well crash as a single parent who is unemployed it not by my choice for me anyway .. i have applied at several place in my home town and in a 40 mile radius in all directions now i just have to wait for a call back and get hired..sometimes thats all you can do .. so while i am unemployed and recieving welfar i am also doing several hours a week of community service so not all of us are sitting on our butts doing nothing ..
I guess I'll have to chalk this one up to my own jealousy. Even working, I'm not pulling off this single parent thing worth a flip.
In between begging the electric company for an extension and tickled that I could afford soup beans to put in the crock pot, I'll have to come up with a new plan.
Crash, I got a good job and no kids at home. The bills are so high I am eating what my mother and sister canned up last year. I can't even imagine how you are making it.
Crash..It is sometimes easier to live using the welafre system than it is to go out and work.. Alot of men and women with children simply would not make it by working.
When a person works, there are other expenses such as childcare that come into play..Which is hugely expensive in itself. I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm just saying that not everyone is going to be able to make it.
In Canada if you make any additional income to try and inprove things the state simply claws the money back, taking away any incentive to get off the system away from that person. In many cases they are there own worst enemy by kicking people down all the way along. Why would you work? If there is nothing in it for you. Dunno.
I have a very very good paying job and it takes everything I make to keep the house going, bills, food on the table and clothes on our backs and so on. Our clothes are not tattered and the food we eat is second to none as well. So I guess I could say Iam doing quite well. But I make 4 times what a person on welfare would make.
There are alot of people on the system that don't wish to be. Everyones situation is different I guess and we do what we have to do.
I bet I'll be "making it" to your house for good food! lol
Thanks Roy. Three sentences from you dropped my blood pressure a few points.
My thread, I'll hijack it and turn it into a bill ranting thread. My house is garage sized and the gas bill was almost $200. What the....? I'm thinking shut it off and sleep in snow gear. lol
Gas bills are ridiculous. My roomate and I had a $400 one last month. That's $200 a piece. The worst part is, the thermostat was on at 58 degrees. In fear of a gigantic bill, we set it low and wear sweatshirts, ect... The gas is in the roomies name, so he got it on a budget, now it's only gonna be half of that. Not cheap, but a lot more affordable than $200 or more apiece. I have a decent job, and a roomate, but I don't have much extra money to do squat. I have to put in OT to have excess play money.
Awwwwwwww dang, Pete, surely you jest. Easier to make it on welfare? Wouldn't make it by working? I had to read that a couple times to make sure I read it right.
I'll first say that I wholeheartedly understand temporary issues and everybody needs help sometimes.
But to make it a lifelong crutch or can't make it by working? Uh uh, ain't buying it. Childcare expenses too much? NO CHIT! All part of it! Kids need to eat too, but you can't exactly just chalk it up as too expensive! All part of it!
I can't afford childcare either, so ya know what? I figured out how to generate income at home, via internet, and take care of my own babies. Always a way when you've got real live blue blood and enough cahounas to pull yourself up by the boot straps.
Easier on welfare? Hell yeah, it is. But I don't remember my getting to vote on who I pay to stay home and repopulate the Earth.
And last I heard, welfare doesn't pay for internet access, so how does that happen?
Once again, I'll chalk this vent up to jealousy and animosity to having such a tough time making it, but dammit, it builds character. Character? I got it.
hey crash i got a story for ya i lived in alvin texas for 3 yrs the girl that lived acroos the street form me had 4 kids no husband but a boyfriendshe received foodstamps and any other help she could of course she got no childsupport but thats besides the point when her kids were hungry she never had enough money to buy food so they came to me and they knew i loved them as my own when her boyfriend would go over she would avoid her kids and spend her money on him instead of her kids
i have one question and yes i asked her WTF is up with being like that to your(her) kids
cutelildevilsmomportsmouth, New Hampshire USA7,772 posts
thanx laurie.What pete says is true though.most people on the dole what to better themselves but lack the education and skills.I think if college courses were offered with finacial help while you learned it would be better.i figure if prisners can get free education ,people who want to better themselves should have that oppurtunity.
i agree about the education i have my associates degree in business adminstrtaion and i did receive help to go to school but now i have a $8,500 student loan to pay and i will as soon as i can but yes why is it that prisoners can get free stuff and we pay for it
I have often felt the same way myself but would never utter it because I am a childless wonder...what the hell do I know right? But one of the reasons I am a childless wonder is I am accutely aware of what it takes to raise a child financially. I own my own home(well half own it bank still owns the other half!)My own car(still a few months left on that. I am doing fine on my own. quite comfortable BUT if I had children I don't think that would be the case. I don't know how you do it Erin. I have said it before single people who keep it all together somehow, astound me. I have never found the right person who I would be willing to have father any potential children and I don't want to have them on my own....so here I am(I am well aware nothing is guarenteed you could start out married and end up alone)...(maybe why I am so uptight about getting married....) starting to ramble now!But financial reasons did play a role in my decision to remain Childless. Erin you are a rare breed. a lot of People who could be struggling like you are doing would opt for the easy route. Why not I believe was put forth. Pride for one, I think that most people would rather be contributers to society than takers. But there is an element that seems lost on...not taring all with the same brush. I know there are those who truly need it and are legitimate...it's not a choice.Another syndrome(using the term loosly here) I have seen over the years is that the "welfare attitude" of something for nothing, gets passed down to children. I see it everyday. If there is not an effort to instill a work ethic or value for a dollar, responsibility for oneself...it happens that welfare breeds welfare...again not all people...stop lining up to take a crack at me!... I think there are two very good reasons for not opting for the easy road and you have the utmost of my respect for chosing the path you have. That doesn't mean I would think any different of you if things were different and you had to turn to the welfare system. I know your ethic and I am sure you would make every effort to pass that to your children. Ok I'm starting to ramble again and the folks are wanting to go shopping(yes they are still here). bye for now...mwwwaaa!
Thanks for the vote of confidence, Lilly. But I guess my point is, that I'm NOT making it and I'm pissed. lol
The ones that burn my tail are the lifers. Yes, vicious cycle. They children usually find it a perfectly acceptable way of life also.
Just a couple months ago, I'm in Walmart showing the kids the live lobsters in the tank, and this lady standing there strikes up a conversation. She's so proud and tickled pink, tells me her foodstamps just renewed so she's treating herself to a lobster. $21 she paid for that thing! Correction, $21 I paid for that thing. I don't think I spend that much a week to feed my family of three. WTF????
And another one of my favorites are the folk in the grocery that pay with foodstamps, their kids are wearing new Nikes and climbing in a Caddy.
This thread wasn't meant as a slam to receiving assistance, can't guarantee that I won't need it if it doesn't get better soon.
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On many, many profiles and many people I've spoken to, they claim to be single parents but are unemployed.
How exactly does this happen? How are all those words used in the same sentence? "Single parent and unemployed"
I totally missed that class on how to raise babies without a job.
Enlightenment please before I spontaneously combust.
All I can picture is someone on welfare, at home on the computer that they need to hock to feed their kids instead of living on my dime.