called me a communist, leftist, bleeding heart liberal, that my information is worthless because it may come from a progressive site or some paper or author that you've already categorized or that my facts aren't facts nevertheless... as insults towards me obviously... and then you have the balls to put here in black and white that you are neither Left or Right and wonder why I am bemused? But it's true, greedy fascists can go either way.

Card carrying member of the global takeover folks are we? Party-less (sorta), Zionist maybe, any means justifies the endgame? Please, I'd love to hear your argument on what makes the world go round and how many of the annoying filthy rabble y'all can get rid of this year. But did you realize, no rabble, no bucks... if you starve everyone, who will be the worker bees? The planet is finite after all, once you run out of everything from military contracts to pharmaceutical scams then trees and people, what's left? Tidiness and order or just a wasteland? You know.

So sure, be my guest, tattle ya big baby. It still won't change this fact.. that you slither in the grass and don't walk upright like a human being. Come on, be brave... own who you are . But we know you won't... that would really scare off the sheep wouldn't it?
nope!
You can never hit close to home!
Not with any of your poisonous attacks!
Only shows you up!rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 2, 2012 1:16 PM CST The End of America as We Know It: Obama Signs NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill
gininitaly: Hit close to home?

And a tattletale as well, can't you fight your own battles?

Typical... so where's your courage to actually come out of the shadows to declare and defend your exalted real position like the big kids... You know, somewhere besides hit and run insults to others positions?



Btw you have often referred to me as a follower of Soros or whoever, you've called me a communist, leftist, bleeding heart liberal, that my information is worthless because it may come from a progressive site or some paper or author that you've already categorized or that my facts aren't facts nevertheless... as insults towards me obviously... and then you have the balls to put here in black and white that you are neither Left or Right and wonder why I am bemused? But it's true, greedy fascists can go either way.

Card carrying member of the global takeover folks are we? Party-less (sorta), Zionist maybe, any means justifies the endgame? Please, I'd love to hear your argument on what makes the world go round and how many of the annoying filthy rabble y'all can get rid of this year. But did you realize, no rabble, no bucks... if you starve everyone, who will be the worker bees? The planet is finite after all, once you run out of everything from military contracts to pharmaceutical scams then trees and people, what's left? Tidiness and order or just a wasteland? You know.

So sure, be my guest, tattle ya big baby. It still won't change this fact.. that you slither in the grass and don't walk upright like a human being. Come on, be brave... own who you are . But we know you won't... that would really scare off the sheep wouldn't it?
you better show me where I called you a Communist or anything such!

What do you mean by Tattletale?
Never reported you,even though I had enough reasons to do so!
So pack up those Fibs!laugh Actually never made enough Posts to yours to call you all that!
It's more like to the contrary,that you attacked me,even though I rarely address a post at you!laugh
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Jan 2, 2012 1:18 PM CST The End of America as We Know It: Obama Signs NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill
Conrad73: you better show me where I called you a Communist or anything such!

What do you mean by Tattletale?
Never reported you,even though I had enough reasons to do so!
So pack up those Fibs! Actually never made enough Posts to yours to call you all that!
It's more like to the contrary,that you attacked me,even though I rarely address a post at you!
Besides,don't blame me for Obama signing that Law!
I have been trying to tell everyone for Ages what he was,only to be reviled for it!
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Jan 2, 2012 2:34 PM CST The End of America as We Know It: Obama Signs NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill
Class5
Class5Class5Skankytown, Queensland Australia4 Threads 1,010 Posts
Conrad73: you better show me where I called you a Communist or anything such!

What do you mean by Tattletale?
Never reported you,even though I had enough reasons to do so!
So pack up those Fibs! Actually never made enough Posts to yours to call you all that!
It's more like to the contrary,that you attacked me,even though I rarely address a post at you!


I think she likes you. rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 2, 2012 2:39 PM CST The End of America as We Know It: Obama Signs NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill
Class5: I think she likes you.
uh oh uh oh uh oh

























rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 3, 2012 8:27 PM CST The End of America as We Know It: Obama Signs NDAA Indefinite Detention Bill
hotburninluv
hotburninluvhotburninluvPalm Desert, California USA30 Threads 1 Polls 297 Posts
Well, well how Nice that Obumbler sneaks this DETENTION BILL into law, by signing this bill on NEW YEAR'S EVE, when Congress is on vacation and in RECESS!! Couldn't it wait for Congress to discuss and review the far-reaching effects that this BILL entails??? frustrated frustrated

If what You say is in this bill that you claim, and I believe what you say all about it is TRUE!! Where is are beloved, compliant, government-controlled lapdog Obama Liberal Media on this??? NOT a PEEP OUT OF THEM ABOUT THIS! Huh? Where are there ANY STORIES about this in The Media?? Where's the Civil Liberty Lawyers to take issue with this bill???
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