alcohol sponsorship (50)
jimbo79carlow, Carlow Ireland85 Threads 8 Polls 4,259 Postsvinny1967: Yeah I was thinking that myself, but the more we take from the pot the less there is to go around so something is bound to give. Also there is no direct competition to cigarettes so nobody else was gaining at their ban. It could be argued that companies like Lucozade and Coca-Cola would benefit from the ban........I dunno
they are not controlled substances thoughGlengirl: That has always been my point. I'd rather know my kids were in the pub, or at home drinking, than trying to "hide" it by drinking wherever!!!
As usual, we have gone off topic already, and we're only on page one, but I will repeat that I really don't see how advertising by drinks companies is harmful to our kids, it's the culture we live in that is doing the harm
yeah the drink culture we have does the harm, but this has escalated in recent years and imo that is partly down to alcohol sponsorshipAs usual, we have gone off topic already, and we're only on page one, but I will repeat that I really don't see how advertising by drinks companies is harmful to our kids, it's the culture we live in that is doing the harm
jimbo79: they are not controlled substances though
You what
What are controlled substances and how are they regulated differently from 'substances'
Have you ever seen coke clean the oil off the ground
jimbo79: im sure it would not be as easy find sponsors with such big pockets but instead of having one giving alot you ask for less from a few
I can't see that working and imagine a lot of events would just not be run....and times are grim enough on our little Island without that happening!
I would be against a ban purely because I am sick and tired of being dictated to.
I feel every bit of "control" enforced on us is taking away more and more freedom.....but that is just my opinion
jimbo79: yeah the drink culture we have does the harm, but this has escalated in recent years and imo that is partly down to alcohol sponsorship
And we're back to the heel of the hunt.
Personally, alcohol advertising did not influence me in any shape, matter or form. When I see an ad for animal rescue/adoption, I react. The same for famine/disaster zones, but maybe that's just me. I'm of the opinion that just because a sporting event is sponsored by a drinks company, it doesn't mean that it is encouraging young people to drink....
Do any of you actually think any company would sponsor anything if it wasn't in their own interest to do so, it is a form of advertising that just happens to benefit others as well as the said company, and is probably cheaper than taking out ads on telly, newspapers and in other forms of mass media.
Companies like Vodafone, O2, Coke, Pepsi and any other company wanting to push its brand will take over the sponsorships.
Companies like Vodafone, O2, Coke, Pepsi and any other company wanting to push its brand will take over the sponsorships.
Glengirl: And we're back to the heel of the hunt.
Personally, alcohol advertising did not influence me in any shape, matter or form. When I see an ad for animal rescue/adoption, I react. The same for famine/disaster zones, but maybe that's just me. I'm of the opinion that just because a sporting event is sponsored by a drinks company, it doesn't mean that it is encouraging young people to drink....
Personally, alcohol advertising did not influence me in any shape, matter or form. When I see an ad for animal rescue/adoption, I react. The same for famine/disaster zones, but maybe that's just me. I'm of the opinion that just because a sporting event is sponsored by a drinks company, it doesn't mean that it is encouraging young people to drink....
Advertising is much more subliminal than that. It's about constantly keeping images in your mind. I'm sure that Guiness is Good For You. I'm sure A Mars A Day Helps You Work Rest and Play and that Beans Means Heinz. God knows, I was told it often enough. Just why would these companies spend millions on advertising. I assure you, it is not for your benefit or the benefit of the sport involved.
vinny1967: I certainly don't want to live in a Nanny state and the way things are going I would be worried.
i certainly don't want to live in a nanny state eitherI am at a loss to understand how taking more companies out of the possible pool of sponsors will not lead to a loss of income. 
Look at The Irish open and the problems they had attracting a sponsor. By taking more out of the possible pool will lead to less income for the clubs/events/tournaments
Look at The Irish open and the problems they had attracting a sponsor. By taking more out of the possible pool will lead to less income for the clubs/events/tournaments
Godsgift: Advertising is much more subliminal than that. It's about constantly keeping images in your mind. I'm sure that Guiness is Good For You. I'm sure A Mars A Day Helps You Work Rest and Play and that Beans Means Heinz. God knows, I was told it often enough. Just why would these companies spend millions on advertising. I assure you, it is not for your benefit or the benefit of the sport involved.
Of course it's for the benefit of the company, but the original question was, should drink companies be allowed to sponsor sports events? I don't see why not....
vinny1967: I am at a loss to understand how taking more companies out of the possible pool of sponsors will not lead to a loss of income.
Look at The Irish open and the problems they had attracting a sponsor. By taking more out of the possible pool will lead to less income for the clubs/events/tournaments
maybe there is something in that vinny, how come heineken or bud isn't jumping in to sponsor it?Look at The Irish open and the problems they had attracting a sponsor. By taking more out of the possible pool will lead to less income for the clubs/events/tournaments
Godsgift: Advertising is much more subliminal than that. It's about constantly keeping images in your mind. I'm sure that Guiness is Good For You. I'm sure A Mars A Day Helps You Work Rest and Play and that Beans Means Heinz. God knows, I was told it often enough. Just why would these companies spend millions on advertising. I assure you, it is not for your benefit or the benefit of the sport involved.
We do all know the ads and the jingles but I don't know that it makes all that difference. I never smoked inspite of growing up surrounded by smoking advertisements. I don't like Guinness either although I generally love their ads. I don't even like Heinz beans. I prefer Batchelors which are what my mother served up. Ads have a certain influence but are only part of the picture when kids start smoking or drinking. Having sport well sponsored is more beneficial to kids than who sponsors it. There are plenty kids out there who participate in and watch sport and don't drink at all, and plenty who don't pay any attention to sport who do drink. At least if the drink companies sponsor good stuff like sport, the money they are making out of drinkers might do some good. jmo
jimbo79: maybe there is something in that vinny, how come heineken or bud isn't jumping in to sponsor it?
They estimate the return they will get. The prize money now for Golf is astronomical and I guess they decide they will get far better value for money elsewhere.
Advertising is not a bottomless pit and a lot of the sponsorship makes its way down to club level. There would have to be an effect at grass roots level if there is a void as other companies would not have to pay as much to secure the sponsorship because there would be less companies interested.
Glengirl: Of course it's for the benefit of the company, but the original question was, should drink companies be allowed to sponsor sports events? I don't see why not....
Perhaps because there's an epedemic drink problem within our society. This is no accident. We've been steered down this road the same way we were all steered to invest in property. That wasn't free will either.
Godsgift: Perhaps because there's an epedemic drink problem within our society. This is no accident. We've been steered down this road the same way we were all steered to invest in property. That wasn't free will either.
See this is where I disagree. Of course investing in property is free will. I fail to understand people who like to blame others for mistakes they have made. I know plenty of people who refused to buy in to what the banks were offering because they reckoned that the bubble would eventually burst.
The same applies to advertising. Just because something is advertised does not make us drink it.
We carry our own bread in this world and the blame culture pee's me off no end.
Rant over
vinny1967: They estimate the return they will get. The prize money now for Golf is astronomical and I guess they decide they will get far better value for money elsewhere.
Advertising is not a bottomless pit and a lot of the sponsorship makes its way down to club level. There would have to be an effect at grass roots level if there is a void as other companies would not have to pay as much to secure the sponsorship because there would be less companies interested.
also the audience for it would tend to be more mature in ageAdvertising is not a bottomless pit and a lot of the sponsorship makes its way down to club level. There would have to be an effect at grass roots level if there is a void as other companies would not have to pay as much to secure the sponsorship because there would be less companies interested.
at grass root level most funds would be raised locally by the clubs be it gaa soccer or rugby, yeah there is assistance that filters down, but i would use the gaa as an example here and suggest more of an effort be made to find new sponsors, this law will come, the current government are in favour of it but see it as been the wrong time due to the down turn
Godsgift: Perhaps because there's an epedemic drink problem within our society. This is no accident. We've been steered down this road the same way we were all steered to invest in property. That wasn't free will either.
Yes, there is a drink problem in our society, but there is no way on earth you can blame that on advertising!!!!
As for the investment in property, nobody was steered that way, they all saw it as an easy way to make a buck of the "normal Joe Soap".
Snoberism (new word) was the biggest downfall of this great country of ours
Glengirl: Yes, there is a drink problem in our society, but there is no way on earth you can blame that on advertising!!!!
As for the investment in property, nobody was steered that way, they all saw it as an easy way to make a buck of the "normal Joe Soap".
Snoberism (new word) was the biggest downfall of this great country of ours
As for the investment in property, nobody was steered that way, they all saw it as an easy way to make a buck of the "normal Joe Soap".
Snoberism (new word) was the biggest downfall of this great country of ours
Snoberism???? Is that the new word for the people who tried to become the Joneses that everyone else had to keep up with?????
LadyBlackAdder: Snoberism???? Is that the new word for the people who tried to become the Joneses that everyone else had to keep up with?????
That would be it
A close relation of snobbery
vinny1967: See this is where I disagree. Of course investing in property is free will. I fail to understand people who like to blame others for mistakes they have made. I know plenty of people who refused to buy in to what the banks were offering because they reckoned that the bubble would eventually burst.
The same applies to advertising. Just because something is advertised does not make us drink it.
We carry our own bread in this world and the blame culture pee's me off no end.
Rant over
The same applies to advertising. Just because something is advertised does not make us drink it.
We carry our own bread in this world and the blame culture pee's me off no end.
Rant over
I'm getting seriously worried now, I find myself agreeing with a Dub, living in Cork
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