Psychopath ( Archived) (62)

Aug 23, 2007 7:01 PM CST Psychopath
Oslojente
OslojenteOslojenteOlso, Oslo Norway142 Threads 1 Polls 4,992 Posts
It has been shown that punishment and behavior modification techniques do not improve the behavior of a psychopath. They have been regularly observed to respond to both by becoming more cunning and hiding their behavior better. It has been suggested that traditional therapeutic approaches actually make them, if not worse, then far more adept at manipulating others and concealing their behavior. They are generally considered to be not only incurable but also untreatable.

Psychopaths also have a markedly distorted sense of the potential consequences of their actions, not only for others, but also for themselves. They do not, for example, deeply recognize the risk of being caught, disbelieved or injured as a result of their behaviour.
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Aug 23, 2007 7:01 PM CST Psychopath
jodigirlsfree
jodigirlsfreejodigirlsfreeConway, South Carolina USA48 Threads 1,843 Posts
i know hon, np all is good.....hug
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Aug 23, 2007 7:02 PM CST Psychopath
Unicornelle
UnicornelleUnicornelleQuebec, Canada47 Threads 1,675 Posts
handshake hug grin
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Aug 23, 2007 7:04 PM CST Psychopath
class
classclassLiverpool, Merseyside, England UK143 Threads 809 Posts
A lack of empathy is typical.
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Aug 23, 2007 7:06 PM CST Psychopath
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Yes exactly and they are untreatable...The higher they rate on the check list the more psychopathic they are and the more untreatable they become...They are now thinking of using this check list in Britain as part of their corporate hiring pratice to ensure they are not hiring a psychopath...Why?...Because there have been actual businesses that have went under due to one psychopathic manager within an organization due to the divide and conquer, manipulation and outright bullying that went on...Most if not all of their good people end up quitting oir being fired and there is nobody productive left to sustain the company!

conversing conversing
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Aug 23, 2007 7:06 PM CST Psychopath
jodigirlsfree
jodigirlsfreejodigirlsfreeConway, South Carolina USA48 Threads 1,843 Posts
hug hug grin applause thumbs up
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Aug 23, 2007 7:10 PM CST Psychopath
Mysticalguy
MysticalguyMysticalguyEvansville, USA38 Threads 1,164 Posts
Unfortunately for us " sane people" the Psychopath very seldom inhibits ALL those traits and almost all of them know exactly what ails them and are able to "act" the part of a "sane" person.
My dad had a few mental illnesses he genetically "gifted" me with and it took quite a few years to remedy but I am proud to say that not only have I eradicated them from my psyche, on my own, but am now surprised to find out that I mentally more stable than a lot of the folks I meet out there in the world.
One more reason for "universal health coverage". People need help!
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Aug 23, 2007 7:21 PM CST Psychopath
Oslojente
OslojenteOslojenteOlso, Oslo Norway142 Threads 1 Polls 4,992 Posts
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Aug 23, 2007 7:21 PM CST Psychopath
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
Off topic, just curious. There is no Banff IN BC. It's in AB.
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Aug 23, 2007 7:22 PM CST Psychopath
mylifewithu
mylifewithumylifewithuSpringfield, Missouri USA174 Threads 23,670 Posts
Thanks Oslo , A Very good thread !!thumbs up thumbs up
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Aug 23, 2007 7:23 PM CST Psychopath
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Good for you...You're right...that's what makes a psychopath do dangerous is because they can convince everybody they are normal...It's not until you actually study them that you can start to identify and see how it is they manipulate...interact and actually accomplish the things they do!

Kudos to you for having the strength to recognize and deal with the things you need to on your own!


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Aug 23, 2007 7:42 PM CST Psychopath
Mysticalguy
MysticalguyMysticalguyEvansville, USA38 Threads 1,164 Posts
Thank you.handshake
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Aug 23, 2007 7:46 PM CST Psychopath
Oslojente
OslojenteOslojenteOlso, Oslo Norway142 Threads 1 Polls 4,992 Posts
The following childhood indicators are to be interpreted not as to the type of behavior, but as to its relentless and unvarying occurrence. Not all must be present concurrently, but at least a number of them need to be present over a period of years:

An extended period of bedwetting past the preschool years that is not due to any medical problem.
Cruelty to animals beyond an angry outburst.
Firesetting and other vandalism. Not to be confused with playing with matches, which is not uncommon for preschoolers. This is the deliberate setting of destructive fires with utter disregard for the property and lives of others.
Lying, often without discernible objectives, extending beyond a child's normal impulse not to be punished. Lies that are so extensive that it is often impossible to know lies from truth.
Theft and truancy.
Aggression to peers, not necessarily physical, which can include getting others into trouble or a campaign of psychological torment.
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Aug 23, 2007 7:53 PM CST Psychopath
Loving_Life
Loving_LifeLoving_Lifeprince george, Canada2 Posts
A very good thread and very informative...It just highlights the fact that a person can be ill on the outside and it's visable for all to see but when it's with the mind it takes a lot longer and can remain hidden! I would expect that the phsycopath is the last one to realise he/she is unwell! Scary thought eh?
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Aug 23, 2007 7:55 PM CST Psychopath
class
classclassLiverpool, Merseyside, England UK143 Threads 809 Posts
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Aggression to peers, not necessarily physical, which
can include getting others into trouble or a campaign of psychological torment.

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And they just don't get it ........whatever the it may be
they bare oblivious...... no empathys
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Aug 23, 2007 7:55 PM CST Psychopath
Oslojente
OslojenteOslojenteOlso, Oslo Norway142 Threads 1 Polls 4,992 Posts
They usually don't see it themselves...
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Aug 23, 2007 8:01 PM CST Psychopath
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
NO they don't...Case in point...On the documentary last night a man who had spent all but about 7 years of his life in jail for various crimes had completed the pshychopathy check list and rated high on the scale...indicating he was a clear psychpath and possessed most of the traits...The only thing he was concerned with was the fact that now he was labelled as untreatable and that he was not consulted about the test...Not about the consequences of his actions or anything else...Nor was there any remorse or admission on his part that he very well could be or is sick!


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Aug 23, 2007 8:05 PM CST Psychopath
You didn't mention "narccisit",very close and fits alot of your definitions.Very hard to detect without testing and knowing history of person,they are so charming on the outside,cause they are acting out what they have learned to do.They are born without a concienes-sp sorry.They learn from what they see and hear but can't feel emotions from birth.Very sad
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Aug 23, 2007 9:13 PM CST Psychopath
Oslojente
OslojenteOslojenteOlso, Oslo Norway142 Threads 1 Polls 4,992 Posts
thumbs up I was looking for something like that!!!! Thanks!!!
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Aug 23, 2007 9:14 PM CST Psychopath
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
FIVE DON'T DO'S
How to Avoid the Wrath of the Narcissist


Never disagree with the narcissist or contradict him

Never offer him any intimacy

Look awed by whatever attribute matters to him (for instance: by his professional achievements or by his good looks, or by his success with women and so on)

Never remind him of life out there and if you do, connect it somehow to his sense of grandiosity

Do not make any comment, which might directly or indirectly impinge on his self-image, omnipotence, judgment, omniscience, skills, capabilities, professional record, or even omnipresence. Bad sentences start with: "I think you overlooked ... made a mistake here ... you don't know ... do you know ... you were not here yesterday so ... you cannot ... you should ... (perceived as rude imposition, narcissists react very badly to restrictions placed on their freedom) ... I (never mention the fact that you are a separate, independent entity, narcissists regard others as extensions of their selves, their internalization processes were screwed up and they did not differentiate properly) ..." You get the gist of it.




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