A question for our non-American friends... ( Archived) (44)

Jul 22, 2007 12:16 PM CST A question for our non-American friends...
PseudoSavant
PseudoSavantPseudoSavantHENDERSON, Nevada USA2 Threads 170 Posts
A friend of a friend was recently able to achieve a life long dream of traveling the world - I don't know the specifics but it is to include stops in Europe, parts of Asia and at least one stop in Africa...

I was surprised to learn that his travel agent - among others - told him that other than in official situations where he might be required to show identification he should present himself to everyone as being a Canadian... It would be safer.

My question: What does the rest of the world think of Americans? Not America the country or the politics of America, but the individual Americans. Be as honest as you feel you can.
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Jul 22, 2007 12:31 PM CST A question for our non-American friends...
Ojazos
OjazosOjazosCancun, Quintana Roo Mexico98 Threads 2,894 Posts
I live in a place where I meet all the time people from USA...as every where you will find nice, and not nice people.....but in general i have met so nice, sweet and great american people, I have friends since 23 years ago that I hosted in their first trip to cancun, a long time ago, we still having comunication and every time they come to cancun (3 times a year) we have dinner and trips toguetherbanana applause cheering
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Jul 22, 2007 12:50 PM CST A question for our non-American friends...
EnGee
EnGeeEnGeeLindsay, Ontario Canada3 Threads 192 Posts
I would have to agree with that advice PseudoSavant.


I don't think you can idividualize the country, politics and people, it all comes under the same umbrella outside of your borders.

To generalize, the US isn't held in high regard by your 'friends' in the UK, so imagine the feelings elsewhere in the world. They probably fall somewhere between indifference and pure hate.

It's a pity, as we should all be judged as individual people, but we are not.
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Jul 22, 2007 12:52 PM CST A question for our non-American friends...
PseudoSavant
PseudoSavantPseudoSavantHENDERSON, Nevada USA2 Threads 170 Posts
Seriously? You have met people who think Holland is in Germany?
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Jul 22, 2007 12:54 PM CST A question for our non-American friends...
petethepainter
petethepainterpetethepainterinverness, UK21 Threads 862 Posts
I think the travel agent gave your friend some wrong advice! does he honestly think he will be shot, killed or blown-up just because he is an american??

An individaul american is just not THAT important! he'd maybe have a few problems if he went to iraq, but europe and africa?? No! I don't think so!!

What do I think of individaul Americans? pretty much the same as I think of al people from all over the world... we are equal with both good and bad in us all!

Strange thread! dunno confused
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Jul 22, 2007 12:58 PM CST A question for our non-American friends...
cheshireman
cheshiremancheshiremanstockport, Greater Manchester, England UK8 Threads 439 Posts
That is a ridiculous staement bordering on paranoia.
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Jul 22, 2007 12:58 PM CST A question for our non-American friends...
kazzz
kazzzkazzzdublin, Dublin Ireland45 Threads 778 Posts
i agree with uwave
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Jul 22, 2007 12:59 PM CST A question for our non-American friends...
EnGee
EnGeeEnGeeLindsay, Ontario Canada3 Threads 192 Posts
There are plenty that think Canada is snow covered 12 months of the year and that we still go down to the bottom of the garden to the dunny!!
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Jul 22, 2007 12:59 PM CST A question for our non-American friends...
PseudoSavant
PseudoSavantPseudoSavantHENDERSON, Nevada USA2 Threads 170 Posts
I think it's a legitimate question when people are telling you that you should lie about who you are... I just wanted some feedback.
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Jul 22, 2007 1:00 PM CST A question for our non-American friends...
kazzz
kazzzkazzzdublin, Dublin Ireland45 Threads 778 Posts
no wayrolling on the floor laughing
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Jul 22, 2007 1:04 PM CST A question for our non-American friends...
cheshireman
cheshiremancheshiremanstockport, Greater Manchester, England UK8 Threads 439 Posts
so if your an american travelling the world just wear a big coat and a diaper laugh
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Jul 22, 2007 1:10 PM CST A question for our non-American friends...
Ojazos
OjazosOjazosCancun, Quintana Roo Mexico98 Threads 2,894 Posts
well in fact i met a man from norway in cancun, and he was very surprised that I knew where was norway.....i mean....what people from those places thinks about mexican people ?????confused dunno
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Jul 22, 2007 1:12 PM CST A question for our non-American friends...
Ojazos
OjazosOjazosCancun, Quintana Roo Mexico98 Threads 2,894 Posts
well i can see muct opf the people on the thread is from UK..



so walk in.....dancing


walk out!!joy cartwheel gotta go joy cartwheel gotta go
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Jul 22, 2007 1:13 PM CST A question for our non-American friends...
PseudoSavant
PseudoSavantPseudoSavantHENDERSON, Nevada USA2 Threads 170 Posts
I have to confess I recently chatted with a lady from Lithuania and I wasn't entirely sure where it was, but I had some idea of the general area... A wrong idea as it turned out.
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Jul 22, 2007 1:16 PM CST A question for our non-American friends...
Ojazos
OjazosOjazosCancun, Quintana Roo Mexico98 Threads 2,894 Posts
dont get mad...but american people sometimes does not know anything else besides their own city...sorry (no mad please)
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Jul 22, 2007 1:18 PM CST A question for our non-American friends...
PseudoSavant
PseudoSavantPseudoSavantHENDERSON, Nevada USA2 Threads 170 Posts
I'm not mad. I asked everyone to be honest. That is honest.
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Jul 22, 2007 1:21 PM CST A question for our non-American friends...
petethepainter
petethepainterpetethepainterinverness, UK21 Threads 862 Posts
have you a problem with people from the UK? or have I just mis-understood your post?? dunno confused
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Jul 22, 2007 1:22 PM CST A question for our non-American friends...
FunGuyWithBrain
FunGuyWithBrainFunGuyWithBrainNorth Liberty, Iowa USA10 Threads 4,741 Posts
I think that question would be answered differently in Europe than for example in Africa and maybe Asia.

I've lived in the U.S. for a long time now but I can tell you that the view of Americans has changed, at least in central Europe. I don't think you will find much real hate in Europe but definitely a loss of respect. The biggest issue people have is that Americans seem arrogant and disrespectful to other countries. I know your question was about the individual American but the negative image of George Bush and the actions of his administration do leak into the overall picture of the American people, especially for the average Joe who probably doesn't know any individuals. The American president was elected by its people, so he somewhat reflects an image of all Americans to other countries even though he doesn't have many supporters left in this country either.

Another big issue is religion. Bush's religious comments and his "direct line to God" leaves a bitter taste for most Europeans who can't stand the idea of mixing politics and personal beliefs.

On a personal note: there are still people in this country (mostly extreme Christian conservatives) who either defend Bush or at least the war in Iraq. They are ultra-patriotic, uninformed and very outspoken. I believe the majority of Americans is reasonable, but the problem is they don't stand up for their beliefs. They chalk those right-wingers off as a few crazy people that should be ignored. Exactly that is the problem. A few bad apples give the whole crop a bad name. I think rational people need to speak up and defend their opinion of what they believe is right, even if it seems obvious to many people. It would change the media and subsequently the impression of the majority of Americans to the outside.
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Jul 22, 2007 1:38 PM CST A question for our non-American friends...
dreamer_too
dreamer_toodreamer_tooTransplanted to, North Carolina USA4 Threads 208 Posts
I probably shouldn't butt in but I'm gonna. I agree, there are arrogant people who live in the US but not all of us. Unless the Americian citizen is 100% Native American, they have no claim except to say they are thru an ancestor who traveled here for one reason or another. They arrogance began back in a time when we were a Bristish Colony. Talk about arrogance, wow!!! Maybe I only see it now because I'm digging deeply into history of people and what life was like 250 years ago. Then there are those bloody dang immigration laws up to 1906. What part of European history would you like me to recite? I probably know just about as much about it as I do American history. Ok, I'm frustrated with my years of genealogy research. All I want to know is the answer to a few questions. Instead, I hit major roadblocks of attitude. I've run into those same basic attitudes all my life. When in the UK, I heard, "go back to America". When I lived in Virginia, I heard "go back to New York". When I moved here, I will admit it was different. Basically, I was told I needed "language lessons" badly and I've failed them, too.

Ok, I'll get off my soapbox until I start on it. Maybe I really have found something I'm very passionate about, the right to immigrate to where ever the h*ll you want.
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Jul 22, 2007 1:47 PM CST A question for our non-American friends...
drusilla
drusilladrusillaanywhere, Scotland UK7 Posts
Alas I did. They seem to think Holland was not liberated on something, or they confuse Dutch with Deutsch??? I don't know.

Sorry 4 the negativity, I was just trying to get the debate/ discussion going. I have met loads of nice Americans on my trips 2 the UK !wink
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