How would you fund education if you were in the position ( Archived) (58)

Feb 15, 2007 5:46 PM CST How would you fund education if you were in the position
Raynew
RaynewRaynewConcord, North Carolina USA99 Threads 2,400 Posts
The idea for this thread I got from reading a thread by someone quite bl8antrolling on the floor laughing


Considering that children are the future, I feel that big businesses should be hit with what could be called an Education Tax.
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Feb 15, 2007 5:48 PM CST How would you fund education if you were in the position
shyone57
shyone57shyone57Kilkenny, Ireland14 Threads 2,037 Posts
Good idea, but imagine the uproarblues
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Feb 15, 2007 5:49 PM CST How would you fund education if you were in the position
adj4u
adj4uadj4unorth central, USA4,943 Posts
put a10% sales tax on items designed for those of school age
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Feb 15, 2007 5:51 PM CST How would you fund education if you were in the position
adj4u
adj4uadj4unorth central, USA4,943 Posts
busineeses do not pay tax consuner pays the tax
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Feb 15, 2007 5:52 PM CST How would you fund education if you were in the position
FindMe1113
FindMe1113FindMe1113Bronx, USA11 Threads 1,171 Posts
That's a good idea!!!wine wine
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Feb 15, 2007 5:52 PM CST How would you fund education if you were in the position
adj4u
adj4uadj4unorth central, USA4,943 Posts
or add an exsise tax on imported things
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Feb 15, 2007 5:54 PM CST How would you fund education if you were in the position
FindMe1113
FindMe1113FindMe1113Bronx, USA11 Threads 1,171 Posts
Even Better...how that and the 10%...BOTH????professor
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Feb 15, 2007 5:57 PM CST How would you fund education if you were in the position
Abracadabra
AbracadabraAbracadabraHeaven, Pennsylvania USA69 Threads 3,302 Posts
You have to change the whole philosophy behind the school systems if you want to get my support for that.

I have a really big bone to pick with our educational institutions and how they are handled.

They could teach ten times more important stuff in one-tenth the amount of time.

When I was in high school I was so bored that I literally fell through the cracks!

It ticked me off then, and it still ticks me off today.

very mad very mad very mad
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Feb 15, 2007 5:57 PM CST How would you fund education if you were in the position
Jess642
Jess642Jess642Agnes Water, Australia25 Threads 4,545 Posts
Completely remodel and restructure the division of public purse monies collected through taxes.

I understand that a countries wealth is also generated through import and export, so public monies need to be spent on the infrastructure and maintenance of the people.

Curly question Raynew, as to all the facets, and I am not educated fully in all the factors of managing a country, ( will work on being the next prime minister next year, am a bit busy saving the world today)laugh

if one was to take the balance sheet and look at the division of funds...I suspect most of the Western worlds would have an unfair division with the provision of health, education, environment and social services.


it is finding the balamce between working with the now, and looking to the future....can I hire you and oceans as advisors, when I become the next p.m.?laugh
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Feb 15, 2007 6:01 PM CST How would you fund education if you were in the position
adj4u
adj4uadj4unorth central, USA4,943 Posts
i know bored in school

missed about 130 days my last 2 years and grad. with decent grades

and also helped develope the rescue squad program in the town i lived in my senior year
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Feb 15, 2007 6:08 PM CST How would you fund education if you were in the position
Ocee35
Ocee35Ocee35Jackson, Michigan USA69 Threads 2 Polls 3,852 Posts
I would charge the parents, I beleive in this state each child is worth about $7,000 to the schol disrtict. I would bill their parents. If we don't need solidarity in the form unions to protect our wages, or socialized medicine to care for our citizens, why should I pay for somebody else' kid's education.


Two kids would cost $14,000 a year, to be paid in advance.

If you don't pay, they don't go. If you can't afford it?

That's just not my problem.
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Feb 15, 2007 6:09 PM CST How would you fund education if you were in the position
TheProfessor
TheProfessorTheProfessorPandoras Box, USA91 Threads 4,746 Posts
Re-direct military funding, and make certain that it actually goes into the schools with checks & balances on many different levels.
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Feb 15, 2007 6:09 PM CST How would you fund education if you were in the position
Abracadabra
AbracadabraAbracadabraHeaven, Pennsylvania USA69 Threads 3,302 Posts
It is an ENORMOUS waste of time!

And I recently heard that several places are considering making school days even longer!

I wouldn't even have a problem with that if they were using the time efficiently, but it's so lame there isn't any words to describe it!

It geared toward completely idiots I think. And the smart people have to suffer through it. They really should have a better way of dividing people up into more tailored programs.

Instead of making longer hours I'd rather see shorter hours with more teachers focusing on less students at a time.

I know we can never get it down to one-on-one mentoring. But if it was made more efficient it could be gotten down to something like no more than 10 students per teacher, and that could be one-on-one throughout the day at various times if the teachers are smart.

This is a huge sore spot with me. Our educators need to be educated on how to educate!

Not so much the teachers, but the administration!

very mad very mad very mad
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Feb 15, 2007 6:11 PM CST How would you fund education if you were in the position
Abracadabra
AbracadabraAbracadabraHeaven, Pennsylvania USA69 Threads 3,302 Posts
Ocee wrote:
"If you don't pay, they don't go. If you can't afford it?

That's just not my problem."

Oh, but it would be your problem soon enough.

Trust me.
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Feb 15, 2007 6:14 PM CST How would you fund education if you were in the position
Abracadabra
AbracadabraAbracadabraHeaven, Pennsylvania USA69 Threads 3,302 Posts
I’m all for education.

I only wish it could be done intelligently and efficiently and that they didn’t waste people’s time taking hours and hours to teach useless crap.

We really need to change the critera for what we consider to be a "high school" education.
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Feb 15, 2007 6:15 PM CST How would you fund education if you were in the position
FindMe1113
FindMe1113FindMe1113Bronx, USA11 Threads 1,171 Posts
thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up
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Feb 15, 2007 6:29 PM CST How would you fund education if you were in the position
Jess642
Jess642Jess642Agnes Water, Australia25 Threads 4,545 Posts
A model for education...supporting Ocee's thoughts to a degree...

My children went to a school for just under a year that was self funded, by the parents, interested citizens, local business owners and the students themselves.

This school was for children 5-12 years of age.

The land, and deed to the land, was donated by a private owner. The buildings are purchased as they become available, and money is there. (Old houses, and buildings, due for demolition, and are moved onto the school site and renovated.)

The school works on the co-operative model, and every person involved in the school is part of a work-sharing co-operative, (The LETS Scheme). Fees were asked for, and also labour hours had to be committed to as well. A pool of resources were available, both with talents, and knowledge. the children owned their school, and had more input into what happened there, than the adults.

The curriculum was within the Department of Education boundaries, and yet was created by the children, with an overseer body of educators and citizens. Many of these children test way higher than the State averages, in all areas, and in all ages.

Outside funding came in the way of the school body working within festivals, creating and producing products, including fresh food.

The children decided they wanted edible gardens ten years ago, and actively plant, forage, and nurture their food gardens. Philosophies are accepted, and differing backgrounds accepted as normal, within the whole school. Their motto is "One people, One world"
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Feb 15, 2007 6:37 PM CST How would you fund education if you were in the position
Ocee35
Ocee35Ocee35Jackson, Michigan USA69 Threads 2 Polls 3,852 Posts
I was being sarcastic...

I don't have to trust you, I know you're right.

It would soon become many people's problem,

just as the other two issues I mentioned have.



Non-sarcastic answer...

I would handle it with a federal tax, to take the regionalism out of it. Create to true level playing field, unlike our current system wherein more affluent areas have a large budget per student.





Sidenote...
I am also in favor of an import tax. I would base it on a standard of living index. If you want to import something here, you need to be paying a living wage were you produced it. If your not, we would tax your import by an amount as to make them an equal cost to the consumer, as the products of companies that do pay fairly. Our corporations would benefit from the level playing feild, and the revenue from the taxes could be used to help fund our social programs.
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Feb 15, 2007 6:42 PM CST How would you fund education if you were in the position
TabooN
TabooNTabooNClaremont, USA47 Threads 12,843 Posts
We had a huge tax fraud in NH. It's STILL in courts. Large sums of tax money for schools gone!

Another thing, is they pass off parenting, and other issues onto teachers. I know of a collage in NH that have a mediocre teacher cert/license classes. Anyone can get them. Even without the experience, or teaching experience per collage graduate. If you went to collage, you can take courses and be a teacher.
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Feb 15, 2007 6:49 PM CST How would you fund education if you were in the position
dragondog4
dragondog4dragondog4Perth, Western Australia Australia55 Threads 3,912 Posts
Bad idea.
If you tax big business we the consumer wear it in the long run. Hit the politicians. Make them take huge pay cuts and remove half there benefits.
This money alone would run education alone for two or three years.

Also cut back half the subjects the schools are offering and they wouldn't struggle so much. Vary what each school offers in an area, so that way they attract specifically orientated students.

Why should we pay Politicians the huge sums of money we do for them to sit there and argue like school kids whilst they take huge kick backs from big business.
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