wars of greed ( Archived) (37)

Feb 23, 2015 8:50 AM CST wars of greed
Yes indeed a most honorable excuse for all humanity's failure to respect and unite. Perhaps will never change.
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Feb 23, 2015 8:52 AM CST wars of greed
Ccincy: I suppose there are things which could be classified as being evil.


Cc you and I have seen most of them, and I am sure we have a say or two on the recent ones.

Nice to see you here.
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Feb 23, 2015 8:55 AM CST wars of greed
galrads: I believe greed is good, especially in a capitalistic society where trust doesn't exist in family or corporate entities. It's an incentive to succeed, to support oneself; unlike communist, Marxists types who are driven only to depend on the state (government).


I meant greed in the execution of most unethical and selfish ways. But in the case of Bill Gates and his like, yes it serves the purpose of practicing democratic principles, a most medium of self success and independence according to Ayn Rand.
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Feb 23, 2015 8:57 AM CST wars of greed
GUZMAN1: Religion is just another face of culture. Social rules that makes a difference between people who lives in the same land by the same means.

There's evil in many thoughts, when these become prejudices. But there's evil also in bad actions. No need to call this sins.
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Feb 23, 2015 9:00 AM CST wars of greed
Guzman, that another face of culture can cause the extinction of mankind when it's executed like the extremists and fanatics. Today the world has been confronted in the most horrific way by the faithful followers of Islam where they kill you when you don't follow or belong to their religion.

What can we, peacekeeping instruments say about this?
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Feb 23, 2015 9:03 AM CST wars of greed
kidatheart: What is your interpretation of the "golden rule"?

The way I see it, "the one who has the gold, makes the rules". Hence the major religions of the world sending their flock out to conquer the rest, and supplying the leaders with all the gold.

Have you ever seen the amount of gold and silver in Spain, or Vatican City? Do you have any idea of the number of people that died in the process of extracting, processing, and transporting those precious resources in order for a very few to have domination over others?


"DO UNTO OTHERS WHAT YOU WOULD WANT OTHERS DO UNTO YOU"

The one that applies universally good to all, regardless of race, beliefs, religion, cultures, and where we come from
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Feb 23, 2015 9:18 AM CST wars of greed
Stedan
StedanStedanLiverpool, Merseyside, England UK2 Threads 1,780 Posts
Greed is part of civilization so many wars to expand empires to create religious furor to help destroy humanity. It will never cease or end as long as there is one person who wants more than someone else, 30 years ago I was part of a team for Famine Relief in Sudan those children that we saved have now their own children and here we are now being asked to provide relief again in Sudan..it is a never ending circle of what greed, corruption does to the human race. Jmho.
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Feb 23, 2015 9:18 AM CST wars of greed
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Feb 23, 2015 9:27 AM CST wars of greed
Obstinance_Works: I've known penniless losers who were more evil than hoarding rich folk.

The source of all evil is our nature. We're born with evil appetites and to what extent we indulge in these is the measure of evil. The lack of control over our greed, avarice, envy, gluttony, sloth, vanity etc are the evils..

My opinion is that the losers in our permissive society focus on greed specifically because they embody all, many or at least one of the other evils outside of greed(simply because they are not successful enough for ostentatious greed). And as a reaction to the thinly-veiled envy of the trash you get those who do the equally mad thing of turning greed into a virtue.


I do see as a trait of man generally endowed to all. I have said it more than once. We're born with no choices. We're delivered on this world as us. Some good, some bad. Yet we do have the chance to learn what distinguishes these characteristics and then opt to develop those traits that best suit our goals, needs, and ambitions.

Our SOCIETY unfortunately caters most for the capable ones, respects and adoration are seemingly flowered to those who've made it big. Thus it feeds us to accumulate and aggrandize ourselves for those achievement even when ethic and morality are compromised.
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Feb 23, 2015 9:49 AM CST wars of greed
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
lindsyjones: I do see as a trait of man generally endowed to all. I have said it more than once. We're born with no choices. We're delivered on this world as us. Some good, some bad. Yet we do have the chance to learn what distinguishes these characteristics and then opt to develop those traits that best suit our goals, needs, and ambitions.

Our SOCIETY unfortunately caters most for the capable ones, respects and adoration are seemingly flowered to those who've made it big. Thus it feeds us to accumulate and aggrandize ourselves for those achievement even when ethic and morality are compromised.


There are times when this does annoy me - such as footballers. We throw money at Wayne Rooney when he's worth nothing compared to me or you and he'd happy with a tyre on a rope.

But in other respects we have to do everything we can to reward success(especially in an age where you can fail or underachieve quite comfortably)because in our economy/society it's the success of 1 which feeds the 9.

Ideally the elites would harbour a greater sense of noblesse oblige, and the sub-elites would learn to be grateful and recognise that even if they're employed they are all too often dependents sustained by the charity of those who create value.
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Feb 23, 2015 10:11 AM CST wars of greed
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Obstinance_Works: There are times when this does annoy me - such as footballers. We throw money at Wayne Rooney when he's worth nothing compared to me or you and he'd happy with a tyre on a rope.

But in other respects we have to do everything we can to reward success(especially in an age where you can fail or underachieve quite comfortably)because in our economy/society it's the success of 1 which feeds the 9.

Ideally the elites would harbour a greater sense of noblesse oblige, and the sub-elites would learn to be grateful and recognise that even if they're employed they are all too often dependents sustained by the charity of those who create value.


That's directed at groups such as Occupy. The *ahem* 99% who are in fact the 50-99% who demand even more privileges than they already enjoy just because some people are more successful than they are. If anyone warrants a beef with the have-yachts then it's the have-nots, not the bourgeois have-somethings of Occupy who want more of something by offering nothing.
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Feb 23, 2015 11:26 AM CST wars of greed
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
lindsyjones: Guzman, that another face of culture can cause the extinction of mankind when it's executed like the extremists and fanatics. Today the world has been confronted in the most horrific way by the faithful followers of Islam where they kill you when you don't follow or belong to their religion.

What can we, peacekeeping instruments say about this?


To be exact, the fanatics that you mention are also killing muslims. Not sure if is for greed or power or purely religion, or whatever be.

The best peacekeeping instruments? Anything is good when under an agression.
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Feb 23, 2015 7:52 PM CST wars of greed
redo416: what new it always about greed!!


Hello Redo, nice to see you here.

Yes of course. The saying goes, History repeats itself....
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Feb 23, 2015 7:59 PM CST wars of greed
theskyisnotblue: Lots of people talking about religion as if it is the only thing driving people to kill each other, you people on here should know that there is evidence that humans have killed each other for THOUSANDS of years going back to the days of Neanderthals hundreds of thousands years ago when there was NO religion at all,so this means all this violence we see today its not about religion, its clear that violence its in our DNA it doesnt matter how much humans are educated or evolved there will always be wars and violence on our planet.


Perhaps you are right. But going back to historical accounts, we have changed a lot. We have progressed tremendously on all aspects. We have become more civilized and diplomatic. Given our ability and capability on the merits of technology, if we were not more human now, we could erase our planet in a split second.

But having said that, I am not saying that religion is the only reason why there is violence and inhumanities committed collectively by organized entities.

Today, our world is beset with a very serious commission of caliphating the world and it is rooted from religion.

If you don't agree with this, then you better open your eyes and know that it is so
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Feb 23, 2015 8:05 PM CST wars of greed
Obstinance_Works: There are times when this does annoy me - such as footballers. We throw money at Wayne Rooney when he's worth nothing compared to me or you and he'd happy with a tyre on a rope.

But in other respects we have to do everything we can to reward success(especially in an age where you can fail or underachieve quite comfortably)because in our economy/society it's the success of 1 which feeds the 9.

Ideally the elites would harbour a greater sense of noblesse oblige, and the sub-elites would learn to be grateful and recognise that even if they're employed they are all too often dependents sustained by the charity of those who create value.


It is called the value of COMMERCIALISM Obs, by the way I am so grateful as always to read you on my writes.

Anyways, have you noticed the cost of advertising on shows like NFL AND some programs that generates millions of viewers? Billions Obs, but it isn't the cost that matters, rather the return. Now if you tell me, it equates to greed that feeds on ego, and ridiculous recognition of fame, I don't know.

But you are right, when it comes to one's value it shouldn't measure onto the credit of materialistic worth but the novelty of what is measured by character and integrity.
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Feb 24, 2015 1:40 AM CST wars of greed
Stedan: Greed is part of civilization so many wars to expand empires to create religious furor to help destroy humanity. It will never cease or end as long as there is one person who wants more than someone else, 30 years ago I was part of a team for Famine Relief in Sudan those children that we saved have now their own children and here we are now being asked to provide relief again in Sudan..it is a never ending circle of what greed, corruption does to the human race. Jmho.


Hello. There Steve, nice to read you.

How have you been?

Anyways yes indeed. But if it sounds condescending Steve, I'm lucky to be the giver than the recipient.

Bless your heart to get involved in such a noble cause.
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Feb 24, 2015 1:41 AM CST wars of greed
Peach welcome to my writes.
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