alcohol sponsorship (50)

Apr 12, 2012 6:26 PM CST alcohol sponsorship
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
jimbo79: also the audience for it would tend to be more mature in age

at grass root level most funds would be raised locally by the clubs be it gaa soccer or rugby, yeah there is assistance that filters down, but i would use the gaa as an example here and suggest more of an effort be made to find new sponsors, this law will come, the current government are in favour of it but see it as been the wrong time due to the down turn


I don't know Jimbo. I would like to see statistics in relation to this. Golf is a very popular sport now for kids. and while most adults in GAA are not playing anymore so they would not appear in the stats, they are certainly ardent supporters.

Your probably right in so far as it probably will come.
Apr 12, 2012 6:27 PM CST alcohol sponsorship
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
Glengirl: I'm getting seriously worried now, I find myself agreeing with a Dub, living in Cork


I'll learn ya rolling on the floor laughing
Apr 12, 2012 6:28 PM CST alcohol sponsorship
LadyBlackAdder
LadyBlackAdderLadyBlackAdderKillarney, Kerry Ireland24 Threads 2,355 Posts
vinny1967: See this is where I disagree. Of course investing in property is free will. I fail to understand people who like to blame others for mistakes they have made. I know plenty of people who refused to buy in to what the banks were offering because they reckoned that the bubble would eventually burst.

The same applies to advertising. Just because something is advertised does not make us drink it.
We carry our own bread in this world and the blame culture pee's me off no end.

Rant over


The blame culture is the reason that so much effort is being put into creating these protectionist laws. The government wouldn't be doing it except that they are being told they have to do something about these problems. They'll be chopping down trees next because little boys like to climb them and might fall, although boys have been climbing trees since there were boys and trees in any proximity to each other.
Apr 12, 2012 6:36 PM CST alcohol sponsorship
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
LadyBlackAdder: The blame culture is the reason that so much effort is being put into creating these protectionist laws. The government wouldn't be doing it except that they are being told they have to do something about these problems. They'll be chopping down trees next because little boys like to climb them and might fall, although boys have been climbing trees since there were boys and trees in any proximity to each other.


Yeah people like to blame someone else for the predicament they get themselves in instead of taking ownership of their own actions.

I would love our Government to cut back everywhere else, health, social welfare and so on and plough money into education. It would solve a lot of problems.
Apr 13, 2012 2:51 AM CST alcohol sponsorship
jimbo79: recently there has been alot of talk about banning alcohol sponsorship in sporting and cultural events,the Jameson Dublin Film Festival and the Guinness Cork Jazz Festival and many more too, in sport you have guinness involved with hurling and rugby, heineken in rugby and soccer carlsberg are the official drink of the irish soccer team, does it set a bad example to children, or does the money they provide to sport make it acceptable


this government also wants to ban the advertising of cheese ??? saying cheese is making kids fat :/ hmmmmh ..... it just shows what a pack of morons are sitting up there in the dail !!!
Apr 13, 2012 7:17 PM CST alcohol sponsorship
jimbo79
jimbo79jimbo79carlow, Carlow Ireland85 Threads 8 Polls 4,259 Posts
Seafilly: Fair comment, but should parents not teach their children to understand just that?
welcome to the forums by the way gingerbread
Apr 14, 2012 4:29 AM CST alcohol sponsorship
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
jimbo79: it is multi layered but sponsorship is one of those layers, there are options out there just today the gaa announced a 5 million euro deal with etihad airlines, a great coup for the gaa when you consider etihad have only 5 sport sponsorhips in the entire world, it's pure laziness by sporting organizations to say alcohol is the only option


A brilliant coup by the GAA and well deserved. I haven't read anywhere that sporting organisations state it's the only option. That's surprises me cause it's a flawed argument.
Apr 14, 2012 4:44 AM CST alcohol sponsorship
jimbo79
jimbo79jimbo79carlow, Carlow Ireland85 Threads 8 Polls 4,259 Posts
vinny1967: A brilliant coup by the GAA and well deserved. I haven't read anywhere that sporting organisations state it's the only option. That's surprises me cause it's a flawed argument.
on the frontline debate a few weeks back the impression i got from it was that for now this was there only option, i doubt that argument. the gaa has just one alcohol sponsor out of 7. to be honest i never gave this a whole lot of thought until very recently, i'd like to hear the opinions of sports people that have struggled with drink problems views on this, the likes of paul mcgrath
Apr 14, 2012 7:20 AM CST alcohol sponsorship
jimbo79: recently there has been alot of talk about banning alcohol sponsorship in sporting and cultural events,the Jameson Dublin Film Festival and the Guinness Cork Jazz Festival and many more too, in sport you have guinness involved with hurling and rugby, heineken in rugby and soccer carlsberg are the official drink of the irish soccer team, does it set a bad example to children, or does the money they provide to sport make it acceptable


yeah sure we all have freedom of choice if we want to drink we can drink...Its just sponsorship..if I watched a gaa match that was sponsored by guinness i wouldn't start drinking guinness...only a very weak person would do thatireland
Apr 14, 2012 3:56 PM CST alcohol sponsorship
sweetvelvet2
sweetvelvet2sweetvelvet2dublin, Dublin Ireland2 Threads 202 Posts
vinny1967: There are arguments to and for this but I think I would be against the ban.

I fail to understand why our Gov are happy to make money off these products, yet try to restrict them. Its like the proposed smoking ban in cars. I would have far more respect for them if they banned smoking and made it illegal rather than trying to take away our individual choice. If they spent more time and money on education than with these proposed regulations I would be happier as then people would be making a more informed choice.

Also where is the fairness for the bsuiness's. By banning their ability to advertise in sport will they be banning all forms of advertising of their products.......seems a tad askew to me cause other products may take up the slack that may be deemed to be in competition.........e.g. soft drinks. (how bad are some of them for us). It may also hit the funding of sports which may have other detrimental effects.

I say leave it and leave the parents to parenting and spend more money on education.
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