Bush Proposes Giving D.C. $32 Million More To Boost School Reform ( Archived) (7)

Feb 2, 2008 11:11 AM CST Bush Proposes Giving D.C. $32 Million More To Boost School Reform
trublu
trublutrubluRialto, USA14 Threads 1 Polls 208 Posts
Article didn’t have many specifics as to how this money would be used, so I was wondering, what programs would you like to see added to, and which would you like to see removed? Where do you think this money should go/how should it be used to best benefit the kids?
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Feb 2, 2008 12:18 PM CST Bush Proposes Giving D.C. $32 Million More To Boost School Reform
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
the residents of D.C. have no real voice in the legislative branch of our government. who represents them? No state does it belong too.
Yeah despite the infestation of visiting lawyers, politicians, lobbyists, and lets not forget the diplomates with immunity.... which having that problem alone should grant them special funding.
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Feb 2, 2008 2:47 PM CST Bush Proposes Giving D.C. $32 Million More To Boost School Reform
tampa1
tampa1tampa1London, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,057 Posts
It's funny in our worlds, whenever we see a problem with something like schools, we toss gobs of money at it and get minimal to no results. The biggest problem here is the people have lost control of the school system. The beaureucrats have control, and we know what their good at don't we?

I'm not conviced the money will do 1 iota to make the situation better.
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Feb 2, 2008 4:07 PM CST Bush Proposes Giving D.C. $32 Million More To Boost School Reform
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
applause If it did, all of our kids would be scholars.
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Feb 3, 2008 9:19 AM CST Bush Proposes Giving D.C. $32 Million More To Boost School Reform
trublu
trublutrubluRialto, USA14 Threads 1 Polls 208 Posts
If they just took education to a local level, don't you think that the areas with more money coming from property taxes would have a whole lot better education than those in poorer areas? I think that would just cause the gap to widen, and ultimately cause a LOT of problems.
I know that just by comparing the districts in two cities within this state you will find incredible differences, because one district has so much more money than the other. Have been in 3 different districts personally, and have had to deal with 3 others with the kids, so I saw how much better it is at schools with more money.
But no, that was not the only difference I saw.
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Feb 4, 2008 6:14 AM CST Bush Proposes Giving D.C. $32 Million More To Boost School Reform
trublu
trublutrubluRialto, USA14 Threads 1 Polls 208 Posts
Well, if they are as hard to fire as govt employees that are total deadwood due to no merit increases (why bother working if they pay you just to sit there), then that alone is a problem. No one should feel so secure in their job that they think they can just stop doing it and still get paid.
But this performance stuff, gets you crap like the WASL tests they had/have in WA (don't know about other states). Some kind of test they all take to see how well they are doing. Turned into where ALL the teachers cared about was this one test. For about 2 weeks the kids were practically pounded into the ground to study for it, and back to fighting and spit wads the rest of the year. If they are going to get paid by how well their students do, maybe if they just used a simple test on the first day, then again on the last, to see how far each student has progressed from taking their class.
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Feb 5, 2008 9:15 AM CST Bush Proposes Giving D.C. $32 Million More To Boost School Reform
trublu
trublutrubluRialto, USA14 Threads 1 Polls 208 Posts
Tampa, I think you misunderstood my post. I was not trying to say that all are, just that they have that policy (no merit increases) so there are MANY of them. A friend of mine worked for the govt here (and I can only comment on that, not what it is like working for the Canadian govt, and I am sure there are differences, like when you said it wasn’t that hard to fire there, and the reasons why they don’t, not the same here on that point). She was one of those you described as actually wanting to do good work and hussled her butt off to get it done. What she got for her efforts was to have the deadwoods dump their work on her as well, being harassed by the deadwood thinking her mission was just to make them look bad, as opposed to simply trying to keep the unit running while they sat there and watched. She got so fed up she finally resigned. They had to hire 3 people to cover the work load she had been doing.
But every time raises had been passed out, these deadwoods usually got more, because of seniority.
In the local schools, there was a teacher who got an award for doing such good work, and was then harrassed by her co-workers for it so much she relocated to another school. This BS is actually causing part of the decline in quality when the good ones get sick of taking the crap from the deadwoods who are so defensive in their guilt that they only see another as trying to "make them look bad" if they dare to do well.
LOL and car salesmen do only get paid if the car sells. On the flip side, the guy who built the car that had the brakes go out in the first month, yeah, fire him.
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