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Jan 14, 2023 2:16 PM CST Confidentiality clauses...
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
Who ever reads it?
Who just signs it, and then do everything wrong...lol...
And is fired with indignity...

How confidential is anything between friends and acquaintances?
And no "Keep this secret" either...

So the whole world is a free for all...
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Jan 14, 2023 2:19 PM CST Confidentiality clauses...
MariaR33
MariaR33MariaR33Couva, Couva-Tabaquite-Talparo Trinidad and Tobago1 Threads 43 Posts
I read it. I learned the hard way not to sign anything before reading it first. scold
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Jan 14, 2023 2:20 PM CST Confidentiality clauses...
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
MariaR33: I read it. I learned the hard way not to sign anything before reading it first.
And how much did you understand or sent to your lawyer?
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Jan 14, 2023 2:24 PM CST Confidentiality clauses...
GullyFoyle
GullyFoyleGullyFoyleSuperposition, New York USA23 Threads 5 Polls 293 Posts
Fuzz Greene: Legal stunts. Herewith, forthwith, pertaining to but not inclusive of. This is how people control us, isn't it? make it all so mysterious, the rest of us don't understand.

Cleaver Greene: Yes. It's why law and religion were in Latin for centuries, but then they realized they could make English just as incomprehensible as a dead language.

Fuzz Greene: So, if I understand you correctly, you make a living strangling words so a jury doesn't know which way is up.

Cleaver Greene: Yeah. We also get to wear wigs.


“Cleaver Greene: Let’s cut to the chase, Lawrence. What the hell possessed you to bust into this forum?

Lawrence Fenton: What these so-called important people are doing with words. The way they use language to actually hide what they mean. It’s a form of corruption. The writer, Don Watson, calls them ‘weasel words’, where corporations and governments complicate what they say so much that there is no longer any accountability or integrity. And once we stop believing in what is being said, once language loses its power to connect us, civilization is finished.”
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Jan 14, 2023 2:29 PM CST Confidentiality clauses...
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
GullyFoyle: Fuzz Greene: Legal stunts. Herewith, forthwith, pertaining to but not inclusive of. This is how people control us, isn't it? make it all so mysterious, the rest of us don't understand.

Cleaver Greene: Yes. It's why law and religion were in Latin for centuries, but then they realized they could make English just as incomprehensible as a dead language.

Fuzz Greene: So, if I understand you correctly, you make a living strangling words so a jury doesn't know which way is up.

Cleaver Greene: Yeah. We also get to wear wigs.


“Cleaver Greene: Let’s cut to the chase, Lawrence. What the hell possessed you to bust into this forum?

Lawrence Fenton: What these so-called important people are doing with words. The way they use language to actually hide what they mean. It’s a form of corruption. The writer, Don Watson, calls them ‘weasel words’, where corporations and governments complicate what they say so much that there is no longer any accountability or integrity. And once we stop believing in what is being said, once language loses its power to connect us, civilization is finished.”
Well done...
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Jan 14, 2023 2:31 PM CST Confidentiality clauses...
GullyFoyle
GullyFoyleGullyFoyleSuperposition, New York USA23 Threads 5 Polls 293 Posts
You have never watched Rake?
Try Korzybski's general Semantics.
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Jan 14, 2023 2:34 PM CST Confidentiality clauses...
GullyFoyle
GullyFoyleGullyFoyleSuperposition, New York USA23 Threads 5 Polls 293 Posts
From Homicide life on the streets

Bayliss: So are you going to interrogate him?
Pembleton: Interrogate him?
Bayliss: Yeah, yeah. I’m just saying. You know, not a partner thing but when you interrogate him I’d like to sit in.
Pembleton: Then what you will be privileged to witness will not be an interrogation, but an act of salesmanship. As silver-tongued and thieving as ever moved used cars, Florida swamp land, or Bibles. But what I am selling is a long prison term to a client who has no genuine use for the product. {he heads for the box}
Bayliss: I guess that’s a yes.
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Jan 14, 2023 2:37 PM CST Confidentiality clauses...
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
GullyFoyle: You have never watched Rake?
Try Korzybski's general Semantics.
I have read things that most think is gibberish...
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Jan 14, 2023 2:45 PM CST Confidentiality clauses...
GullyFoyle
GullyFoyleGullyFoyleSuperposition, New York USA23 Threads 5 Polls 293 Posts
Always read the EULA
More to the first but it goes beyond the limit. Fub read though.


Georgia high school teacher Donelan Andrews won a $10,000 reward after she closely read the terms and conditions that came with a travel insurance policy she purchased for a trip to England. Squaremouth, a Florida insurance company, had inserted language promising a reward to the first person who emailed the company.



TIL a software company buried a $1,000 prize deep in its Terms of Service to see if anyone actually read them. After 5 months and over 3,000 sales, someone finally asked about the prize
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Jan 14, 2023 2:49 PM CST Confidentiality clauses...
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
GullyFoyle: Always read the EULA
More to the first but it goes beyond the limit. Fub read though.


Georgia high school teacher Donelan Andrews won a $10,000 reward after she closely read the terms and conditions that came with a travel insurance policy she purchased for a trip to England. Squaremouth, a Florida insurance company, had inserted language promising a reward to the first person who emailed the company.



TIL a software company buried a $1,000 prize deep in its Terms of Service to see if anyone actually read them. After 5 months and over 3,000 sales, someone finally asked about the prize
Have you ever heard something only you understood...like a different wave length almost...
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Jan 14, 2023 2:57 PM CST Confidentiality clauses...
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
spikkels999: Have you ever heard something only you understood...like a different wave length almost...
It's like reading 1 and 0 and understanding...
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Jan 14, 2023 3:47 PM CST Confidentiality clauses...
GullyFoyle
GullyFoyleGullyFoyleSuperposition, New York USA23 Threads 5 Polls 293 Posts
I have read gibberish most people think is relevant or insightful.
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Jan 14, 2023 3:49 PM CST Confidentiality clauses...
GullyFoyle
GullyFoyleGullyFoyleSuperposition, New York USA23 Threads 5 Polls 293 Posts
"Have you ever heard something only you understood...like a different wave length almost..."
I term it Subjective relationship with existence.
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Jan 14, 2023 3:51 PM CST Confidentiality clauses...
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
GullyFoyle: "Have you ever heard something only you understood...like a different wave length almost..."
I term it Subjective relationship with existence.
You have lost me Again...
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Jan 14, 2023 4:09 PM CST Confidentiality clauses...
GullyFoyle
GullyFoyleGullyFoyleSuperposition, New York USA23 Threads 5 Polls 293 Posts
Think about it.
Screw it a couple of hints, politics and religion to start with.


The replication crisis (also called the replicability crisis and the reproducibility crisis) is an ongoing methodological crisis in which the results of many scientific studies are difficult or impossible to reproduce. Because the reproducibility of empirical results is an essential part of the scientific method, such failures undermine the credibility of theories building on them and potentially call into question substantial parts of scientific knowledge


What an Audacious Hoax Reveals About Academia
Three scholars wrote 20 fake papers using fashionable jargon to argue for ridiculous conclusions.


Over 100 published science journal articles just gibberish

Go to retraction watch and read about all the ways academics scam publishers and funders.
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Jan 14, 2023 4:21 PM CST Confidentiality clauses...
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
Get a marketing firm to make you famous...

Now everyone believes and quotes you...
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Jan 14, 2023 6:35 PM CST Confidentiality clauses...
GullyFoyle
GullyFoyleGullyFoyleSuperposition, New York USA23 Threads 5 Polls 293 Posts
"Get a marketing firm to make you famous...
Now everyone believes and quotes you."

do you live before 2000?
Now you hire a single person with a whole bunch of phones to push your popularity.
Phone farms are used in everything from politics to music.
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Jan 15, 2023 4:31 AM CST Confidentiality clauses...
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
GullyFoyle: "Get a marketing firm to make you famous...
Now everyone believes and quotes you."

do you live before 2000?
Now you hire a single person with a whole bunch of phones to push your popularity.
Phone farms are used in everything from politics to music.
I gave general computer training at a marketing company, employing people with the gift of the gab...
Lots of phoning overseas 24/7, in 2008.
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Jan 15, 2023 5:06 AM CST Confidentiality clauses...
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
I agree with spikkels, they churn out whatever in terms and conditions, banks and online terms and conditions are the worst offenders.
Who sits around with barristers interpretation of the otherwise meaningless crap that they churn out without your prior consent I dunno. However all the judges in christian countries at least lie there teeth out with equally meaningless bla bla.
You only have to look closely at the Toyota e.g. Maddens Lawyers lodged the class action in Victoria's Supreme Court, claiming up to 500,000 vehicles could be involved and a settlement, if the case is proven, could reach $1 billion. The dispute is centred around “diesel defeat devices”, with Maddens Lawyers alleging Toyota changed vehicles' emissions control systems.

forward:
Toyota Australia says it will “rigorously” defend a fresh class action lawsuit brought upon the company in the Supreme Court of Victoria today by a law firm representing owners and drivers of diesel-powered Toyota vehicles.


Toyota avoided a fine following a separate investigation into the DPF issue by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC), but promised to review its systems and customer complaint handling procedures.


they lie a lot
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Jan 15, 2023 6:19 AM CST Confidentiality clauses...
spikkels999
spikkels999spikkels999..., Gauteng South Africa103 Threads 843 Posts
robplum: I agree with spikkels, they churn out whatever in terms and conditions, banks and online terms and conditions are the worst offenders.
Who sits around with barristers interpretation of the otherwise meaningless crap that they churn out without your prior consent I dunno. However all the judges in christian countries at least lie there teeth out with equally meaningless bla bla.
You only have to look closely at the Toyota e.g. Maddens Lawyers lodged the class action in Victoria's Supreme Court, claiming up to 500,000 vehicles could be involved and a settlement, if the case is proven, could reach $1 billion. The dispute is centred around “diesel defeat devices”, with Maddens Lawyers alleging Toyota changed vehicles' emissions control systems.

forward:
Toyota Australia says it will “rigorously” defend a fresh class action lawsuit brought upon the company in the Supreme Court of Victoria today by a law firm representing owners and drivers of diesel-powered Toyota vehicles.


Toyota avoided a fine following a separate investigation into the DPF issue by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC), but promised to review its systems and customer complaint handling procedures.


they lie a lot
Hi Rob
Yes, imagine writing anything out of the ballpark, aimed to confuse and injure, disguising it in many fancy words, so no-one can understand anyway, adding it to some valid agreement, on the internet, where no-one reads anything, except social media, and you are sunk...totally...
Then you call in the legal team, costing you billions, and still losing...
Who is winning all the way to the bank, always, here...?
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