Dagosto: Alcohol (not necessarily wine) goes way way back, and its mind-altering properties likely had somewhat to do with worship, originally.
I've read that beer, in fact, is the world's oldest manufactury (meaning, produced in excess for trade, beyond one's own consumption). This, attributed to the Beaker People of prehistoric Spain.
I agree with you. Alcohol is very old. But alcohol is prepared easiest from sugar, from sugar containig fruits through fermentation and filtration. This are wines. 12-14%
From corns, which contain amidon, first is required a conversion of amidon to sugar using malt, and next fermentation and filtration. This are beers.5-8%
When you distilate it, heating, boiling it and cooling, condensing, then you increase the strentght an alcohol concentration.... you can go up to 80% alcohol. from corn the Wiskey,Vodka, from fruits/wine the Brandy >40%
Higher is already industrial technology, I can explain to you but no reason.
From technological point of view, have no proof, but is more probable that wine was first and next beer. Of course depends on region too. Corns or Fruits decided the evolution too in some region.
This was very short. I worked enough in this branch so I do not drink alcohol, if possible.
Noah invented wine? I best read the bible, sure to get more interesting answers to life changing questions... I don't think any answer is stupid, I think each is entitled to their own opinions and are free to discuss them openly amongst fellow posters without being attacked. Cleanliness is next to Godliness
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
I was trying to tease Chris for his comment “what the point of the thread IS?” in reference to one of Christ’s threads (the Greek words) but thanks any way Dagosto.
Dagosto: Yes, it is derived from a Greek word, oenus I believe.
The Romans, who celebrated wine, credited the Greeks with it, and the Greeks of classical antiquity were happy to take credit. But there's evidence the Greeks themselves acquired it from elsewhere, likely Anatolia or Cyprus or the Levant. Bacchus, the Greek god of wine, was considered a relative newcomer to the pantheon, and his most celebrated mythological adventures involved seafaring from the east. That points to acquisition from somewhere eastward.
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I've read that beer, in fact, is the world's oldest manufactury (meaning, produced in excess for trade, beyond one's own consumption). This, attributed to the Beaker People of prehistoric Spain.
I agree with you. Alcohol is very old.
But alcohol is prepared easiest from sugar, from sugar containig fruits through fermentation and filtration. This are wines. 12-14%
From corns, which contain amidon, first is required a conversion of amidon to sugar using malt, and next fermentation and filtration. This are beers.5-8%
When you distilate it, heating, boiling it and cooling, condensing, then you increase the strentght an alcohol concentration.... you can go up to 80% alcohol.
from corn the Wiskey,Vodka, from fruits/wine the Brandy >40%
Higher is already industrial technology, I can explain to you but no reason.
From technological point of view, have no proof, but is more probable that wine was first and next beer. Of course depends on region too. Corns or Fruits decided the evolution too in some region.
This was very short.
I worked enough in this branch so I do not drink alcohol, if possible.