Losing your religion? (364)
JonquillePeace is its own reward, Ontario Canada98 Threads 897 PostsYet all are welcome to share. This is surely a safe venue.
woah! like someone has dictacted her life!
Is that what I said? If she is Catholic her beliefs are no mystery.
I would never assume that all adherents to any one religion share identical beliefs. There are core beliefs to be sure, but each of us surely casts a subjective overlay.
Our life's experiences cannot help but affect how we think and act despite dogma.
Our life's experiences cannot help but affect how we think and act despite dogma.
Words are not envisionned in the same way by everyone...(now I hope you get what I mean..envisionned..is a word right?
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)Oh yeah, because Catholicism is so unstructured and lenient. The rules are clearly spelled out, and if you're Catholic you buy into it, or aren't Catholic.
I have no issues with Catholics, or any other religion. But when you start bending something to fit you, drop the label at least. If you're Catholic, it's all spelled out. They even have a little book you might have heard of ... what's it called again ... oh yeah, the Bible.
I have no issues with Catholics, or any other religion. But when you start bending something to fit you, drop the label at least. If you're Catholic, it's all spelled out. They even have a little book you might have heard of ... what's it called again ... oh yeah, the Bible.
yes my dear, it is. Only one "n" though.Had you been raised Catholic you'd have found that even from parish to parish there are differing beliefs. No two priests interpret the Word exactly the same way.
In the 1940s my mother was threatened with excommunication should she act as bridesmaid for a Protestant friend. These days that is no longer an issue for Catholics. Nothing in the Bible governs that situation.
In the 1940s my mother was threatened with excommunication should she act as bridesmaid for a Protestant friend. These days that is no longer an issue for Catholics. Nothing in the Bible governs that situation.
Yea and St Christopher is no longer a saint. Big deal, the Catholic Church changes the rules all the time, and the priests interpret it as they see fit. You're referring to small matters, not issues of faith.
Last I checked some Jesus guy was crucified for our sins. Holy trinity, etc. All the real stuff is laid out loud and clear. When the Church changes a rule or two you follow or are unworthy.
Last I checked some Jesus guy was crucified for our sins. Holy trinity, etc. All the real stuff is laid out loud and clear. When the Church changes a rule or two you follow or are unworthy.
"All the real stuff is laid out loud and clear"???
Now who's vague? The Church changing rules = humans changing rules. Purity is not assured.
Now who's vague? The Church changing rules = humans changing rules. Purity is not assured.
What's it matter who's changing them? The Vatican does at it sees fit, good Catholics follow. Recovering Catholic, Liberal Catholic, non-practicing Catholic ... bleh bleh bleh. You're Catholic or you aren't. Either you buy into the whole set of guidelines or you're not a Catholic. You can have a majority of Catholic beliefs, but you aren't Catholic if you don't blindly accept it all.
Spin it any way you want, if you are a member of any religion, you buy the whole bit or you aren't a member. They're all just bloody labels. If you believe in God, Christ, Buddha, Mohammed ... whatever, I don't care. Beleieve or disbleieve whatever you want, but if you're a member you buy it all. If you don't and want to think about it, you're lacking in faith and should lose the label. So if someone is a Catholic they have nothing different to say than any other Catholic, as far as I'm concerned.
Now of course that's my slant on it, feel free to tell me yours.
Spin it any way you want, if you are a member of any religion, you buy the whole bit or you aren't a member. They're all just bloody labels. If you believe in God, Christ, Buddha, Mohammed ... whatever, I don't care. Beleieve or disbleieve whatever you want, but if you're a member you buy it all. If you don't and want to think about it, you're lacking in faith and should lose the label. So if someone is a Catholic they have nothing different to say than any other Catholic, as far as I'm concerned.
Now of course that's my slant on it, feel free to tell me yours.
How does a well-meaning, devout Catholic make sense of their priest disallowing something which a priest in the next parish embraces?
How can one follow blindly when there is more than one path within one faith? How can one "buy the whole bit" when the menu varies from parish to parish, city to city, country to country?
How can one follow blindly when there is more than one path within one faith? How can one "buy the whole bit" when the menu varies from parish to parish, city to city, country to country?
Hi Gibs,
I am Catholic. Being Catholic is part of who I am.
I am fifty years old. I did not become Catholic until I was over forty five years old. I was raised in the Anglican Church. I spent a lot of time outside of a Church, as an adult. I attended an Evangelical Church for about five years. I could not find answers or a peaceful place to be at that Church. So - I had to search further back. At one point, I thought that I would have to become Jewish in order to find my "sense of peace". However, I found my "sense of peace" in the Catholic Church. I have not been to Mass for a while - however, I should go. The belief system of the Catholic Faith makes a whole lot of sense to me.
Kindest of Regards,
Lorraine.
I am Catholic. Being Catholic is part of who I am.
I am fifty years old. I did not become Catholic until I was over forty five years old. I was raised in the Anglican Church. I spent a lot of time outside of a Church, as an adult. I attended an Evangelical Church for about five years. I could not find answers or a peaceful place to be at that Church. So - I had to search further back. At one point, I thought that I would have to become Jewish in order to find my "sense of peace". However, I found my "sense of peace" in the Catholic Church. I have not been to Mass for a while - however, I should go. The belief system of the Catholic Faith makes a whole lot of sense to me.
Kindest of Regards,
Lorraine.
Glad to hear you're watching and still interested. Will look forward to your post tomorrow. Sleep well...
I have no issue with that whatsoever. If you're Catholic and believe, great 
Ask a Catholic.
Gee, another person disagreeing with me ... I'm shocked 
Sorry Gibs, I'm asking YOU... in response to your comments on following blindly. Don't attempt to brush it off with "ask a Catholic" when you took on the debate.
You follow whoever and whatever your 'leader' (priest or whatever)tells you to. Be it the local priest or the directives passed down from the Vatican.
I'd like to see a Catholic stand up in Chruch and say yeah, this all works for me ... except this whole Jesus bit, I don't buy that part. See how long they're a Catholic.
Free thought doesn't exist. You and the Church ladies can tell me all you wish, and spin it any way you see fit. You believe and follow or you're not a Catholic, or whatever the religion might be.
Show me a Catholic that says Jesus didn't exist. Show me a Catholic that disagrees with anything in the bible.
I'd like to see a Catholic stand up in Chruch and say yeah, this all works for me ... except this whole Jesus bit, I don't buy that part. See how long they're a Catholic.
Free thought doesn't exist. You and the Church ladies can tell me all you wish, and spin it any way you see fit. You believe and follow or you're not a Catholic, or whatever the religion might be.
Show me a Catholic that says Jesus didn't exist. Show me a Catholic that disagrees with anything in the bible.
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