Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man..... ( Archived) (48)

Mar 8, 2008 2:08 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
The Wise Man believes profoundly in silence - the sign of a perfect equilibrium. Silence is the absolute poise or balance of body, mind and spirit. The man who preserves his selfhood ever calm and unshaken by the storms of existence - not a leaf, as it were, astire on the tree, not a ripple upon the surface of the shinning pool - his, in the mind of the unlettered sage, is the ideal attitude and conduct of life. Silence is the cornerstone of character.

-Ohiyesa (Charles Alexander Eastman) - Wahpeton Santee Sioux-



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Mar 8, 2008 2:14 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Respect means listening until everyone has been heard and understood, only then is there a possibility of "Balance and Harmony" the goal of Indian Spirituality."

-Dave Chief, Grandfather of Red Dog-


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Mar 8, 2008 2:19 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
roseofsharon
roseofsharonroseofsharonmanchester, Hampshire, England UK60 Threads 3 Polls 8,699 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Cheif Dan George has always been one of my fav men too...He was always very wise and inspirational in his speaking...Kewwwwwwwllllllll I didn't know you lived in Canada as a kid...Native people although lost in many ways since assimilation...still only ever aspire to be who they truly are!!!!!!!!!


Yes, I have mentioned it before, Hugz......
(Look, if you're not gonna pay attention, you're not coming to Italy, okay??!!) rolling on the floor laughing

I used to live in the Rockie Mountains, a place called Prince George, just north of Vancouver. I also lived in Vancouver itself.... loved it!! I have very fond memories of my time in Canada and would just love to return one day...!!
yay

Fancy a top-up?? drink pouring
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Mar 8, 2008 2:22 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
roseofsharon: Yes, I have mentioned it before, Hugz......
(Look, if you're not gonna pay attention, you're not coming to Italy, okay??!!)

I used to live in the Rockie Mountains, a place called Prince George, just north of Vancouver. I also lived in Vancouver itself.... loved it!! I have very fond memories of my time in Canada and would just love to return one day...!!


Fancy a top-up??


Hey I have short-term memory loss...what can I say...they don't call me "Dorie" for nothing...roll eyes

The one place I have never been is Vancouver but I would like to visit it someday I hear it's beautiful...You are welcome to come and visit me in the Great White North anytime you wish g/f...Although I wouldn't come today...It's storming again and we are suppose to have 40 cm of snow by the time it's done!!!!!!!!!

roll eyes hug teddybear grin
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Mar 8, 2008 2:32 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
The earth was created by the assistance of the sun, and it should be left as it was. . . . The Country was made without lines of demarcation, and it is no mans business to divide it. . . . I see the white all over the country gaining wealth and see their desire to give us lands which are worthless. . . .The earth and my self are of one mind. The measure of land and the measure of our bodies are the same. Say it us if you can say it, that you were sent by Creative Power to talk to us. Perhaps you think the creator sent you here to destroy us as you see fit. If I thought you were sent by the creator I might be I might be induced to think you had a right to dispose of me. Do not misunderstand me, but understand me fully with reference to my affection to the land. I never said the land was mine do do with as I chose. The one who has a right to dispose of it is the one who has created it. I claim a right to live on my land, and accord you the privilage to live on yours.

-Heinmot Tooyalaket (Chief Joseph), Nez Perce-


wine
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Mar 8, 2008 2:37 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Pure24kman
Pure24kmanPure24kmanpittsburg, California USA9 Threads 29 Posts
i wish many more people would be Enlighten with wisdom from the wise......
old Indian man spending many days with the piece pipe....drinking
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Mar 8, 2008 2:39 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Pure24kman: i wish many more people would be Enlighten with wisdom from the wise......
old Indian man spending many days with the piece pipe....


That would be nice because they don't call it wisdom for nothing...wine
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Mar 8, 2008 2:43 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
"We live, we die, and like the grass and trees, renew ourselves from the soft clods of the grave. Stones crumble and decay, faiths grow old and they are forgotten but new beliefs are born. The faith of the villages is dust now...but it will grow again....like the trees. May serenity circle on silent wings and catch the whisper of the winds."

-Chief Joseph of the Nez Perce- "In-mut-too-yah-lat-lat" (Thunder coming up over the land from the water)"-


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Mar 8, 2008 2:47 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
... I have seen that in any great undertaking it is not enough for a man to depend simply upon himself

Lone Man (Isna-la-wica) Teton Sioux



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Mar 8, 2008 2:57 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
We cannot all sit on the same side of the Fire. A Council Fire forms a circle, not a line or a square. When we move to the side, we still sit at the Fire with our Brothers and Sisters, but as we move away from one we move toward another. The circle, like the Dream Hoop, brings us ever back to where we start. Any time words of respect and love are spoken, they will return as given. A harsh word runs forever in the circle, eventually vanishing from the wear against itself. Love settles within the Circle, embracing it and thereby lasting forever, turning within itself. The Medicine Wheel is the circle of life (sometimes referred to as the Scared Hoop) Starting with birth and continuing through out our lifes until death, when we have gone full circle. The Medicine wheel has four Direction, each direction offering it's own lessons, color, and animal guide. There are to paths shown which cross in the center, at which point for me is the heart. (for when you work from your heart, you can reach all directions.) The path from East to West is the path of spirits, (the Blue Road) the path from South to North is our physical Walk (the Red Road ).

East - beginnings, purity, family, innocence, amazement of Life
South - youth - passions of life, friendships, self-control
West - Adulthood - solitude, stillness, going inside oneself, reflection
North - Place of the Ancient Ones who have gone over - place of wisdom
Above - Freedom of mind, body, spirit below - Nuturing, Mother, life

- Luther Standing Bear, Oglala Sioux 1868-1937-



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Mar 8, 2008 3:01 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
As a child I understood how to give, I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized.

-Luther Standing Bear, Oglala-



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Mar 8, 2008 3:08 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
"We also have a religion which was given to our forefathers, and has been handed down to us their children. It teaches us to be thankful, to be united, and to love one another! We never quarrel about religion."

-Sogoyewapha, (Red Jacket), Seneca 1752-1830-



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Mar 8, 2008 3:12 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Pure24kman
Pure24kmanPure24kmanpittsburg, California USA9 Threads 29 Posts
A french philosopher Valtaire ( Francois Marie Arouet 1694-1778 ) one of many great philosophers.
once a man said to Valtaire " life is hard " Valtaire replied compare to what?
there are/were many great philosophers throughout history..... everyone should take the time to read a little to gain some wisdom that has been past on by the wise......professor


' if you win silver , you loose gold !!! "
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Mar 8, 2008 3:12 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
"Will you teach your children what we have taught our children? That the earth is our mother? What befalls the earth befalls all the sons of the earth. "This we know: the earth does not belong to man, man belongs to the earth. All things are connected like the blood that unites us all. Man did not weave the web of life, he is merely a strand in it. Whatever he does to the web, he does to himself. "One thing we know: our god is also your god. The earth is precious to him and to harm the earth is to heap contempt on its creator."

-Chief Seattle-



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Mar 8, 2008 3:13 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Pure24kman: A french philosopher Valtaire ( Francois Marie Arouet 1694-1778 ) one of many great philosophers.
once a man said to Valtaire " life is hard " Valtaire replied compare to what?
there are/were many great philosophers throughout history..... everyone should take the time to read a little to gain some wisdom that has been past on by the wise...... ' if you win silver , you loose gold !!! "



I agree...after all...there is much to be had in wisdom should we choose to utilize it!!!!!!!!


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Mar 8, 2008 3:29 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
It matters little where we pass the remnant of our days. They will not be many. The Indian's night promises to be dark. Not a single star of hope hovers above his horizon. Sad-voiced winds moan in the distance. Grim fate seems to be on the Red Man's trail, and wherever he will hear the approaching footsteps of his fell destroyer and prepare stolidly to meet his doom, as does the wounded doe that hears the approaching footsteps of the hunter. A few more moons, a few more winters, and not one of the descendants of the mighty hosts that once moved over this broad land or lived in happy homes, protected by the Great Spirit, will remain to mourn over the graves of a people once more powerful and hopeful than yours. But why should I mourn at the untimely fate of my people? Tribe follows tribe, and nation follows nation, like the waves of the sea. It is the order of nature, and regret is useless. Your time of decay may be distant, but it will surely come, for even the White Man whose God walked and talked with him as friend to friend, cannot be exempt from the common destiny. We may be brothers after all. We will see.

-Chief Seattle-


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Mar 8, 2008 3:39 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
"Is it wrong for me to love my own? Is it wicked for me because my skin is red? Because I am Sioux? Because I was born where my father lived? Because I would die for my people and my country? God made me an Indian."

Chief Sitting Bull


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Mar 8, 2008 3:51 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
"The Spirits Warn You Twice,

The Third Time You Stand Alone"


-Unknown-


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Mar 8, 2008 3:58 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Oh, the comfort, the inexpressible comfort of feeling safe with a person, having neither to weigh thought nor measure words, but pouring them all right out, just as they are, chaff and grain together, certain that a faithful hand will take and sift them, keep what is worth keeping, and with a breath of kindness, blow the rest away.

-Anon - Shoshone-



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Mar 8, 2008 3:59 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Tumpa
TumpaTumpaottawa, Ontario Canada88 Threads 7,091 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: "The Spirits Warn You Twice,

The Third Time You Stand Alone" -Unknown-


I smudge every once in a blue moon.

No one stands alone for any moment in time.
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