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Nov 28, 2006 10:35 AM CST A Reccommendation
highplains
highplainshighplainsHighland Springs, Virginia USA127 Threads 4,288 Posts
Not so long ago...one of the major ISPs had a chat service. In that chat service they had "moderators" that wielded a gavel next to their name. Said moderator had the discretion to kick people out of the chat room for indiscretions or abusive behavior. They could kick people out for one minute.....a half hour....or all day...depending on the violation. It worked out well. I was a moderator for about a year. We had to sign in and sign out with a "chief moderator" before we had the ability to use our gavel. Very neat concept. I think that having someone "gaveled" in CS would clean up alot of the abusive behavior and removal of some obnoxious folks for a bit to cool off before it gets out of hand. Thoughts?
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Nov 28, 2006 10:37 AM CST A Reccommendation
StarMan101
StarMan101StarMan101126 Posts
but .. don't botbher us Drunkards!!!!!!!
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Nov 28, 2006 10:41 AM CST A Reccommendation
AdventureBegins
AdventureBeginsAdventureBeginsZanesville, USA66 Threads 1,718 Posts
Not a bad idea but who hasn't got an axe to grind about one subject or another.

Would be hard to determine who could or would be fair about such a thing.

Some people it would be obvious to gavel into a time out. Others while somewhat distasteful in their postings are still intitled to post their opinions and do so with out doing anything but irritating others.

Would sort of be a limit on free speach which I can not support.
AB
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Nov 28, 2006 11:08 AM CST A Reccommendation
Butterfly
ButterflyButterflyMobile, Alabama USA3 Threads 852 Posts
Great concept, I've seen this done in chatrooms as well. I think such a moderator would do better giving a warning in private email to the person or persons who are getting out of hand. We can see where it's going, why let them rant and rave for 15 pages about the same thing? And if they chose to ignore the warning and continue, then shut them down. Having a different opinion has nothing to do with arguing for the sake of arguing. Most of these rants have no objective or opinion, the people just seem to repeat themselves over and over, etc. And when it gets personal and name calling starts, that's a clear sign that it has gone from free speech to defamation of character, which is not anyone's right. JMO
cool
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Nov 28, 2006 11:19 AM CST A Reccommendation
Bad idea. Mods who actively participate in chat rooms and on forums and who are known to the other members are not biased. They have different perspectives on what's to be considered abusive or obnoxious. I think keeping the mods "undercover" is the best approach and I also think that SPECIFIC guidelines as to what is acceptable or not acceptable should be laid out. For example, supposedly it is against the rules here to use foul language. Well, it's obvious that applies to some people and not to others, because I see it used here quite often by certain people and those people never seem to suffer any repercussions from it. Also, guidelines should be laid out as to what's considered "foul." Is "damn" acceptable? "Hell?" Anything else?

I think another thing that would help is if they had active mods on duty to stop fights before they get out of hand. For example, I've often wondered why moderators/admin on a site will let this "back and forth" go on between two posters for a ridiculous amount of time and not do a thing about it, despite people bringing it to their attention on numerous occasions.

And I think that people who are put into a position of having to defend themselves, because mods are either unwilling or unable to stop the instigator, should have the right to do that, without fear of repercussion, either.

That's my .02, anyway. I'm surprised this approach hasn't been taken before.

dunno
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Nov 28, 2006 11:21 AM CST A Reccommendation
nwnstar
nwnstarnwnstarConway, USA38 Threads 5,464 Posts
and i personally don't think there should be any censorship at all.

a person's behavior takes care of all that...
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Nov 28, 2006 11:42 AM CST A Reccommendation
nwnstar
nwnstarnwnstarConway, USA38 Threads 5,464 Posts
the thing is...even when it's offensive, we can make the choice to just stay out.

and if nobody reads the posters comments, nobody replies...they generally get the hint.

i personally think we have not enough leeway.
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Nov 28, 2006 12:30 PM CST A Reccommendation
TabooN
TabooNTabooNClaremont, USA47 Threads 12,843 Posts
there ya go..

feed the fire...yes?

I have seen many of those chats. Alot have chat bots...

The ones my daughter went to for kids had adults...and pervs...

I hate chatrooms.

And, anyone wanting to put a gavel over my head? yeah right, lol.

The idea is good, though. Just won't work.
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Nov 28, 2006 12:44 PM CST A Reccommendation
SirenLydia
SirenLydiaSirenLydiaBury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England UK45 Threads 2 Polls 4,138 Posts
I agree with Burt, the idea of moderators diffusing situations is good. Often just talking in private chat can set someone straight and they settle down often.

It's only very few who come in just to cause mayhem and make it unpleasant for all.

I have to admit to having been a moderator on a chat room over here.
I do think I prefer forums to chat rooms.
And personally feel there is far too much freedom given here. Making the forums very nasty far too often.





peace devil
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Nov 28, 2006 12:45 PM CST A Reccommendation
TabooN
TabooNTabooNClaremont, USA47 Threads 12,843 Posts
I just wonder how it'll change the kids and idiots from coming to forums for reaction?

They'll get they're kicks regardless of where it is. Wouldn't it give them just one more option to go to?

It does stop other from hacking chats in other places, and does not stop them from reapplying in other names...
My daughter and her freind did an experiment at DA chats. And, that stuff is messed up, lol. They got kicked out on purpose, and reentered under at least twenty different names...
That said, they wondered what would stop a preditor from entering regardless of the rules?
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Nov 28, 2006 12:51 PM CST A Reccommendation
iRon12345
iRon12345iRon12345Tempe, USA35 Threads 2,473 Posts
I think we should all act like adults and get along rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing professor rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 28, 2006 1:03 PM CST A Reccommendation
I can discuss anything, too, as a topic of intellectual discussion, but I wouldn't want to see someone in here talking about beastility as if it was "normal." That's cruelty to animals, if nothing else.

I think, though, that, within boundaries, most anything should be allowed to be discussed and mild to moderate expletives should be allowed. People should be forewarned that there is the likelihood that material contained in the forums may well be offensive to them and to "participate at your own risk."

I don't think that (outside of blantant, offensive material or trollish behavior) material that is considered offensive to one or a few people should be censored. If everytime someone was offended a post/thread was deleted, then forums would cease to exist.

I know of other sites with forum discussions I swear you'd think you were being monitored by the KGfreakingB.
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Nov 28, 2006 1:07 PM CST A Reccommendation
TabooN
TabooNTabooNClaremont, USA47 Threads 12,843 Posts
it can feel mighty powerful getting button happy...

It's a mistake.

And, there are excellent souls here that just don't bother with threads if they're rediculous...

I can't stand losing the good threads to "do you balls hang low..." threads... And, since I hear it from middle school kids often, to think adults are doing it is just disturbing, lmao
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Nov 28, 2006 1:08 PM CST A Reccommendation
nwnstar
nwnstarnwnstarConway, USA38 Threads 5,464 Posts
not to mention...i WANT to read what someone truly has to say.

if they've said something offensive...i WANT the world to be able to read it and make an informed opinion.

i mean...look at our pal with the halo on his head...if all those women in his life could read all this...lol...
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Nov 28, 2006 1:12 PM CST A Reccommendation
You have made an excellent point. If nothing else, freedom from censorship is a very effective way of weeding out the whackos. Weedwhackos...lol...forum gardening, as it were. They are the whackos..and we are the hoes.

yay
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Nov 28, 2006 1:14 PM CST A Reccommendation
nwnstar
nwnstarnwnstarConway, USA38 Threads 5,464 Posts
for some reason, that really freaking cracked me up.
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Nov 28, 2006 1:15 PM CST A Reccommendation
But what if they're really a dumba**?

I'm not talking about someone who isn't particularly intelligent, either, I'm talking about someone who is purposefully being antagonistic and saying really stupid things just to stir up arguments.

I totally disagree with having the visible presence of authority. The rules are laid out already. It's the ambiguity with which those rules are enforced (or not enforced) that's always been the main problem in forums such as these.
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Nov 28, 2006 1:15 PM CST A Reccommendation
Maybe because it was really funny!

wink yay
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Nov 28, 2006 1:28 PM CST A Reccommendation
TabooN
TabooNTabooNClaremont, USA47 Threads 12,843 Posts
The idea behind it is good. But, again, it won't work.

And,

There are already phoneys all around the forums.
Then we weed through forced good behavior?

I agree some offenses are uncalled for, and usually deleted and taken care of...
But, then we have the sheep that protest, cause hell to break out...
There already is a disciplinary(sp) action. Why a chatroom? Most people have messenegers...

Forums are a place to be who we are, yes?
Who decides when a few folks are offended because they chose to be?
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Nov 28, 2006 1:29 PM CST A Reccommendation
highplains
highplainshighplainsHighland Springs, Virginia USA127 Threads 4,288 Posts
The only folks that would be intimidated are the ones that don't do anything wrong to start with, that's the bad thing. Being able to run amok and post thread after thread after thread. I say drop the hammer on 'em.
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