Is this what they mean by a Welfare State? (144)
robplum: Is this what they mean by a Welfare State?
answer no none of the above...
New Zealand and to a lesser extent Australia, pre idiot, moron, full of crap Ronald Regan's new world order of 1984, NZ had a system in place that was referred to as a Welfare State.
What that basically meant was the State provided free education, free Ambulance and Hospital treatment, maintained public owned utilities like the whole Electricity power supply, transport like in railways, trams and buses and ferry services, service, unemployment, disability and old age benefits.
answer no none of the above...
New Zealand and to a lesser extent Australia, pre idiot, moron, full of crap Ronald Regan's new world order of 1984, NZ had a system in place that was referred to as a Welfare State.
What that basically meant was the State provided free education, free Ambulance and Hospital treatment, maintained public owned utilities like the whole Electricity power supply, transport like in railways, trams and buses and ferry services, service, unemployment, disability and old age benefits.
Oh no! These days they want the masses, you know the other 99.5%, to just kick the bucket... problem solved.
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mnowsa: Typical arrogant mentality of the filthy rich people. people like you always just love to mention how you help food on the table of the poor, BUT you never mention the fact that those poor and less-privileged work their butt off so that you can be rich.
I make less than the guys working for me mnowsa and, work alongside them, the shift after them and, prepare the work for the next day after that so, from a guy who is not rich, ofay. Better run down to the local public school to find another bide, seems you getting stressed dude.
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freeridin: The Monopolies and Mergers Commissions they have in Europe are primarily there to protect the consumer to ensure no one organisation can hold the consumer hostage, and in some case where there is a virtual monopoly to review what would be a realistic price increase working with both company representatives and consumer rights groups.
One strange quirk of all this is Europe has a completely unique EULA for Windows 7 to everyone else, as you are not allowed to force the install of IE as it is not part of the operating system
One strange quirk of all this is Europe has a completely unique EULA for Windows 7 to everyone else, as you are not allowed to force the install of IE as it is not part of the operating system
So much for Gin's theory they are one and the same!
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mnowsa: Typical arrogant mentality of the filthy rich people. people like you always just love to mention how you help food on the table of the poor, BUT you never mention the fact that those poor and less-privileged work their butt off so that you can be rich.
While moving manufacturing to foreign soil with no health laws or work protections and paying them a pittance. And yet did the prices of items sold in the US and Europe go down or remain the same and higher... hmmm... wonder where the gravy went that should have been fairly taxed, the Caimans?
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Albertaghost: Yes, answering a phone for ten bucks in hour in a call center is a far better job than putting the towers up for eighteen.
no most UK call centers have already gone overseas, unlike in the US, all of Vodafone retail division, including it's store are owned by Vodafone, the UK hasn't gone down the franchise route in the High Street, which has caused an interesting learning curve for me living in NZ where so much is franchised.
So Vodafone would still leave a local marketing/sale division and require the retail management division which would also still employ maintenance contractors for the stores and offices
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Albertaghost: I make less than the guys working for me mnowsa and, work alongside them, the shift after them and, prepare the work for the next day after that so, from a guy who is not rich, ofay. Better run down to the local public school to find another bide, seems you getting stressed dude.
i was not talking about your income, albert. I was talking about those filthy rich, millionaire and billionaire people who you have been defending to death.
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Albertaghost: So much for Gin's theory they are one and the same!
European companies have grown up with the beast and know how to work around it, and so many companies offer top politicians advisory board positions, well in the UK at least, although these have to be declared
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mnowsa: i was not talking about your income, albert. I was talking about those filthy rich, millionaire and billionaire people who you have been defending to death.
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RedSpaceDuck: If everybody had lots of currency, nobody could be rich, currency would be near worthless.
exactly. But who reaps more benefit from having currency? it is the rich people who reaps more benefit from it. So, since they are the ones who reaps more benefit from the currency, it would be the rich people who had to loose more. In other words, the rich should be thanking the poor for not trying so hard to be rich.
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mnowsa: i was not talking about your income, albert. I was talking about those filthy rich, millionaire and billionaire people who you have been defending to death.
Let's see whom you were talking about mnowsa. Your quote again;
""typical arrogant mentality of the filthy rich people. people like you always just love to mention how you help food on the table of the poor, BUT you never mention the fact that those poor and less-privileged work their butt off so that you can be rich.""
You talking to me? I don't anybody else here so you must be talkin' to me.
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maxmate1: That lying propaganda hate-scam was busted long ago. Now here's more for the white lying propagandists.
Bangladesh was regarded as the happiest nation in the world. A study conducted by the London School of Economics. Sad USA ranked 46th.
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Bangladesh was regarded as the happiest nation in the world. A study conducted by the London School of Economics. Sad USA ranked 46th.
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thank you maxmate for trying to offer some 'glimpse of light' to those who prefer to remain in the 'dark' for the rest of their lives. I have known the mindset of people like albert for the 12 years of my life while living and studying in the USA. People like him don't really bother me much.
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Btw UBS is buying up tons of small financial planning companies all over the world... google how many in the US. Talk about creating a niche huh?
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Albertaghost: Let's see whom you were talking about mnowsa. Your quote again;
""typical arrogant mentality of the filthy rich people. people like you always just love to mention how you help food on the table of the poor, BUT you never mention the fact that those poor and less-privileged work their butt off so that you can be rich.""
You talking to me? I don't anybody else here so you must be talkin' to me.
""typical arrogant mentality of the filthy rich people. people like you always just love to mention how you help food on the table of the poor, BUT you never mention the fact that those poor and less-privileged work their butt off so that you can be rich.""
You talking to me? I don't anybody else here so you must be talkin' to me.
i think i may have phrased that sentence wrong. i should have put 'them' instead of 'you'. sorry for the unintentional mistake. albert. however just because some people working for you make more than you, it doesn't necessarily mean that all of you can't be filthy rich. does it? Besides, since you have been defending those millionaires/billionaires like your moma and papa, am i allowed to think that u are also filthy rich?
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Albertaghost: Let's see whom you were talking about mnowsa. Your quote again;
""typical arrogant mentality of the filthy rich people. people like you always just love to mention how you help food on the table of the poor, BUT you never mention the fact that those poor and less-privileged work their butt off so that you can be rich.""
You talking to me? I don't anybody else here so you must be talkin' to me.
""typical arrogant mentality of the filthy rich people. people like you always just love to mention how you help food on the table of the poor, BUT you never mention the fact that those poor and less-privileged work their butt off so that you can be rich.""
You talking to me? I don't anybody else here so you must be talkin' to me.
If you can't play nice then go away Alberta.
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The World Central Bankers' Bank
The Bank for International Settlements (BIS), the "first beast", was founded in 1930 and was the first entity to be called a "World Bank." Monetarist and gold-based, it functions as a clearing house for the balance of payments between nations. It operated throughout WWII as an interlocking directorate and a clearinghouse for joint Allied and Axis high finance.
The World Bank/International Monetary Fund (IMF), the "Second Beast," was founded in 1946, after being drafted at Bretton Woods, New Hampshire, during the war in 1944. The IMF functions as the collection agency for the World Bank, much as the IRS functions as the collection agency for the Federal Reserve Bank. The Wall Street branch of the Federal Reserve is the "fiscal agent" for the IMF in the USA. The capital pool of the IMF consists of the Prime Banks of the First World, which interlock with the First World (G-7) military-industrial complexes and the oil conglomerates.
The IMF functions under the aegis of the United Nations, as a Keynesian paper credit-mill, extending credit in the form of Special Drawing Rights (SDRs) to the Second and Third World debtor nations, requiring that they purchase specified amounts of the currency of the G-7 nations, imposing "austerity terms" upon their internal economies, and looting them by means of "repayment schedules" of their natural resources and minerals. These are channeled through the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) to the multinational cartels, also headquartered in Geneva, Switzerland.
With the implementation of NAFTA and the Uruguay Round of GATT, the real wages of blue and white collar workers in the U.S. will be leveled in time to near parity with the Third World. The last "Superpower," the United States, is not the primary head of the G-7 Beast, but is, owing to its debtor status, the last head, appropriately close to the horned tail, engaging disproportionately in UN Security Council "police actions" around the globe.
International Capital, having gone "global," will increasingly employ the blue-helmeted troops of the UN to enforce the hegemony of Capital in the future.
The Bank for International Settlements (BIS), the "first beast", was founded in 1930 and was the first entity to be called a "World Bank." Monetarist and gold-based, it functions as a clearing house for the balance of payments between nations. It operated throughout WWII as an interlocking directorate and a clearinghouse for joint Allied and Axis high finance.
The World Bank/International Monetary Fund (IMF), the "Second Beast," was founded in 1946, after being drafted at Bretton Woods, New Hampshire, during the war in 1944. The IMF functions as the collection agency for the World Bank, much as the IRS functions as the collection agency for the Federal Reserve Bank. The Wall Street branch of the Federal Reserve is the "fiscal agent" for the IMF in the USA. The capital pool of the IMF consists of the Prime Banks of the First World, which interlock with the First World (G-7) military-industrial complexes and the oil conglomerates.
The IMF functions under the aegis of the United Nations, as a Keynesian paper credit-mill, extending credit in the form of Special Drawing Rights (SDRs) to the Second and Third World debtor nations, requiring that they purchase specified amounts of the currency of the G-7 nations, imposing "austerity terms" upon their internal economies, and looting them by means of "repayment schedules" of their natural resources and minerals. These are channeled through the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) to the multinational cartels, also headquartered in Geneva, Switzerland.
With the implementation of NAFTA and the Uruguay Round of GATT, the real wages of blue and white collar workers in the U.S. will be leveled in time to near parity with the Third World. The last "Superpower," the United States, is not the primary head of the G-7 Beast, but is, owing to its debtor status, the last head, appropriately close to the horned tail, engaging disproportionately in UN Security Council "police actions" around the globe.
International Capital, having gone "global," will increasingly employ the blue-helmeted troops of the UN to enforce the hegemony of Capital in the future.
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mnowsa: exactly. But who reaps more benefit from having currency? it is the rich people who reaps more benefit from it. So, since they are the ones who reaps more benefit from the currency, it would be the rich people who had to loose more. In other words, the rich should be thanking the poor for not trying so hard to be rich.
I believe you're correct... that's not to confuse what you're saying with wanting a poor that adds as much value to the economy and society as possible - which, and the Right is correct on this, the welfare state as it now functions is a hinderance upon.
What's most sad in Western business and politics for me is that at one time we used to sell ourselves upon being good and being great at what we do, now the selling feature is how low we can drop tax and how bad we can make our working conditions; how worthless and cheap we can be - this isn't even an issue of socialism, it is of patriotism and the distinct lack of it, even - and especially - amongst the flag-waving Right.
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maxmate1: That lying propaganda hate-scam was busted long ago. Now here's more for the white lying propagandists.
Bangladesh was regarded as the happiest nation in the world. A study conducted by the London School of Economics. Sad USA ranked 46th.
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Bangladesh was regarded as the happiest nation in the world. A study conducted by the London School of Economics. Sad USA ranked 46th.
!+
Another slap on hte the lying idiocy of sheer hate-based Progaganda.
Nobel Peace Prize for Bangladeshi Economist Mr. Younus for creating an incredible micro-finance network concept that gave miraculous results for the alleviation of poverty.
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robplum: The World Central Bankers' Bank
The Bank for International Settlements (BIS), the "first beast", was founded in 1930 and was the first entity to be called a "World Bank." Monetarist and gold-based, it functions as a clearing house for the balance of payments between nations. It operated throughout WWII as an interlocking directorate and a clearinghouse for joint Allied and Axis high finance.
The World Bank/International Monetary Fund (IMF), the "Second Beast," was founded in 1946, after being drafted at Bretton Woods, New Hampshire, during the war in 1944. The IMF functions as the collection agency for the World Bank, much as the IRS functions as the collection agency for the Federal Reserve Bank. The Wall Street branch of the Federal Reserve is the "fiscal agent" for the IMF in the USA. The capital pool of the IMF consists of the Prime Banks of the First World, which interlock with the First World (G-7) military-industrial complexes and the oil conglomerates.
The IMF functions under the aegis of the United Nations, as a Keynesian paper credit-mill, extending credit in the form of Special Drawing Rights (SDRs) to the Second and Third World debtor nations, requiring that they purchase specified amounts of the currency of the G-7 nations, imposing "austerity terms" upon their internal economies, and looting them by means of "repayment schedules" of their natural resources and minerals. These are channeled through the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) to the multinational cartels, also headquartered in Geneva, Switzerland.
With the implementation of NAFTA and the Uruguay Round of GATT, the real wages of blue and white collar workers in the U.S. will be leveled in time to near parity with the Third World. The last "Superpower," the United States, is not the primary head of the G-7 Beast, but is, owing to its debtor status, the last head, appropriately close to the horned tail, engaging disproportionately in UN Security Council "police actions" around the globe.
International Capital, having gone "global," will increasingly employ the blue-helmeted troops of the UN to enforce the hegemony of Capital in the future.
The Bank for International Settlements (BIS), the "first beast", was founded in 1930 and was the first entity to be called a "World Bank." Monetarist and gold-based, it functions as a clearing house for the balance of payments between nations. It operated throughout WWII as an interlocking directorate and a clearinghouse for joint Allied and Axis high finance.
The World Bank/International Monetary Fund (IMF), the "Second Beast," was founded in 1946, after being drafted at Bretton Woods, New Hampshire, during the war in 1944. The IMF functions as the collection agency for the World Bank, much as the IRS functions as the collection agency for the Federal Reserve Bank. The Wall Street branch of the Federal Reserve is the "fiscal agent" for the IMF in the USA. The capital pool of the IMF consists of the Prime Banks of the First World, which interlock with the First World (G-7) military-industrial complexes and the oil conglomerates.
The IMF functions under the aegis of the United Nations, as a Keynesian paper credit-mill, extending credit in the form of Special Drawing Rights (SDRs) to the Second and Third World debtor nations, requiring that they purchase specified amounts of the currency of the G-7 nations, imposing "austerity terms" upon their internal economies, and looting them by means of "repayment schedules" of their natural resources and minerals. These are channeled through the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) to the multinational cartels, also headquartered in Geneva, Switzerland.
With the implementation of NAFTA and the Uruguay Round of GATT, the real wages of blue and white collar workers in the U.S. will be leveled in time to near parity with the Third World. The last "Superpower," the United States, is not the primary head of the G-7 Beast, but is, owing to its debtor status, the last head, appropriately close to the horned tail, engaging disproportionately in UN Security Council "police actions" around the globe.
International Capital, having gone "global," will increasingly employ the blue-helmeted troops of the UN to enforce the hegemony of Capital in the future.
There has been a plan at foot for quite awhile, I have no doubt about it... and it seems there are many hooking up to the ride.
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mnowsa: i think i may have phrased that sentence wrong. i should have put 'them' instead of 'you'. sorry for the unintentional mistake. albert. however just because some people working for you make more than you, it doesn't necessarily mean that all of you can't be filthy rich. does it? Besides, since you have been defending those millionaires/billionaires like your moma and papa, am i allowed to think that u are also filthy rich?
Seems to be a gap in understanding. A company is an entity that employs people. I own a couple and they employ people, even me. Take company away and nobody is employed and they go back to whatever they were doing before - even me. In other words, it's an opportunity for all and without it, there is no opportunity. Nobody put a gun to my head to risk everything I have to start it or put my earnings back into it and nobody asked the guys working for it to work against their will.
Now, instead of twenty an hour I could pay one dollar an hour but I would soon find myself without anybody working and, I'd go under pretty fast so, I have to pay the going rate and then a bit more to make sure they don't take their learning curve elsewhere. As well, I have to do what I can to ensure they are happy with off time and things like that however, if they turn to me and demand things I cannot afford, I would, in a heartbeat, find another way to keep things working be it hiring somebody who will work for what I can afford or, even outsourcing if there were no other way so, if they are evil then so am I. Yet, out of over a few hundred people who know me and figure I'm pretty sterling to my guys and the community I serve, I doubt that the word 'evil' comes to mind in even the mildest terms - ever.
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Yes, answering a phone for ten bucks in hour in a call center is a far better job than putting the towers up for eighteen.