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Jun 16, 2012 12:03 AM CST white house stopping deportations of illegal children
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Nikogas: Can we do that in your Country??....


Of course you can!
Not very bright idea though.

giggle

Nikogas: Can I even "own" land in "YOUR" Country?


doh



Nikogas: well???????



What is your point if you have any.


wine
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Jun 16, 2012 12:11 AM CST white house stopping deportations of illegal children
At least 1/3rd of America was once Mexico, and look what the invaders have gained, NOTHING.
Give the people of this land their rights back and I hope and pray they can do better than the invaders.
jmhobowing
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Jun 16, 2012 12:11 AM CST white house stopping deportations of illegal children
Nikogas
NikogasNikogasMetro, Oregon USA46 Threads 5 Polls 4,037 Posts
lifeisadream: Of course you can!
Not very bright idea though.



What is your point if you have any.

I can go there illegally and be treated well?
really?
I think that not really the case...I think that going there even "legally" is dangerous enough. But I would not expect you to answer any different than the way you are right now.
You have said it yourself many times.
and it is so true.. " seething"
So drink your wine ,,,and sit on that high horse.
suits you fine.
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Jun 16, 2012 12:19 AM CST white house stopping deportations of illegal children
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Nikogas: I can go there illegally and be treated well?
really?....


If you are illegal in Mexico you could be treated the same way that illegals are treated in US or it could be different for better or worse.


Nikogas: ....
I think that not really the case...I think that going there even "legally" is dangerous enough. But I would not expect you to answer any different than the way you are right now.

You have said it yourself many times.
and it is so true.. " seething"

So drink your wine ,,,and sit on that high horse.
suits you fine.


Then why to waste your time or mine?

Do your homework -do not be lazzzzy- if you want to discuss a subject even if we never agree.



And certainly I need not your permit to enjoy my red wine.



wine
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Jun 16, 2012 12:39 AM CST white house stopping deportations of illegal children
Nikogas
NikogasNikogasMetro, Oregon USA46 Threads 5 Polls 4,037 Posts
lifeisadream: If you are illegal in Mexico you could be treated the same way that illegals are treated in US or it could be different for better or worse.

Then why to waste your time or mine?

Do your homework -do not be lazzzzy- if you want to discuss a subject even if we never agree.
And certainly I need not your permit to enjoy my red wine.


I wonder how you really can. So, the "Lazy" comment??? "stuff it"
maybe it will go with your wine.

I have read your "judgements" ever since day one. You really are not the only person out there that feels the way you do. And yes, I am talking about people that live in Mexico, Sometimes I wonder if you believe you are an Ambassador or something...thankfully not the case.
Viszlat!
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Jun 16, 2012 5:49 AM CST white house stopping deportations of illegal children
Iseek
IseekIseekWaterford, Ireland2 Threads 455 Posts
lifeisadream: Hi Felixis!

Keep in mind that is an International forum, therefore anyone is entitled to his/her own opinion on any subject anywhere in the planet.

A forum just for the whole US would be perfect but any one from any other country could voice his/her opinion on any subject in that forum or any other.
What's more, it does not matter what we say here!


Very True thumbs up
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Jun 16, 2012 6:07 AM CST white house stopping deportations of illegal children
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
zjimjames: Obama was not born in Hawaii. If that is a Canadian moment, then you people need to wake up! Last time I checked, Kenya was in Africa.


YOU were there and witnessed Obama being born wherever YOU claim for it to be? and what has Kenya got to do with where Obama was born and this thread? because his father was born in Kenya?

I wonder if Obama's birth place would be an issue if his father was not born in Kenya but in Denmark, for example. By the way, do you know that John McCain was not born in continental US but in the Panama Canal.

This posting of yours really tells us a lot about you and your way of thinking.
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Jun 16, 2012 6:26 AM CST white house stopping deportations of illegal children
Iseek
IseekIseekWaterford, Ireland2 Threads 455 Posts
equiya: and this is all about kids brought to the US illegally through no fault of their own. Their parents came to the US illegally.

I just saw on CNN a Neurosurpeon at Johns Hopkins who came to the US illegally from Mexico with his parents in the late 80s. He went to Harvard. Wow!


Yes, very true.. The sins/wrongs of the parents now visited upon the children, many of whom know, no other way of life...

That is a very good point, one never sees the stats on the success rate, In other words how many illegals or children of illegals are playing a full and active part in society, how many have gone on to professions such as your example Neurosurgeon...

Good point..
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Jun 16, 2012 6:35 AM CST white house stopping deportations of illegal children
pops666
pops666pops666Waterloo,ontario, Ontario Canada4 Threads 1,387 Posts
See the OP doesnt bother to include the fact of those born and raised in the country that are "true citizens" that are not a benefit to society...

Every country has members of society that are illegals that do more for the country than those known as true permanent citizens...

JMHO
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Jun 16, 2012 6:57 AM CST white house stopping deportations of illegal children
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
pops666: See the OP doesnt bother to include the fact of those born and raised in the country that are "true citizens" that are not a benefit to society...

Every country has members of society that are illegals that do more for the country than those known as true permanent citizens...

JMHO


Yes, thank you Pops.

Here where I live there is a lady from Russia, not Canadian citizen yet, has only been in Canada 2 years, in a wheelchair with MD, someone married her, brought her here and divorced her after she got here and got into Ontario Disability Support Program and CCAC home health care assistance funded with tax payers money, is now on social assistance, does not even work. so people don't always contribute to society or pay taxes even if they entered the country legally.

This Neurosurgeon is now an American citizen and also a Professor at the Johns Hopkins medical school - a brain surgeon saving the lives of people with brain tumours and brain injuries.

I think these kids deserve a second chance.
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Jun 16, 2012 6:57 AM CST white house stopping deportations of illegal children
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
pops666: See the OP doesnt bother to include the fact of those born and raised in the country that are "true citizens" that are not a benefit to society...

Every country has members of society that are illegals that do more for the country than those known as true permanent citizens...

JMHO


Yes, thank you Pops.

Here where I live there is a lady from Russia, not Canadian citizen yet, has only been in Canada 2 years, in a wheelchair with MD, someone married her, brought her here and divorced her after she got here and got into Ontario Disability Support Program and CCAC home health care assistance funded with tax payers money, is now on social assistance, does not even work. so people don't always contribute to society or pay taxes even if they entered the country legally.

This Neurosurgeon is now an American citizen and also a Professor at the Johns Hopkins medical school - a brain surgeon saving the lives of people with brain tumours and brain injuries.

I think these kids deserve a second chance.
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Jun 16, 2012 7:02 AM CST white house stopping deportations of illegal children
pops666
pops666pops666Waterloo,ontario, Ontario Canada4 Threads 1,387 Posts
equiya: Yes, thank you Pops.

Here where I live there is a lady from Russia, not Canadian citizen yet, has only been in Canada 2 years, in a wheelchair with MD, someone married her, brought her here and divorced her after she got here and got into Ontario Disability Support Program and CCAC home health care assistance funded with tax payers money, is now on social assistance, does not even work. so people don't always contribute to society or pay taxes even if they entered the country legally.

This Neurosurgeon is now an American citizen and also a Professor at the Johns Hopkins medical school - a brain surgeon saving the lives of people with brain tumours and brain injuries.

Thats what the OP forgets...there are many that are a great success story...why focus only on the ones that dont contribute...I see many young people who were raised here come into our shop...work couple days and quit...looking for free ride...yet we have 3 gentleman all spanish and immigrants that work hard and smile everyday as productive citizens..

I think these kids deserve a second chance.
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Jun 16, 2012 7:04 AM CST white house stopping deportations of illegal children
pops666
pops666pops666Waterloo,ontario, Ontario Canada4 Threads 1,387 Posts
some how got mixed in with your comment
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Jun 16, 2012 7:32 AM CST white house stopping deportations of illegal children
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
pops666: some how got mixed in with your comment


I don't agree with illegal immigration. I immigrated to Canada LEGALLY (I came to Canada as a permanent resident from day 1. I applied and got in) but I still think these kids deserve a second chance to correct the mistakes of their parents who brought them to the US illegally. they may be in the US illegally now but the only country and home they know is in the US.

Our former Prime Minister Jean Chretien used to say for every Canadian who moves to the US I get 3 productive immigrants in their place.
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Jun 16, 2012 2:10 PM CST white house stopping deportations of illegal children
Iseek
IseekIseekWaterford, Ireland2 Threads 455 Posts
equiya: Yes, thank you Pops.

Here where I live there is a lady from Russia, not Canadian citizen yet, has only been in Canada 2 years, in a wheelchair with MD, someone married her, brought her here and divorced her after she got here and got into Ontario Disability Support Program and CCAC home health care assistance funded with tax payers money, is now on social assistance, does not even work. so people don't always contribute to society or pay taxes even if they entered the country legally.

This Neurosurgeon is now an American citizen and also a Professor at the Johns Hopkins medical school - a brain surgeon saving the lives of people with brain tumours and brain injuries.

I think these kids deserve a second chance.



Another thing that I have not seen stated here is the fact that illegals can work pay taxes, but are no allowed to claim rebates etc. Also just on an American interview show it was stated that Illegals can serve in the US army and in fact there is a large number of Hispanics currently serving.
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Jun 16, 2012 5:04 PM CST white house stopping deportations of illegal children
pops666
pops666pops666Waterloo,ontario, Ontario Canada4 Threads 1,387 Posts
equiya: I don't agree with illegal immigration. I immigrated to Canada LEGALLY (I came to Canada as a permanent resident from day 1. I applied and got in) but I still think these kids deserve a second chance to correct the mistakes of their parents who brought them to the US illegally. they may be in the US illegally now but the only country and home they know is in the US.

Our former Prime Minister Jean Chretien used to say for every Canadian who moves to the US I get 3 productive immigrants in their place.


He did have alot of good points even if most didnt like the man
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Jun 17, 2012 9:03 AM CST white house stopping deportations of illegal children
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Nikogas: I have read your "judgements" ever since day one. You really are not the only person out there that feels the way you do. And yes, I am talking about people that live in Mexico, Sometimes I wonder if you believe you are an Ambassador or something...thankfully not the case.
Viszlat!


Don't you have something more interesting to do?

Day one?

confused

What day I am on now?



Nikogas: I wonder how you really can. So, the "Lazy" comment??? "stuff it"
maybe it will go with your wine.....



rolling on the floor laughing



Is that the best you can do?

No wonder.



coffee

(it is too early here for my red wine)
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Jun 17, 2012 9:21 AM CST white house stopping deportations of illegal children
Nikogas
NikogasNikogasMetro, Oregon USA46 Threads 5 Polls 4,037 Posts
lifeisadream: Don't you have something more interesting to do?

Day one?
What day I am on now?

Is that the best you can do?

No wonder.


(it is too early here for my red wine)


the best I can do???? just what is it you expect??? and why on earth would you even want to engage me unless you are just trying to brew up some kind of argument. Wow. Good Morning to you too.
doh
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Jun 18, 2012 9:47 AM CST white house stopping deportations of illegal children
john12196341
john12196341john12196341jamestown, North Dakota USA53 Threads 684 Posts
it is sad when people defend those who break the law especially when it comes to illegals coming into our nation to reap the benefits that are meant for those who are here legally. they come here,work,send their paychecks back to mexico and get on welfare at the expence of the american taxpayer. it doesn't matter if they are adults or children. they all should go back to their own nation and live there. the majority of amercans oppose illegals living here in the u.s. i support closing the borders to illegals from any nation. this president choose to go against the will of the people and bypass congress which is unlawful. he is only doing it to get the hispanic vote. i have nothing against those individuals if they go by the rules but when they break the law then it is time to deport them back. we have our own people to worry about,making jobs and etc. those children who are here illegally get free benefits and get to go to college for free while our children have to pay the full amount after they graduate by paying back loans. there is nothing crule about deporting them it is the law abd this president don't follow the law at all. he thinks he can do whatever he pleases. that is being a dictator and king
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Jun 18, 2012 2:13 PM CST white house stopping deportations of illegal children
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
Sounds like you were outwitted by a 5 year old[/quote

That bit was quite funny!! laugh


What wasn´t was the mother´s role in encouraging the behaviour.
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