Priti Patel looked at idea of sending asylum seekers to South Atlantic (44)
tomcatty: Priti Patel looked at idea of sending asylum seekers to South Atlantic
Home secretary asked officials to see if applicants could be processed on isolated St Helena
Ascension Island photographed in 2013. It is part of the British Overseas Territory of St Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha.
A 2013 view of Ascension Island. It is part of the British Overseas Territory of St Helena, Ascension
A Whitehall brainstorming session prompted by Priti Patel led to the idea being floated of sending asylum seekers to a volcanic island in the South Atlantic, the Guardian understands.
The Financial Times reported that the home secretary had asked officials to look into the idea of processing asylum seekers on Ascension Island, an isolated volcanic British territory, and on St Helena, which is part of the same island group but 800 miles away.
However, according to Home Office sources, the proposal only arose after Patel sought advice on how other countries deal with asylum applications. Australia, for example, keeps them on overseas islands while it processes claims.
The source said Patel asked the Foreign Office for ideas, and among those raised were “implausible ones” such as the use of Ascension or St Helena.
Patel is expected to address the issue of Channel crossings by migrants in a speech to the Conservative party conference on Sunday, and has repeatedly vowed to stop those arriving in the country by boat.
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Lets send them packing so they have no illusions when they get into their rubber boats they will ever set foot in England.
I's only a matter of time before there is a major incident in the channel maybe involvivg our rescue services.
Lets do it Bo Jo.
How much will it cost the taxpayers in this country to facilitate such a project, in comparison to asylum seekers being processed in the U.K.? There will be extra costs and how will they off-set this in their new plan?Home secretary asked officials to see if applicants could be processed on isolated St Helena
Ascension Island photographed in 2013. It is part of the British Overseas Territory of St Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha.
A 2013 view of Ascension Island. It is part of the British Overseas Territory of St Helena, Ascension
A Whitehall brainstorming session prompted by Priti Patel led to the idea being floated of sending asylum seekers to a volcanic island in the South Atlantic, the Guardian understands.
The Financial Times reported that the home secretary had asked officials to look into the idea of processing asylum seekers on Ascension Island, an isolated volcanic British territory, and on St Helena, which is part of the same island group but 800 miles away.
However, according to Home Office sources, the proposal only arose after Patel sought advice on how other countries deal with asylum applications. Australia, for example, keeps them on overseas islands while it processes claims.
The source said Patel asked the Foreign Office for ideas, and among those raised were “implausible ones” such as the use of Ascension or St Helena.
Patel is expected to address the issue of Channel crossings by migrants in a speech to the Conservative party conference on Sunday, and has repeatedly vowed to stop those arriving in the country by boat.
Ref Yahoo
Lets send them packing so they have no illusions when they get into their rubber boats they will ever set foot in England.
I's only a matter of time before there is a major incident in the channel maybe involvivg our rescue services.
Lets do it Bo Jo.
There are also suggestions of placing them in Morocco, Moldova and Papa New Guinea.
Then another question, if they are processed in any of the countries suggested by the government, will local nationals be employed and under what criteria? But I am sure our said government have considered all the risks associated with processing them outside of the U.K., to include a pandemic.
It will give some people the illusion our borders are safe. People who want to come to the U.K. always find a way, so how much of a deterrent this be remains to be seen if they forge ahead with this idea.
Sure to be a lot of money involved from the government with the said countries, if they agree to this project.
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Oxycodone: How much will it cost the taxpayers in this country to facilitate such a project, in comparison to asylum seekers being processed in the U.K.? There will be extra costs and how will they off-set this in their new plan?
There are also suggestions of placing them in Morocco, Moldova and Papa New Guinea.
Then another question, if they are processed in any of the countries suggested by the government, will local nationals be employed and under what criteria? But I am sure our said government have considered all the risks associated with processing them outside of the U.K., to include a pandemic.
It will give some people the illusion our borders are safe. People who want to come to the U.K. always find a way, so how much of a deterrent this be remains to be seen if they forge ahead with this idea.
Sure to be a lot of money involved from the government with the said countries, if they agree to this project.
There are also suggestions of placing them in Morocco, Moldova and Papa New Guinea.
Then another question, if they are processed in any of the countries suggested by the government, will local nationals be employed and under what criteria? But I am sure our said government have considered all the risks associated with processing them outside of the U.K., to include a pandemic.
It will give some people the illusion our borders are safe. People who want to come to the U.K. always find a way, so how much of a deterrent this be remains to be seen if they forge ahead with this idea.
Sure to be a lot of money involved from the government with the said countries, if they agree to this project.
Oxycodone: How much will it cost the taxpayers in this country to facilitate such a project, in comparison to asylum seekers being processed in the U.K.? There will be extra costs and how will they off-set this in their new plan?
There are also suggestions of placing them in Morocco, Moldova and Papa New Guinea.
Then another question, if they are processed in any of the countries suggested by the government, will local nationals be employed and under what criteria? But I am sure our said government have considered all the risks associated with processing them outside of the U.K., to include a pandemic.
It will give some people the illusion our borders are safe. People who want to come to the U.K. always find a way, so how much of a deterrent this be remains to be seen if they forge ahead with this idea.
Sure to be a lot of money involved from the government with the said countries, if they agree to this project.
Something has to be done, the cost all round, of keeping them in the UK is probibitive, they have to be put up in hotels, fed clothed and a little industry of lawyers is growing up, paid for by misguided interests, to exploit the law. Once they have their feet on British soil international law dteps in to protect them. and the British Taxpayer foots the bill. We don't want them send them to the South Atlantic islands, much along the Australian lines.There are also suggestions of placing them in Morocco, Moldova and Papa New Guinea.
Then another question, if they are processed in any of the countries suggested by the government, will local nationals be employed and under what criteria? But I am sure our said government have considered all the risks associated with processing them outside of the U.K., to include a pandemic.
It will give some people the illusion our borders are safe. People who want to come to the U.K. always find a way, so how much of a deterrent this be remains to be seen if they forge ahead with this idea.
Sure to be a lot of money involved from the government with the said countries, if they agree to this project.
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tomcatty: Something has to be done, the cost all round, of keeping them in the UK is probibitive, they have to be put up in hotels, fed clothed and a little industry of lawyers is growing up, paid for by misguided interests, to exploit the law. Once they have their feet on British soil international law dteps in to protect them. and the British Taxpayer foots the bill. We don't want them send them to the South Atlantic islands, much along the Australian lines.
Those hotels they are housed in are something to be desired so hopefully wherever they land up will be more humane.Not everyone is so anti asylum seekers in the U.K.
It has never been properly organised.
The cost of this change and ongoing will be extensive, financially I’d like to see the potential cost savings, if any, and what other business the U.K. will do with the said countries.
There is a lot more to this than they are currently saying.
Remember many of the asylum seekers are prepared to take risks at any cost. Many are resilient, determined and simply don’t give up. They are tough.
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Whoever can house them for the cheapest price?
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Oxycodone: Those hotels they are housed in are something to be desired so hopefully wherever they land up will be more humane.
Not everyone is so anti asylum seekers in the U.K.
It has never been properly organised.
The cost of this change and ongoing will be extensive, financially I’d like to see the potential cost savings, if any, and what other business the U.K. will do with the said countries.
There is a lot more to this than they are currently saying.
Remember many of the asylum seekers are prepared to take risks at any cost. Many are resilient, determined and simply don’t give up. They are tough.
Well your goverment is anti financial asylum seekers, I voted for and support the government, after all the idea of rehousing them in the South Atlantic while their cases are reviewed came from goverment ministers.Not everyone is so anti asylum seekers in the U.K.
It has never been properly organised.
The cost of this change and ongoing will be extensive, financially I’d like to see the potential cost savings, if any, and what other business the U.K. will do with the said countries.
There is a lot more to this than they are currently saying.
Remember many of the asylum seekers are prepared to take risks at any cost. Many are resilient, determined and simply don’t give up. They are tough.
Personally, I think they should be turned around and sent back to Francr, the French are dumping on us.
By the way how many can you put up???
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Well its a start but the lucky generation doesn't have the stomach to do what needs to be done. We had an attitude that mass immigration would all work ok in the long run - like the environment. Someone's going have to do something about this dangerous and unstable chemistry and if we can go from Blair to where we are now, we can go from where we are now to repatriation.
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ChesneyChrist: Well its a start but the lucky generation doesn't have the stomach to do what needs to be done. We had an attitude that mass immigration would all work ok in the long run - like the environment. Someone's going have to do something about this dangerous and unstable chemistry and if we can go from Blair to where we are now, we can go from where we are now to repatriation.
The cut off point is not far off, look at the faces of your television presenters, there is almost a positive discrimination going on.Stop the illegal immigrants now.
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Send them back with a couple of solar panels. I bet we could solve world hunger with all the money we throw at asylum and immigration, mother nature too would be glad if the third world is NOT transplanted into the first. It can't take the strain of our endless indulgence.
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tomcatty: Well your goverment is anti financial asylum seekers, I voted for and support the government, after all the idea of rehousing them in the South Atlantic while their cases are reviewed came from goverment ministers.
Personally, I think they should be turned around and sent back to Francr, the French are dumping on us.
By the way how many can you put up???
There is only so many a country can cope with for a whole array of reasons. Personally, I think they should be turned around and sent back to Francr, the French are dumping on us.
By the way how many can you put up???
The U.K. has to address its own internal problems with its current population.
I’m in agreement that if an asylum seeker lands in a country that is where they should be processed. However, their final destination will be at the forefront of their mind irrespective of where they land.
A lot of complexities to sift through and I wish it wasn’t that way because a lot of money is being made out of human suffering in a grand scale.
Some have suffered such atrocities and trauma they deserve a better life if their own countries regime represents a threat to their life and has indeed caused extreme harm to them.
It’s the economic migrants many have issues with.
Those camps in Calais are horrific not to say the least. Plus the ones in Greece.
Yes I do have compassion for people wanting a humane existence.
People kill and exploit their own folk.
I sure understand why we can’t and many don’t want anymore coming over. But also let’s think about the many distractions that we are fuelled with via many outlets which steer our focus elsewhere.
They did not want this story to enter into the public eye just yet.
Do you think what happened in Greece was caused on purpose ?
Government aid and the recent merger is political, deeply political, which is about VfM (Value for Money), specifically targeted at certain regions in the world.
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Oxycodone: There is only so many a country can cope with for a whole array of reasons.
The U.K. has to address its own internal problems with its current population.
I’m in agreement that if an asylum seeker lands in a country that is where they should be processed. However, their final destination will be at the forefront of their mind irrespective of where they land.
A lot of complexities to sift through and I wish it wasn’t that way because a lot of money is being made out of human suffering in a grand scale.
Some have suffered such atrocities and trauma they deserve a better life if their own countries regime represents a threat to their life and has indeed caused extreme harm to them.
It’s the economic migrants many have issues with.
Those camps in Calais are horrific not to say the least. Plus the ones in Greece.
Yes I do have compassion for people wanting a humane existence.
People kill and exploit their own folk.
I sure understand why we can’t and many don’t want anymore coming over. But also let’s think about the many distractions that we are fuelled with via many outlets which steer our focus elsewhere.
They did not want this story to enter into the public eye just yet.
Do you think what happened in Greece was caused on purpose ?
Government aid and the recent merger is political, deeply political, which is about VfM (Value for Money), specifically targeted at certain regions in the world.
The U.K. has to address its own internal problems with its current population.
I’m in agreement that if an asylum seeker lands in a country that is where they should be processed. However, their final destination will be at the forefront of their mind irrespective of where they land.
A lot of complexities to sift through and I wish it wasn’t that way because a lot of money is being made out of human suffering in a grand scale.
Some have suffered such atrocities and trauma they deserve a better life if their own countries regime represents a threat to their life and has indeed caused extreme harm to them.
It’s the economic migrants many have issues with.
Those camps in Calais are horrific not to say the least. Plus the ones in Greece.
Yes I do have compassion for people wanting a humane existence.
People kill and exploit their own folk.
I sure understand why we can’t and many don’t want anymore coming over. But also let’s think about the many distractions that we are fuelled with via many outlets which steer our focus elsewhere.
They did not want this story to enter into the public eye just yet.
Do you think what happened in Greece was caused on purpose ?
Government aid and the recent merger is political, deeply political, which is about VfM (Value for Money), specifically targeted at certain regions in the world.
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Oxycodone: There is only so many a country can cope with for a whole array of reasons.
The U.K. has to address its own internal problems with its current population.
I’m in agreement that if an asylum seeker lands in a country that is where they should be processed. However, their final destination will be at the forefront of their mind irrespective of where they land.
A lot of complexities to sift through and I wish it wasn’t that way because a lot of money is being made out of human suffering in a grand scale.
Some have suffered such atrocities and trauma they deserve a better life if their own countries regime represents a threat to their life and has indeed caused extreme harm to them.
It’s the economic migrants many have issues with.
Those camps in Calais are horrific not to say the least. Plus the ones in Greece.
Yes I do have compassion for people wanting a humane existence.
People kill and exploit their own folk.
I sure understand why we can’t and many don’t want anymore coming over. But also let’s think about the many distractions that we are fuelled with via many outlets which steer our focus elsewhere.
They did not want this story to enter into the public eye just yet.
Do you think what happened in Greece was caused on purpose ?
Government aid and the recent merger is political, deeply political, which is about VfM (Value for Money), specifically targeted at certain regions in the world.
Well said as usual Oxy.The U.K. has to address its own internal problems with its current population.
I’m in agreement that if an asylum seeker lands in a country that is where they should be processed. However, their final destination will be at the forefront of their mind irrespective of where they land.
A lot of complexities to sift through and I wish it wasn’t that way because a lot of money is being made out of human suffering in a grand scale.
Some have suffered such atrocities and trauma they deserve a better life if their own countries regime represents a threat to their life and has indeed caused extreme harm to them.
It’s the economic migrants many have issues with.
Those camps in Calais are horrific not to say the least. Plus the ones in Greece.
Yes I do have compassion for people wanting a humane existence.
People kill and exploit their own folk.
I sure understand why we can’t and many don’t want anymore coming over. But also let’s think about the many distractions that we are fuelled with via many outlets which steer our focus elsewhere.
They did not want this story to enter into the public eye just yet.
Do you think what happened in Greece was caused on purpose ?
Government aid and the recent merger is political, deeply political, which is about VfM (Value for Money), specifically targeted at certain regions in the world.
What makes me laugh is that people forget about the old men who used to bring "wives" in from other countries such as Vietnam and the Philippines most of whom were just looking for a " passport"
None of us should judge another human being and stick labels on them without having walked a mile in their shoes.
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Oxycodone: There is only so many a country can cope with for a whole array of reasons.
The U.K. has to address its own internal problems with its current population.
I’m in agreement that if an asylum seeker lands in a country that is where they should be processed. However, their final destination will be at the forefront of their mind irrespective of where they land.
A lot of complexities to sift through and I wish it wasn’t that way because a lot of money is being made out of human suffering in a grand scale.
Some have suffered such atrocities and trauma they deserve a better life if their own countries regime represents a threat to their life and has indeed caused extreme harm to them.
It’s the economic migrants many have issues with.
Those camps in Calais are horrific not to say the least. Plus the ones in Greece.
Yes I do have compassion for people wanting a humane existence.
People kill and exploit their own folk.
I sure understand why we can’t and many don’t want anymore coming over. But also let’s think about the many distractions that we are fuelled with via many outlets which steer our focus elsewhere.
They did not want this story to enter into the public eye just yet.
Do you think what happened in Greece was caused on purpose ?
Government aid and the recent merger is political, deeply political, which is about VfM (Value for Money), specifically targeted at certain regions in the world.
The reasons for the UK's dilemma are the faults of many countries, incuding the ones that blew Syria back to the stone age, where is their contribution to our dilemma, why am I paying to re establish a people and make no mistake I am paying.The U.K. has to address its own internal problems with its current population.
I’m in agreement that if an asylum seeker lands in a country that is where they should be processed. However, their final destination will be at the forefront of their mind irrespective of where they land.
A lot of complexities to sift through and I wish it wasn’t that way because a lot of money is being made out of human suffering in a grand scale.
Some have suffered such atrocities and trauma they deserve a better life if their own countries regime represents a threat to their life and has indeed caused extreme harm to them.
It’s the economic migrants many have issues with.
Those camps in Calais are horrific not to say the least. Plus the ones in Greece.
Yes I do have compassion for people wanting a humane existence.
People kill and exploit their own folk.
I sure understand why we can’t and many don’t want anymore coming over. But also let’s think about the many distractions that we are fuelled with via many outlets which steer our focus elsewhere.
They did not want this story to enter into the public eye just yet.
Do you think what happened in Greece was caused on purpose ?
Government aid and the recent merger is political, deeply political, which is about VfM (Value for Money), specifically targeted at certain regions in the world.
They are not a people grateful for a leg up, but arrogant to the point I r
find it difficult to wear a cross for fear uf upsetting someone.
I have seen the same arrogance in other countries, in Finland a group of assylum seekers helped themselves to a buffet without paying, and when asked just said they were hungry, there are free food hostels in Finland.
We are standing up to theEU, I hope this traslates to more resolve in the illegal immigrant problem.
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tomcatty: The reasons for the UK's dilemma are the faults of many countries, incuding the ones that blew Syria back to the stone age, where is their contribution to our dilemma, why am I paying to re establish a people and make no mistake I am paying.
They are not a people grateful for a leg up, but arrogant to the point I r
find it difficult to wear a cross for fear uf upsetting someone.
I have seen the same arrogance in other countries, in Finland a group of assylum seekers helped themselves to a buffet without paying, and when asked just said they were hungry, there are free food hostels in Finland.
We are standing up to theEU, I hope this traslates to more resolve in the illegal immigrant problem.
Just how much as a pensioner are you paying to support immigrants in the U.K. I'm curious.They are not a people grateful for a leg up, but arrogant to the point I r
find it difficult to wear a cross for fear uf upsetting someone.
I have seen the same arrogance in other countries, in Finland a group of assylum seekers helped themselves to a buffet without paying, and when asked just said they were hungry, there are free food hostels in Finland.
We are standing up to theEU, I hope this traslates to more resolve in the illegal immigrant problem.
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germanspitz: Well said as usual Oxy.
What makes me laugh is that people forget about the old men who used to bring "wives" in from other countries such as Vietnam and the Philippines most of whom were just looking for a " passport"
None of us should judge another human being and stick labels on them without having walked a mile in their shoes.
The circumstances and visuals cause fear in others which trigger what I call a defence mechanism “judgement” which I understand because who wants to see the real picture. What makes me laugh is that people forget about the old men who used to bring "wives" in from other countries such as Vietnam and the Philippines most of whom were just looking for a " passport"
None of us should judge another human being and stick labels on them without having walked a mile in their shoes.
Hope all is well with yourself. Your Sunday lunch made me hungry so I woofed down lemon sponge cake I made yesterday
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No we should take a much more organic line in response to covid. Something along the lines of who the hell wants to be 90? It's against nature and it's against god. Life elsewhere and thereafter deserves a chance one dimension of the renewable age should be to combat the living fossil. Create a humanity that can renew itself - not like Logan's Run, but a happy medium between that and this senile norm.
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Oxycodone: The circumstances and visuals cause fear in others which trigger what I call a defence mechanism “judgement” which I understand because who wants to see the real picture.
Hope all is well with yourself. Your Sunday lunch made me hungry so I woofed down lemon sponge cake I made yesterday
No good me popping round for tea thenHope all is well with yourself. Your Sunday lunch made me hungry so I woofed down lemon sponge cake I made yesterday
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ChesneyChrist: No we should take a much more organic line in response to covid. Something along the lines of who the hell wants to be 90? It's against nature and it's against god. Life elsewhere and thereafter deserves a chance one dimension of the renewable age should be to combat the living fossil. Create a humanity that can renew itself - not like Logan's Run, but a happy medium between that and this senile norm.
Yes, but while I am still independent, and have some use in the community, I will soldier on, if I become a burden maybe I will th.ink again, but I'm no moving over to let some arrogant financial refugee take my spot, aand I really object to paying his bills------ This thread is Archived ------
ChesneyChrist: No we should take a much more organic line in response to covid. Something along the lines of who the hell wants to be 90? It's against nature and it's against god. Life elsewhere and thereafter deserves a chance one dimension of the renewable age should be to combat the living fossil. Create a humanity that can renew itself - not like Logan's Run, but a happy medium between that and this senile norm.
Go tell that to Captain Tom Moore who single- handed raised millions for the NHS at 100 years old.May I ask what your cut off point will be .Just curious.
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Patel has called on the Royal Navy to help tackle the growing number of small boats and appointed a former Royal Marine, Dan O’Mahoney, to the role of “clandestine Channel threat commander”.
In August she said the number of crossings was “appalling and unacceptably high”, adding: “I am working to make this route unviable.”
The UK is dealing with record levels of arrivals across the Channel, and – according to PA Media analysis – nearly 7,000 people have landed in the UK by small boats this year.
New plans drawn up by the Home Office show that people could be housed in a detention centre criticised for inhumane conditions, and Conservative MPs in Kent have raised concerns about the housing of migrants in nearby hotels and army barracks.
In August she said the number of crossings was “appalling and unacceptably high”, adding: “I am working to make this route unviable.”
The UK is dealing with record levels of arrivals across the Channel, and – according to PA Media analysis – nearly 7,000 people have landed in the UK by small boats this year.
New plans drawn up by the Home Office show that people could be housed in a detention centre criticised for inhumane conditions, and Conservative MPs in Kent have raised concerns about the housing of migrants in nearby hotels and army barracks.
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Priti Patel looked at idea of sending asylum seekers to South Atlantic
Home secretary asked officials to see if applicants could be processed on isolated St Helena
Ascension Island photographed in 2013. It is part of the British Overseas Territory of St Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha.
A 2013 view of Ascension Island. It is part of the British Overseas Territory of St Helena, Ascension
A Whitehall brainstorming session prompted by Priti Patel led to the idea being floated of sending asylum seekers to a volcanic island in the South Atlantic, the Guardian understands.
The Financial Times reported that the home secretary had asked officials to look into the idea of processing asylum seekers on Ascension Island, an isolated volcanic British territory, and on St Helena, which is part of the same island group but 800 miles away.
However, according to Home Office sources, the proposal only arose after Patel sought advice on how other countries deal with asylum applications. Australia, for example, keeps them on overseas islands while it processes claims.
The source said Patel asked the Foreign Office for ideas, and among those raised were “implausible ones” such as the use of Ascension or St Helena.
Patel is expected to address the issue of Channel crossings by migrants in a speech to the Conservative party conference on Sunday, and has repeatedly vowed to stop those arriving in the country by boat.
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Lets send them packing so they have no illusions when they get into their rubber boats they will ever set foot in England.
I's only a matter of time before there is a major incident in the channel maybe involvivg our rescue services.
Lets do it Bo Jo.