proud to be brithish (193)
ajdadd: I have found many foreigners to be very nice people. I have worked with Polish before, i admit i find it hard to understand him, he was a nice bloke an he tried his hardest to help me with my work.
I believe that people percieve the majority of blacks, afghans, eastern european etc in a negative sterotype for coming here and sponging of the system and taking money away from hospitals, causing social troubles.
I admit that there are some that sponge of the system, that I am not content about but many white people sponge off the system as well as, which again I am not content with.
However I believe that there are many hardworking immigrants who pay taxes and keep to social order, support british politics. Those people I'll happily call Britsh as we have been multi cultural since we became an island. For example we had many french, saxons, celts, norse and many others call this their home.
I hope I have given you a balanced view.
I believe that people percieve the majority of blacks, afghans, eastern european etc in a negative sterotype for coming here and sponging of the system and taking money away from hospitals, causing social troubles.
I admit that there are some that sponge of the system, that I am not content about but many white people sponge off the system as well as, which again I am not content with.
However I believe that there are many hardworking immigrants who pay taxes and keep to social order, support british politics. Those people I'll happily call Britsh as we have been multi cultural since we became an island. For example we had many french, saxons, celts, norse and many others call this their home.
I hope I have given you a balanced view.
Well said, fella. Agree with pretty much all you said
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Seabiscuit: The way you put your opinion across is bigoted, yes.
However, I'm in agreement with you regarding the migrants that come over for a free ride, don't need them, don't want them.. But to blame all the problems we have in the country on them is out of order IMO as there as many English people who are more than happy to stay on the dole all their life and think the world owes them something. Did you see the White season on BBC2? They offered a lad £7 an hour to pick vegetables and he told them he'd rather sign on!
We need to look at ourselves and our own people before we blame everyone else.
However, I'm in agreement with you regarding the migrants that come over for a free ride, don't need them, don't want them.. But to blame all the problems we have in the country on them is out of order IMO as there as many English people who are more than happy to stay on the dole all their life and think the world owes them something. Did you see the White season on BBC2? They offered a lad £7 an hour to pick vegetables and he told them he'd rather sign on!
We need to look at ourselves and our own people before we blame everyone else.
I see that your only 24 well i aint getting into a row with you over this, but know this how safe are your kids going to be???? I feel sorry for my kid being raised in the dump of an empire, cause when i was a kid i remember it was safe to go and play outside, Iv seen the changes you have not.
and as for the £7 n hour kid so what, there not all like that, nothing compared to the 1 eyed muslim hooked hand extreme cleric that comes here takes the tax payers money and tells us that we are scum eh lol
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ernie64: u aint seen wot i have seen your used to the way it is here, and as for white english people taking the piss out of the system good luck to the ones that r able to, but i doubt that there is many that can, cause they dont qualify cause there english, that is fact, dont matter that they were born n bred here and paid there taxes in the past, thats the whole point im getting at, as the penny dropped yet????????????
I wonder if u lost your job and your house, how much the NHS would help you out, do u think they would stick you in a brand new home give u a grand to buy a car a lump some of money per week and pay your utility bills????? cause thats wots going on Iv told you that people have left there jobs in disgust over it
I wonder if u lost your job and your house, how much the NHS would help you out, do u think they would stick you in a brand new home give u a grand to buy a car a lump some of money per week and pay your utility bills????? cause thats wots going on Iv told you that people have left there jobs in disgust over it
In response to: and as for white english people taking the piss out of the system good luck to the ones that r able to
That is everything that is wrong with the country! You are amazingly hypocritical.. If a foreigner were to take the piss out of benefits you would be up in arms about it!
As for other point, why would the NHS give anyone a house or money for a car? They give health care.. Health care that I assume you will refuse if ever needed due to the fact that a lot of the doctors and surgeons are foreign?
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Seabiscuit: That is everything that is wrong with the country! You are amazingly hypocritical.. If a foreigner were to take the piss out of benefits you would be up in arms about it!
As for other point, why would the NHS give anyone a house or money for a car? They give health care.. Health care that I assume you will refuse if ever needed due to the fact that a lot of the doctors and surgeons are foreign?
As for other point, why would the NHS give anyone a house or money for a car? They give health care.. Health care that I assume you will refuse if ever needed due to the fact that a lot of the doctors and surgeons are foreign?
your not reading my posts properly u got a bit of chinese in you, and your unstable, by the way got nothing against the chinese never have never will.
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ernie64: your not reading my posts properly u got a bit of chinese in you, and your unstable, by the way got nothing against the chinese never have never will.
That is out of order - gone too far now!
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porsha69: That is out of order - gone too far now!
Don't worry about it sweet, I'm not.
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porsha69: That is out of order - gone too far now!
Oh a blast from the past hello josephine and how r u doin
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ernie64: Did i??? i said good luck to them, I d rather hope the high taxes i pay go to helping british born n bred folk not a bunch o scrounging foreingers now end it
Your ignorance has no end!
I'd rather have 10 hard working tax paying law abiding foreigners than 10 benefit scrounging hood wearing layabout British people..
May I suggest you take your self off to the BNP forum...
Again, no answer to the questions posed to you, thus further proving you haven't a clue what your on about.
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Seabiscuit: It's far from me being bitter about the crap my Grandad took, believe me, the ones who gave him grief all those years got theirs in the end!
What does it matter if they send their money home to their family? After all, it's already been taxed, thus they've put some back in.. Just the same as you or I do..
Again I say, so what if they have a few kids and need their money topping up by the benefits? Thats what they're there for.. You get plenty of it by English people, my sister is a single Mum, she works but is on a low income and gets her money topped up with benefits..
I'd rather have them working and topping their money up with a benefit than have the Matthews lot (Shannons family, been on the news a hell of a lot).. 8 kids by 5 blokes, no job with no intention of getting one, living off of benefits..
What does it matter if they send their money home to their family? After all, it's already been taxed, thus they've put some back in.. Just the same as you or I do..
Again I say, so what if they have a few kids and need their money topping up by the benefits? Thats what they're there for.. You get plenty of it by English people, my sister is a single Mum, she works but is on a low income and gets her money topped up with benefits..
I'd rather have them working and topping their money up with a benefit than have the Matthews lot (Shannons family, been on the news a hell of a lot).. 8 kids by 5 blokes, no job with no intention of getting one, living off of benefits..
Have a pint on me dude no offence
u got your views i got mine we could go on forever
chat the ladies thats what we r here for really
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ernie64: Have a pint on me dude no offence
u got your views i got mine we could go on forever
chat the ladies thats what we r here for really
u got your views i got mine we could go on forever
chat the ladies thats what we r here for really
No offence taken, fella.
Decent little debate that
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Amen 
The End
The End
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Whooooo Haaaaaaa dark dreamer.
Seeing you are a late comer on this Thread.
And hav.nt seen the recent poll taken on Immigration.. If you had you would discover that the Majority are in favor or new laws being introduced to tighten down on immigration.
I think a visit to the opticians would assist you. As there has only been ONE person to identify themselves to a democratic party the BNP
That person is ME. No one else.
So the site is not being infiltrated by the BNP.
But by ppl who now see that MASSimmigration is not working.
I do accept however your description of the THATCHER years.
If you wathed Channel 4 monday nite you would of seen its not only JOHNNY ENGLISH who are disturbed by the mass influx every nite Even the ASIAN communities are worried.
The afro caribbean communities are also concerned by the amount of ppl coming here./
All i do is flow with the democratic poll taken on this site who favor something has to be done
Obviously you object to THERE opinions
Your very knowledgable account of our history is commendable
BUT im concerned as many others are regarding our future
Seeing you are a late comer on this Thread.
And hav.nt seen the recent poll taken on Immigration.. If you had you would discover that the Majority are in favor or new laws being introduced to tighten down on immigration.
I think a visit to the opticians would assist you. As there has only been ONE person to identify themselves to a democratic party the BNP
That person is ME. No one else.
So the site is not being infiltrated by the BNP.
But by ppl who now see that MASSimmigration is not working.
I do accept however your description of the THATCHER years.
If you wathed Channel 4 monday nite you would of seen its not only JOHNNY ENGLISH who are disturbed by the mass influx every nite Even the ASIAN communities are worried.
The afro caribbean communities are also concerned by the amount of ppl coming here./
All i do is flow with the democratic poll taken on this site who favor something has to be done
Obviously you object to THERE opinions
Your very knowledgable account of our history is commendable
BUT im concerned as many others are regarding our future
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Well I am happy to be corrected that you are the only open memeber of the BNP on the site, to be honest I didn't have the inclination to read through the whole 10 pages of the thread, but my eyesite is excellent thankyou for being so concerned.
I did in fact see the programme on Channel 4 and i also saw the series of programmes on BBC 2, partculary the one called "the poles are coming" which showed a very diverese view of opinions in the UK on immigration.
Many of the differing opinions which have been voiced on this thread in fact.
I certainly do agree, as I stated that immigration is a concern for many people at the moment, but I don't object to peoples opinions even those of the BNP, I just happen to disagree with them.
What I object to is inflamitory and demeaning langauge such as "goat herders and basket weavers" being used to objectify people who have a legal right to be in the country, and peoples reall concerns being used to further the political aims of an organisation that I wholly disagree with.
The fact that asian communites and afro-carribean communites have the same concerns as white working class communites should come as no suprise as during the 70's in which most of their communites were established, they were invited to come to the big manufacturing centres.
This in no way invalidates my arguments, as they have been affected as much as the rest of the population of the uk by the factors i mentioned before and others.
The fact that some of them jump to the same age old, simple conclusions, is no suprise either, when they are subject to the media looking for the next big story to justify it's self, and your party targeting their and other communites to spread hate under the guise of caring for local issues.
I have no problem with people expressing their views, even ones which I find repelent, or that are ill thought out or argued. I just can't let them go unchallenged.
I did in fact see the programme on Channel 4 and i also saw the series of programmes on BBC 2, partculary the one called "the poles are coming" which showed a very diverese view of opinions in the UK on immigration.
Many of the differing opinions which have been voiced on this thread in fact.
I certainly do agree, as I stated that immigration is a concern for many people at the moment, but I don't object to peoples opinions even those of the BNP, I just happen to disagree with them.
What I object to is inflamitory and demeaning langauge such as "goat herders and basket weavers" being used to objectify people who have a legal right to be in the country, and peoples reall concerns being used to further the political aims of an organisation that I wholly disagree with.
The fact that asian communites and afro-carribean communites have the same concerns as white working class communites should come as no suprise as during the 70's in which most of their communites were established, they were invited to come to the big manufacturing centres.
This in no way invalidates my arguments, as they have been affected as much as the rest of the population of the uk by the factors i mentioned before and others.
The fact that some of them jump to the same age old, simple conclusions, is no suprise either, when they are subject to the media looking for the next big story to justify it's self, and your party targeting their and other communites to spread hate under the guise of caring for local issues.
I have no problem with people expressing their views, even ones which I find repelent, or that are ill thought out or argued. I just can't let them go unchallenged.
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Ha HA. good response but the BNP of which im not a MEMBER but will certainly vote for them in the by elections.
Are GAGGED from the neck upwards. . the media denies them access. So unless you read there own literature. you wont know there views only the SPIN the labour party and press release.
Only yesterday i was made aware whilst visiting the city of Liverpool that there were ROMANIANS. selling the BIG ISSUE.
. Its one step up from BEGGING . i spoke to one lady. who spoke broken English that I CAN.T FIND WORK.
So the skills we need here must be BEGGING in the streets.
. . Remember even FAILED ASYLUM seekers are left to roam our cities. weather they should be deported is a political issue.
Were also told that FAILED asylum seekers are not entitled to benefits. Would this lead to crime to survive????
i dont know your ancestoral background?? you may have the proverbial axe to grind.
But as you may know or not know the poll on this site revealed a MAJORITY in favour of tighter controls
I suspect these ppl have no affiliation to the BNP.
but they arenot weaing blinkers to what is happening
i think friend you speak for the minority on this subject.
But you do have good input regarding our manufacturing capabilities which at the moment is zilch.
Are GAGGED from the neck upwards. . the media denies them access. So unless you read there own literature. you wont know there views only the SPIN the labour party and press release.
Only yesterday i was made aware whilst visiting the city of Liverpool that there were ROMANIANS. selling the BIG ISSUE.
. Its one step up from BEGGING . i spoke to one lady. who spoke broken English that I CAN.T FIND WORK.
So the skills we need here must be BEGGING in the streets.
. . Remember even FAILED ASYLUM seekers are left to roam our cities. weather they should be deported is a political issue.
Were also told that FAILED asylum seekers are not entitled to benefits. Would this lead to crime to survive????
i dont know your ancestoral background?? you may have the proverbial axe to grind.
But as you may know or not know the poll on this site revealed a MAJORITY in favour of tighter controls
I suspect these ppl have no affiliation to the BNP.
but they arenot weaing blinkers to what is happening
i think friend you speak for the minority on this subject.
But you do have good input regarding our manufacturing capabilities which at the moment is zilch.
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interflite: Ha HA. good response but the BNP of which im not a MEMBER but will certainly vote for them in the by elections.
Are GAGGED from the neck upwards. . the media denies them access. So unless you read there own literature. you wont know there views only the SPIN the labour party and press release.
Only yesterday i was made aware whilst visiting the city of Liverpool that there were ROMANIANS. selling the BIG ISSUE.
. Its one step up from BEGGING . i spoke to one lady. who spoke broken English that I CAN.T FIND WORK.
So the skills we need here must be BEGGING in the streets.
. . Remember even FAILED ASYLUM seekers are left to roam our cities. weather they should be deported is a political issue.
Were also told that FAILED asylum seekers are not entitled to benefits. Would this lead to crime to survive????
i dont know your ancestoral background?? you may have the proverbial axe to grind.
But as you may know or not know the poll on this site revealed a MAJORITY in favour of tighter controls
I suspect these ppl have no affiliation to the BNP.
but they arenot weaing blinkers to what is happening
i think friend you speak for the minority on this subject.
Wot about the cleric that was in the papers today they cant deport Him back to jordan cause he maybe tortured, so he may aswell stay here and plan his terrorist atacks
But you do have good input regarding our manufacturing capabilities which at the moment is zilch.
Are GAGGED from the neck upwards. . the media denies them access. So unless you read there own literature. you wont know there views only the SPIN the labour party and press release.
Only yesterday i was made aware whilst visiting the city of Liverpool that there were ROMANIANS. selling the BIG ISSUE.
. Its one step up from BEGGING . i spoke to one lady. who spoke broken English that I CAN.T FIND WORK.
So the skills we need here must be BEGGING in the streets.
. . Remember even FAILED ASYLUM seekers are left to roam our cities. weather they should be deported is a political issue.
Were also told that FAILED asylum seekers are not entitled to benefits. Would this lead to crime to survive????
i dont know your ancestoral background?? you may have the proverbial axe to grind.
But as you may know or not know the poll on this site revealed a MAJORITY in favour of tighter controls
I suspect these ppl have no affiliation to the BNP.
but they arenot weaing blinkers to what is happening
i think friend you speak for the minority on this subject.
Wot about the cleric that was in the papers today they cant deport Him back to jordan cause he maybe tortured, so he may aswell stay here and plan his terrorist atacks
But you do have good input regarding our manufacturing capabilities which at the moment is zilch.
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yes Ernie like me you wont be blinkered into submission.
Do we not see preferencial treatment every day. Whereby the indigenous population are put on the back burner.
As migrants are given priority over ppl who are waiting for accomodation only to see these ppl repeatily jump th queue.
If these so called skills we need were taken up we would.nt be traveling abroad for dental treatment.
We would be on a waiting list for hospital treatment thru staff shortages.
The labour party SPIN is now being seen as total propoganda
. Im not annoyd with the Migrants coming here in as much as OUR own Goverment advertising in E U countries for migrant workers.
to come here.
The only migrants to ever make any contribution to this country were the Irish..
Most of this country was built on IRISH labor.
Roads tunnels canals
Yes the Blinkers or off.
Do we not see preferencial treatment every day. Whereby the indigenous population are put on the back burner.
As migrants are given priority over ppl who are waiting for accomodation only to see these ppl repeatily jump th queue.
If these so called skills we need were taken up we would.nt be traveling abroad for dental treatment.
We would be on a waiting list for hospital treatment thru staff shortages.
The labour party SPIN is now being seen as total propoganda
. Im not annoyd with the Migrants coming here in as much as OUR own Goverment advertising in E U countries for migrant workers.
to come here.
The only migrants to ever make any contribution to this country were the Irish..
Most of this country was built on IRISH labor.
Roads tunnels canals
Yes the Blinkers or off.
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interflite: yes Ernie like me you wont be blinkered into submission.
Do we not see preferencial treatment every day. Whereby the indigenous population are put on the back burner.
As migrants are given priority over ppl who are waiting for accomodation only to see these ppl repeatily jump th queue.
If these so called skills we need were taken up we would.nt be traveling abroad for dental treatment.
We would be on a waiting list for hospital treatment thru staff shortages.
The labour party SPIN is now being seen as total propoganda
. Im not annoyd with the Migrants coming here in as much as OUR own Goverment advertising in E U countries for migrant workers.
to come here.
The only migrants to ever make any contribution to this country were the Irish..
Most of this country was built on IRISH labor.
Roads tunnels canals
Yes the Blinkers or off.
Do we not see preferencial treatment every day. Whereby the indigenous population are put on the back burner.
As migrants are given priority over ppl who are waiting for accomodation only to see these ppl repeatily jump th queue.
If these so called skills we need were taken up we would.nt be traveling abroad for dental treatment.
We would be on a waiting list for hospital treatment thru staff shortages.
The labour party SPIN is now being seen as total propoganda
. Im not annoyd with the Migrants coming here in as much as OUR own Goverment advertising in E U countries for migrant workers.
to come here.
The only migrants to ever make any contribution to this country were the Irish..
Most of this country was built on IRISH labor.
Roads tunnels canals
Yes the Blinkers or off.
Your very welcome weathered lets keep the thread alive
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yes hello Ernie No i think some of the misinformed conceptions that come on this thread will no doubt keep the thread alive.
One of the quintessential ingredients is to maintain a healthy manufacturing base.
Which sadly we dont have. the THATCHER years werev the cause of this. . Then she told us that the service industries would keep this country afloat. We became a Casino economy.
We associated ourselves with the american economy wheeling and dealing in financial institutions And today we see our involvment with the USA has now awakened us up to the fact that were on a knife edge.
Now were told to tighten our belts. expect austere times. The party is over as we all struggl;e to pay for a woman who has taken us to the brink of obscurity.
Can we get back on course ?? cAN WE BECOME ONE OF THE MAJOR PLAYERS AGAIN IN mANUFACTURING?? can we
Can we
One of the quintessential ingredients is to maintain a healthy manufacturing base.
Which sadly we dont have. the THATCHER years werev the cause of this. . Then she told us that the service industries would keep this country afloat. We became a Casino economy.
We associated ourselves with the american economy wheeling and dealing in financial institutions And today we see our involvment with the USA has now awakened us up to the fact that were on a knife edge.
Now were told to tighten our belts. expect austere times. The party is over as we all struggl;e to pay for a woman who has taken us to the brink of obscurity.
Can we get back on course ?? cAN WE BECOME ONE OF THE MAJOR PLAYERS AGAIN IN mANUFACTURING?? can we
Can we
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Why dose it seem that only older people like us that are true to our history and the young one`s aren`t bothered but this must change because once our culture`s gone there will be no comming back it will be for ever , the other day on the radio some children were asked who Churchill was and none of them knew some said he was the dog on the telly , this is our history and our children should be told it , and in a hundred years time team will be digging around for our history .
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I believe that people percieve the majority of blacks, afghans, eastern european etc in a negative sterotype for coming here and sponging of the system and taking money away from hospitals, causing social troubles.
I admit that there are some that sponge of the system, that I am not content about but many white people sponge off the system as well as, which again I am not content with.
However I believe that there are many hardworking immigrants who pay taxes and keep to social order, support british politics. Those people I'll happily call Britsh as we have been multi cultural since we became an island. For example we had many french, saxons, celts, norse and many others call this their home.
I hope I have given you a balanced view.