Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal??? ( Archived) (74)

Aug 6, 2007 3:32 PM CST Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal???
poolak
poolakpoolakTehran, Iran74 Threads 430 Posts
Should America keep terorisits in a 5 star hotel??? ( please do not become angry and reply politely as you are)
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Aug 6, 2007 4:17 PM CST Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal???
cherokeemoon
cherokeemooncherokeemoongrove, Oklahoma USA13 Threads 711 Posts
Absolutely not.But I did seen some of the footage of what the guards were doing to the prisons.It was horrible and they got punished as they should have.When we do the same as the prisoners we become as barbaric as they r.
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Aug 6, 2007 4:18 PM CST Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal???
Spartan73
Spartan73Spartan73Mersyside, Merseyside, England UK22 Threads 1,206 Posts
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Aug 6, 2007 4:21 PM CST Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal???
Roguecop
RoguecopRoguecopElko, Nevada USA218 Threads 3,885 Posts
I think once they are a confirmed terrorist you execute them as criminals and send a message to their leaders.
Then if it doesn't stop you systematically begin erasing their Immediate family members and work your way up the food chain till they get the message and it all stops.
Seems Barbaric but if your going to fight this sort of thing your not going to be able to do it and win by conventional means.
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Aug 6, 2007 4:24 PM CST Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal???
Spartan73
Spartan73Spartan73Mersyside, Merseyside, England UK22 Threads 1,206 Posts
Or better still, keep them alive in some semblence of dignity. Firstly, that shows them how civilized your nation is, and secondly, prevents them from becoming martyrs and ending up in heaven with a thousand virgins.wine
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Aug 6, 2007 4:26 PM CST Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal???
cherokeemoon
cherokeemooncherokeemoongrove, Oklahoma USA13 Threads 711 Posts
I agree 100%.But when it comes to torture,thats there game not ours.I honestly dont know how I would feel if I had a relative in Iraq,or if I was there myself,but I believe I would still feel the same about torture.
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Aug 6, 2007 4:28 PM CST Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal???
lorraine
lorrainelorraineDublin, Ireland104 Threads 2,717 Posts
wow
you are so right.
About the barbaric part that is.

and you dare to call me a terrorist,
while you look down your gunroll eyes
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Aug 6, 2007 4:31 PM CST Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal???
Algarion
AlgarionAlgarionPatras, West Greece Greece183 Threads 2,961 Posts
Well i always believed that every prison in the world never achives the goal for which it was build....To help criminals come back to the society. It's a very awful thing really. You enter the jail and you get out a worse criminal than you were. And the problem is that i can't find any country that actually tryes to fix that problem.
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Aug 6, 2007 4:43 PM CST Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal???
Spartan73
Spartan73Spartan73Mersyside, Merseyside, England UK22 Threads 1,206 Posts
Dude, I refuse to take life...period. No matter what the circumstances, I refuse to deny any other living thing the right to life, irrespective of what they've done to me or mine. It's how I live my life. Violence leads to more violence ultimately.

We see things differently there I'm afraid, but I totally see where you're coming from.wine
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Aug 6, 2007 4:45 PM CST Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal???
mastic55
mastic55mastic55Long Island, New York USA167 Threads 6,859 Posts
They should cut their head"s off.
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Aug 6, 2007 4:47 PM CST Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal???
Roguecop
RoguecopRoguecopElko, Nevada USA218 Threads 3,885 Posts
I deplore taking life as well, but Hey if your going to fight this, you have to use unconventional means.
You employ these methods and I bet your bombing drop right off the charts , Virgins or no virgins.
After all if your going to fight, fight to win.
Don't sit there and try to give them Psychological counseling, they don't care about that crap, all they want is to kill anyone who doesn't align with their Belief system.
Besides a True Muslum doesn't think like these guys, the ones doing it are a minority.
Eliminate them and everyone around them and it will stop like yesterday .
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Aug 6, 2007 4:48 PM CST Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal???
Spartan73
Spartan73Spartan73Mersyside, Merseyside, England UK22 Threads 1,206 Posts
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Aug 6, 2007 4:49 PM CST Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal???
Spartan73
Spartan73Spartan73Mersyside, Merseyside, England UK22 Threads 1,206 Posts
Oops, meant for Lorraine...not that I'm being unkind to you my friend, I just agree with her appraisal of the situation in Ireland and it's ultimate folly.
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Aug 6, 2007 4:52 PM CST Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal???
Spartan73
Spartan73Spartan73Mersyside, Merseyside, England UK22 Threads 1,206 Posts
Dude, principles are worth so much more if you keep them when it's inconvenient. What about rising above provocation? What about teaching through example? What about not exploiting people for political and fiscal gain, thereby promoting inequality?

I'm sorry, The Western nations (some) have brought this situation on themselves...and now see the solution laying in being equally barbaric as these nuts.
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Aug 6, 2007 5:06 PM CST Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal???
poolak
poolakpoolakTehran, Iran74 Threads 430 Posts
They are not minority! waves of fundementalism is growing day by day in middle esat!
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Aug 6, 2007 5:07 PM CST Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal???
Oslojente
OslojenteOslojenteOlso, Oslo Norway142 Threads 1 Polls 4,992 Posts
No wonder, as they are seing the injustice done, and the way people are treated!
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Aug 6, 2007 5:12 PM CST Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal???
poolak
poolakpoolakTehran, Iran74 Threads 430 Posts
Killing their families??? kiling their childeren????
And you win the war???

You are going very harsh! I do not speak is it kind or not, but it is not so easy as you think!

You are fighting with people who are ready to kill themselves to desrtroy you!

But what about your soldiers? ( no insult)

It is a very simple answer to a very complictaed subject!
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Aug 6, 2007 5:14 PM CST Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal???
Oslojente
OslojenteOslojenteOlso, Oslo Norway142 Threads 1 Polls 4,992 Posts
It's not a simple answer, I find it to absolutely appalling to think like that... scold
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Aug 6, 2007 5:16 PM CST Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal???
skimpydoo
skimpydooskimpydooDublin, Ireland170 Threads 3 Polls 4,805 Posts
I agree with Lorraine as regards Northern Ireland. The day after Bloody Sunday the IRA got so many new recruits. If we kill these people in Guantanamo Bay they will become Martrys and there will be so many new recruits to Al Queda etc just like how how the IRA got loads after Bloody Sunday.
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Aug 6, 2007 5:16 PM CST Guantanamo bay: A Human Rights Scandal???
Roguecop
RoguecopRoguecopElko, Nevada USA218 Threads 3,885 Posts
Its this type of thinking which allows this sort of thing to continue.
My opinion is my opinion, If I was told how would you fight this war, these are the tactics I would use.
Making it Inconvenient for them just buys them time.
If your family , was wiped out by one of these suicide madd Bombers, I bet you would change your tune for about a week or so and want an eye for an eye.
War is Nasty Dirty Business, If I have to fight Im going to do what ever it takes to win that fight .
And if you you say the numbers are growing every day ?
Then use the Sattleite technology to find these guys coupled with on the ground dependable intelligence and send them some greetings via cruz Missiles with anti personnel charges attached.'
War is Hell, I don't like it but if your going to do it do it well.
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