does anybody really beleive that jesus christ is still coming back ?...it has been 2000 years ! (205)
RillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 PostsThe more you read the more you will understand..if that is what you want.
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Trish, the council of Nicea did NOT establish Chrisianity as a faith...they established Christianity as an organised, franchised religion.
What they did was to dilute Christian teachings with pagan beliefs to create a more blended, more acceptable set of teachings, specifically designed to encompass the practices of worship in as many disparate faiths as possible.
A very important point to be made here: this served to unite, but also to persecute those who did NOT give in to such blatant manipulation of clear Christian teaching...a la G Bush's 'If you're not for us. you're against us'.
Once again, Nicea was a blow AGAINST the real teachings of Christianity contained in the bible, whether you believe in them or not.
What they did was to dilute Christian teachings with pagan beliefs to create a more blended, more acceptable set of teachings, specifically designed to encompass the practices of worship in as many disparate faiths as possible.
A very important point to be made here: this served to unite, but also to persecute those who did NOT give in to such blatant manipulation of clear Christian teaching...a la G Bush's 'If you're not for us. you're against us'.
Once again, Nicea was a blow AGAINST the real teachings of Christianity contained in the bible, whether you believe in them or not.
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No, I agree, but they did establish christs birthday - oh and I believe there was a pertty important creed to go along with that - scuse me whilst i just google a mo!
No way - I am not having this - they diluted Pagan Teachings with Christian Propaganda - The Pagans and Boudicca were here long before the God of the Christians
Have you actually read Mallory -cos I have
No way - I am not having this - they diluted Pagan Teachings with Christian Propaganda - The Pagans and Boudicca were here long before the God of the Christians
Have you actually read Mallory -cos I have
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anybody - hellooooo anyone here 
Rayyyyyy - whereforeart-thouRay
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I have read the bible Trish...and I have studies Hebrew and Greek translations - to some degree.
And by the way, I'm delighted you've read Mallory.
As for your disagreement with me on who diluted who, this is superfluous. One diluted the other...to the detriment of BOTH!!!
Finally, as for the establishment of Christs birthday, this was to coincide with the festival of Saturnalia...I think.
Christs birthday is unknown, but it did NOT occur in December.
And by the way, I'm delighted you've read Mallory.
As for your disagreement with me on who diluted who, this is superfluous. One diluted the other...to the detriment of BOTH!!!
Finally, as for the establishment of Christs birthday, this was to coincide with the festival of Saturnalia...I think.
Christs birthday is unknown, but it did NOT occur in December.
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Rally the troops!
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yep - saturnalia and about 20 others
hebrew n greek - that dont impress me none
christs birthday was decided at the council of nicea in something like the year 375ad - i am sure somebody will come along soon to verify this
hebrew n greek - that dont impress me none
christs birthday was decided at the council of nicea in something like the year 375ad - i am sure somebody will come along soon to verify this
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I am NOT a scholar Trish...I am simply saying I have TRIED to educate myself...get to the roots of the problem.
As for your last statement, Trish, I have never disagreed with you.
As for your last statement, Trish, I have never disagreed with you.
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Not arguing Phil - just being myself and all that I know - and I have never found you disagreeing with me either
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Hey - and I am not a scholar either - n whats the hang up there anyway - I am just a kid from a counsel estate at the end of the day
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Hello New Person on the Block
are you ready for having your head chopped off
dont worry - keep on speaking out and there will be loads/ some of us, occasionally, but me more often than not (
n ray or charlos sometimes) here in the backgroind
are you ready for having your head chopped off
dont worry - keep on speaking out and there will be loads/ some of us, occasionally, but me more often than not (
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I think you have a point.
Christianity as we see it today is little short of disgraceful and disingenuous.
Christianity as we see it today is little short of disgraceful and disingenuous.
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it is a lot short of disgraceful - i want no part of it though I am a really good person and have done all sorts of voluntary work before university - whats the matter with me - I am a really good person - not meaning relationship related - just a good girl - simply not a christian - who cares then?
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not as we see it today but rather how we see it in its entirety !! - as a construct - it is flippin defunct - accept it will you - we have had E-Bloody nough 
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Be more accurate Trish...speak for yourself dear!
What you see is NOT what it IS!
What you see is NOT what it IS!
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You show anger Detente - why is this - for surely- I was speaking for myself - I have in fact, rarely been so alone 
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or so confident 
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if he did return ...how do you think he would return ?
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he/or she would probably be a boxer r something Gilly - it would be pretty amusing if we caught it - but we would prob be lookin the other way that day
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