Ah well i bought a necklace made of larimar i wanted to do some investingating on the origin of it and then it is refered to as the Atlantis stone...so for 3 hours now I've been reading some philosophers theories on Atlantis......hence was wondering what others thought of the whole atlantis thing (will have to bookmark the names you mentioned though)
ooooo oooo i played with plato when i was little and when i left the lid off it got all hard like stone mabe thoa are the rocks you got or is it plado i cant rmember been a long time im sure some1 will correct me
Cayce was not a philosopher. He was a special phenomenon, a person somehow capable of giving accurate health readings and advice while in a kind of trance. In these trances, he sometimes spoke of other things, including Atlantis. Plato referred to Atlantis as well in the context of recounting stories he'd heard. There is so far no proof such a continent existed between µEurope and N America.
As far as philosophers go, I lean to Nietsche also. But his European intellectualism seems stark compared to the simplicity of much that is essentially similar in eastern thought, like Lao Tzu.
thank you for your clarification of cayce, i perhaps used the wrong words altho he was labled the silent prophet I believe. I also read he revealed many things while in his trances and interpreted many peoples dreams which lead to hundreds of occurences of people whos spirit was of the atlantean people. He also forsaw the finding of the dead sea scrolls. Im still learning and reading so by no means am i well educated on philosophy but i welcome all recommended works by others.
kenigsbergkentville, Nova Scotia Canada1,127 posts
i want to believe ... but those translation from the ancient languages are so unclear....so probably i will just wait and hope that will find it - the land of Poseidon ... my favorite God by the way... :^) Very wise he is ... And my favorite colors are colors of the ocean Marina :^)
yes the language interpritation can be muddled but also the etmology of the words and symbols have an importance as well, their meaning can be analyzed into something completely different. In the times of plato history was recored mainly by memory, also his description of atlantis was stopped short in his journals. Some thought it was merely a story he created but then back to cayce's visions about finding something off of bimi and the prediction that something would be found in 1986, whish something was seems very coincidental. never the less cayces ability to forsee health problems in people he never met I have to say is quite outstanding.
I was trying to look up some of Neitzshe's works and it seems to be a very unclear maze on the net as to his teachings. The only things that i found about him was critics saying he spoke in almost poety like ways and offered many angles on the same subject and actual reasonings of his thoughts were also "muddled" so to say. But I havent come across actual works by him. do you have any suggestions as to where I should start?
kenigsbergkentville, Nova Scotia Canada1,127 posts
Adreanna here is a couple of I. Kant's works that can be interesting for you ... but when you will read them do remember I. Kant was never married ... He often said about himself that when he needed a wife he was too poor to feed one, and when he was at last able to feed one he did not need one anymore. Anyhow The Science of Right and Critique of Judgment gave me a lot to think about ... I would like to know what do you think about The Science of Right... just curious...lol Marina :^)
I admit that the science of right is complex, when reading i took from it that right is sought through analyzing freedom,morality,and surrenduring, not stating that this is what right is but these three must be looked at when defining right. Here is three principles i pulled from an exerpt.
1. Honeste vive. “Live rightly.” juridical rectitude, or honour (honestas juridica), consists in maintaining one’s own worth as a man in relation to others. This duty may be rendered by the proposition: “Do not make thyself a mere means for the use of others, but be to them likewise an end.”
(lex justi). 2. Neminem laede. “Do wrong to no one.” This formula may be rendered so as to mean: “Do no wrong to any one, even if thou shouldst be under the necessity, in observing this duty, to cease from all connection with others and to avoid all society”
(lex juridica). 3. Suum cuique tribue. “Assign to every one what is his own.” This may be rendered, “Enter, if wrong cannot be avoided, into a society with others in which every one may have secured to him what is his own.” .
thank you for your suggestion(will have a good read tonight lol)
ooo I was wondering if you ever heard the explanation of the diamon? origination of thought came from socrates, but the thought of the diamon is quit insperational especially popular in a womans perspective.
Mike42FilmmakerLos Angeles, California USA142 posts
Yes, and thus begins Western Civilization as we know it.
Very good excerpts. I love women who have minds.
It's so attractive to have a woman quote the classics.
In the Empires before Greece, there was publishing of individual liberties which the US so-called "Patriot Act" takes away. After 2,000 years of civilization and thinking we have these principles removed by non-Greeks.
I like Plato's view of the noble savage. I thought the philosopher king was pretty cool. I always thought it would be neat to find the philosopher's stone.
kenigsbergkentville, Nova Scotia Canada1,127 posts
Adreanna as for Nietsche The Gay Science is a very enjoyable tto read. And intresting concepts and meanings of his Amor Fati ... you are definently will be busy in the evenings from now on... lol
I see your point of view. I remember in philosophy class the ideas of concepts in the virtual world were compared to forms in the physical world. Where in the virtual world things were perfect but things in the physical world were imperfect. I thought it was significant in that perfection is an virtual ideal rather than a physical reality. I thought the reverse notion that the flaw found in physical reality can be more desirable than the perfection found in virtual reality. I found Plato's Republic to be interesting reading. I thought it was cool that he thought so much of his teacher Socrates. I thought it was also equally interesting that the Euclid's math theories were different than Einstien's formulas. I was facinated by Descartes use of x and y in his graphs. Ayn Rand's work seem to me so much more interesting than Camus. Socrates fascinated me because his gad fly approach challenged the dogma of his day. He actually went around to see if the people in high office really had any idea of what they were doing.
I read 8 or 9 pages of exerpts from the gay science,and know that much more is needed to fully understand neitzche's concept but from what i read and think i understand is this
1) Kant was on a thought about "Right"
2) Neitzche has thoughts on morality/non-morality and truth.
3) Early greeks scientifically and mathematically speeking sum the truth to be .618
Am I any where close to understanding (lol the poor layman i am)
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