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Dec 7, 2012 10:47 AM CST The Imperial Presidency
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
Rep. Cantor Releases Report On The Imperial Presidency
Rep. Eric Cantor (VA-07)


Washington, Oct 23 - The Office of House Majority Leader Eric Cantor released a report, The Imperial Presidency, to make clear that the result of President Obama's disregard for the legislative process has been a breakdown in the rule of law which has reduced economic growth and individual prosperity.

Majority Leader Cantor's office stated:

"President Obama’s term in office has been characterized by weak economic growth, historic debt, high unemployment, and unprecedented disregard for legislative authority and the separation of powers. Clear, transparent, predictable rules that are applied without preference help create certainty and allow individuals to invest, build businesses, and create jobs. When there is a breakdown in the rule of law, increased uncertainty leads to reduced investment and less growth. The Committees of the House of Representatives have investigated and documented numerous breakdowns in the rule of law and this report showcases over 40 such examples."

Please visit to read the full report.
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Dec 7, 2012 5:00 PM CST The Imperial Presidency
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
No comments on this???
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Dec 8, 2012 9:48 PM CST The Imperial Presidency
Foxmaine
FoxmaineFoxmainecookeville, Tennessee USA22 Threads 191 Posts
HealthyLiving: No comments on this???


Well right now we are waiting to see if any of the court cases running are going to see Obamanation be behind bars in Fed pen. Taitz just got a subpoena for Obamanations Occidental College records.
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Dec 8, 2012 11:04 PM CST The Imperial Presidency
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
HealthyLiving: No comments on this???


I just got here.

I think everybody realizes that Obama considers himself above the law.

So did Bush.

Both are puppets of the same moneyed elite.

Not much hope of change for the better anytime soon either.
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Dec 8, 2012 11:10 PM CST The Imperial Presidency
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
HealthyLiving: No comments on this???


Obama acted within his executive powers, he is not impeached.
What is your complaint.

That he exercised his executive powers.


Or what he exercised them on``````
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Dec 8, 2012 11:25 PM CST The Imperial Presidency
Mysst
MysstMysstSpringfield, Missouri USA8 Threads 1 Polls 181 Posts
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Dec 9, 2012 11:07 AM CST The Imperial Presidency
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
tomcatwarne: Obama acted within his executive powers, he is not impeached.
What is your complaint.

That he exercised his executive powers.Or what he exercised them on``````



When and by what means did the president ever receive any supposed "executive powers" that allow him to rule by decree? Never.

It's just that through corruption various administrations began to exceed the powers accorded to the presidency, and, also by corruption, Congress and the supreme court failed to act to prevent it from happening.

And so now the precedent has been set to allow the president to rule as a virtual dictator, and the constitutional separation of powers has been shredded.

Nowadays presidents simply rule by decree. They are temporary appointed dictators, loyal not to the country but to the ruling moneyed elite that pull their strings.
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Dec 9, 2012 11:10 AM CST The Imperial Presidency
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
They all dance to the very same tune.Their campaign contribs.
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Dec 9, 2012 11:11 AM CST The Imperial Presidency
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
RayfromUSA: When and by what means did the president ever receive any supposed "executive powers" that allow him to rule by decree? Never.

It's just that through corruption various administrations began to exceed the powers accorded to the presidency, and, also by corruption, Congress and the supreme court failed to act to prevent it from happening.

And so now the precedent has been set to allow the president to rule as a virtual dictator, and the constitutional separation of powers has been shredded.

Nowadays presidents simply rule by decree. They are temporary appointed dictators, loyal not to the country but to the ruling moneyed elite that pull their strings.



Welcome to my world Raygrin
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Dec 9, 2012 1:17 PM CST The Imperial Presidency
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
It doesn't really matter which party's pigs are fatter.
They are all bred on the same globalist farm.
They are set in place above us, not to care for us or love us,
but to rob us of our wealth and do us harm.
Piglets like Barack Obama are but actors in the drama.
In the end they'll wind up on their master's table.
All the mediatic spin is but lies from start to end.
It's just there to lend some credence to the fable.
Yes Obama's acting regal, doing things that are not legal
But the other party's guys did just the same.
They are nothing but bit actors, minor un-important factors
It's the banks and financiers who run the game.
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Dec 9, 2012 1:30 PM CST The Imperial Presidency
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
tomcatwarne: Welcome to my world Ray


Yours and Obama's.
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Dec 9, 2012 1:56 PM CST The Imperial Presidency
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
The puppet's agenda.




Who says Obama hasn't created any jobs?
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Dec 9, 2012 1:56 PM CST The Imperial Presidency
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
Obama, remember that emperor
who burned their capital town
while happily played his lyre.
Don't forget the U.S. empire
don't forgive and turns down
those who betray the voter.
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Dec 9, 2012 7:52 PM CST The Imperial Presidency
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
EXECUTIVE ORDER DEFINED: Under the Constitution, the president is vested with the executive power of the government (Article II, Section 1, clause 1), the power to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution" (Article II, Section 1, clause 7), and the power to see that the laws are faithfully executed (Article II, Section 3). From these powers is implied the authority to issue "executive orders."

Actually, the term "executive order" has never been defined by Congress. And the validity of executive orders has been questioned many times over the years, at least dating back to Lincoln' executive measures, bypassing Congress, taken during the Civil War, as mentioned above. However, a ruling as to the extent or limit to which they may be used has never been determined by the courts or by Congress.


tomcatwarne: Obama acted within his executive powers, he is not impeached.
What is your complaint.

That he exercised his executive powers.Or what he exercised them on``````



RayfromUSA: When and by what means did the president ever receive any supposed "executive powers" that allow him to rule by decree? Never.

It's just that through corruption various administrations began to exceed the powers accorded to the presidency, and, also by corruption, Congress and the supreme court failed to act to prevent it from happening.

And so now the precedent has been set to allow the president to rule as a virtual dictator, and the constitutional separation of powers has been shredded.

Nowadays presidents simply rule by decree. They are temporary appointed dictators, loyal not to the country but to the ruling moneyed elite that pull their strings.



My question is this... Why has the "implied" executive order never been defined by Congress nor the extents or limits been determined by the Courts or Congress??? Why has this been left Wide Open???
HLdunno
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