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Mar 7, 2008 8:01 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Fourth Philosophy - TO THE COMMUNITY

The Indian community provides many things for the family. The most important is the sense of belonging; that is, to belong to "the people", and to have a place to go. Our Indian communities need to be restored to health so the future generation will be guaranteed a place to go for culture, language and Indian socializing. In he community, the honor of one is the honor of all and the pain of one is the pain of all. I will work to strengthen recovery in all parts of my community.
As an Indian man,
I will give back to my community by donating my time and talents when I am able.
I will cultivate friendships with other Indian men for mutual support and strength.
I will consider the effects of our decisions on behalf of the next seven generations; in this way, our children and grandchildren will inherit healthy communities.
I will care about those in my community so that the mind changes, alcohol and drugs, will vanish, and our communities will forever be free of violence.
If each of us can do all these things, then others, will follow; ours will be a proud community.


Fifth Philosophy - THE EARTH

Our Mother Earth is the source of all life, whether it be plants, the two-legged, four-legged, winged ones or human beings. The Mother Earth is the greatest teacher, if we listen, observe and respect her. When we live in harmony with the Mother Earth, she will recycle the things we consume and make them available to our children. As an Indian man, I must teach my children how to care for the Earth so it is there for the future generations.
So from now on,
I realize the Earth is our Mother. I will treat her with honor and respect.
I will honor the interconnectedness of all things and all forms of life.
I will realize the Earth does not belong to us, but that we belong to the Earth.
The natural law is the ultimate authority upon the lands and water. I will learn the knowledge and wisdom of the natural laws. I will pass this knowledge on to my children.
The Mother Earth is a living entity that maintains life. I will speak out in a good way whenever I see someone abusing the Earth. Just as I would protect my own mother, so I will protect the Earth. I will ensure that the land, water, and air will be intact for my children and for my children's children-the unborn.


Sixth Philosophy - TO THE CREATOR

As an Indian man, I realize we make no gains without the Great Spirit being in our lives. Neither I, nor anything I attempt to do, will work without our Creator. Being Indian and being spiritual has the same meaning. Spirituality is our gift from the Great One. This say, I vow to walk the Red Road.
As an Indian man,
I will return to the traditional and spiritual values which have guided my ancestors for the past generations.
I will look with new eyes on the powers of our ceremonies and religious ways, for they are important to the very survival of our people.
We have survived and are going to grow and flourish spiritually. We will fulfill our teachings and the purpose that the Creator has given us with dignity.
Each day, I will pray and ask guidance. I will commit to walk the Red Road, or whatever the spiritual way is called in my own culture.
If I am a Christian, I will be a good one. If I tradition, I will walk this road with dedication.
If each of us can do these things then others will follow. From this day forward, I will reserve time and energy for spirituality, seeking to know the Creator's will.


(Cont'd)....wine
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Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Seventh Philosophy - TO MYSELF

I will think about what kind of person I want to be when I am an Elder. I will start developing myself now to be this person.
I will walk with the Great Spirit and the grandfathers at my side. I will develop myself to remain positive. I will develop a good mind.
I will examine myself daily to see what I did good and what I need to improve. I will examine my strengths and weaknesses; then I will ask the Creator to guide me. I will develop a good mind.
Each day, I will listen for the Creator's voice in the wind. I will watch nature and ask to be shown a lesson which will occur on my path.
I will seek our the guiding principles which guided my ancestors. I will walk in dignity, honor and humility, conducting myself as a warrior.
I will seek the guidance of the Elders so that I may maintain the knowledge of culture, ceremonies and songs, and so that I may pass these on to future generations.
I choose to do all these things myself, because no one else can do them for me.
I know I CANNOT GIVE AWAY WHAT I DON'T HAVE, so I will need to learn to walk the talk.




wine
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Mar 7, 2008 8:25 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
“Upon suffering beyond suffering: the Red Nation shall rise again and it shall be a blessing for a sick world. A world filled with broken promises, selfishness and separations. A world longing for light again. I see a time of Seven Generations when all the colors of mankind will gather under the Sacred Tree of Life and the whole Earth will become one circle again. In that day, there will be those among the Lakota who will carry knowledge and understanding of unity among all living things and the young white ones will come to those of my people and ask for this wisdom. I salute the light within your eyes where the whole Universe dwells. For when you are at that center within you and I am that place within me, we shall be one."

- Crazy Horse, Oglala Sioux Chief (This statement was taken from Crazy Horse as he sat smoking the Sacred Pipe with Sitting Bull for the last time, four days before he was assassinated.)-



wine
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Mar 7, 2008 8:50 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Before our white brothers arrived to make us civilized men,
we didn't have any kind of prison. Because of this, we had no delinquents.

Without a prison, there can be no delinquents.
We had no locks nor keys and therefore among us there were no thieves.

When someone was so poor that he couldn't afford a horse, a tent or a blanket, he would, in that case, receive it all as a gift.

We were too uncivilized to give great importance to private property.
We didn't know any kind of money and consequently, the value of a human being was not determined by his wealth.

We had no written laws laid down, no lawyers, no politicians,
therefore we were not able to cheat and swindle one another.

We were really in bad shape before the white men arrived and I don't know how to explain how we were able to manage without these fundamental things that (so they tell us) are so necessary for a civilized society.

John (Fire) Lame Deer
Sioux Lakota - 1903-1976


wine
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Mar 7, 2008 9:38 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
All men were made brothers.
The earth is the mother of all people,
and all people should have equal rights upon it.

You might as well expect the rivers
to run backward
as that any man who was born free
should be contented
when penned up
and denied liberty to go
where he pleases.

It does not require many words
to speak the truth.

Chief Joseph (1840-1904)
Nez Pierce


wine
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Mar 7, 2008 9:48 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Certain things catch your eye, But pursue only those that capture your heart.
~ An old indian saying~


Give thanks for unknown blessings already on their way.
~ Native American saying~


Lose your temper and you lose a friend; lie and you lose yourself.
~Hopi~


wine
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Mar 7, 2008 9:59 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Our fathers gave us many laws which they had learned from their fathers. They told us to treat all men as they treated us. That we should never be the first to break a bargain. That it was a disgrace to tell a lie. That we should speak only the truth. We were taught to believe that the Great Spirit sees and hears everything and that he never forgets. This I believe and all my people believe the same.

-Thunder Rolling in the Mountains-Chief Joseph, Nez Perce-



wine
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Mar 7, 2008 10:01 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
kitty01
kitty01kitty01St. Albert, Alberta Canada244 Threads 1 Polls 5,310 Posts
Would it be nice if we all lived that way.wave
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Mar 7, 2008 10:07 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
kitty01: Would it be nice if we all lived that way.


Yeah it would...at least if we had those values and respect for people and nature...wave hug teddybear

Look at the faces of my people.
You will find expressions of love and despair,
hope and joy, sadness and desire, and all the
human feelings that live in the hearts of people
of all colours. Yet, the heart never knows the
colour of the skin.


-Chief Dan George -


wine
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Mar 7, 2008 10:12 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Peace is not only the opposite of war
It is not only the time in between wars....
Peace is more.

It is the Law of life.

It is when we conduct ourselves righteously
And between every single being justice reigns.


-Iroquois saying -


wine
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Mar 7, 2008 10:17 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Wolf Credo...

Hunt when you must, Rest in between. Share your Affection, Voice your Feelings, Respect the Elders, Teach the Young, Cooperate with the Pack. Play when you can, and Leave your Mark....

-Anonymous -


wine
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Mar 7, 2008 10:20 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Beauty and ugliness are everywhere - even in some of the same things. To some a wide open prairie is empty and colorless - but to others it is uncluttered simplicity - the way life itself ought to look. Physical appeal is high on some lists, but nu tso se dv na, which is cherokee comfort, lasts longer. Whatever is in our hearts is in our sight. To love something or someone makes us see the beauty of it - not the wrong. It is to our advantage to be gentle in our observations - to see and cultivate the best in who we are and in those around us. We love quiet; we suffer the mouse to play; when the woods are rustled by the wind, we fear not.

-Indian Chief 1796-



wine
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Mar 8, 2008 4:12 AM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
roseofsharon
roseofsharonroseofsharonmanchester, Hampshire, England UK60 Threads 3 Polls 8,699 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Yeah it would...at least if we had those values and respect for people and nature...

Look at the faces of my people.
You will find expressions of love and despair,
hope and joy, sadness and desire, and all the
human feelings that live in the hearts of people
of all colours. Yet, the heart never knows the
colour of the skin. -Chief Dan George -


When I lived in Canada as a child, Hugz, my parents had friends who were Native Americans and I would go to school with Native American children.

I have never been more fortunate to know such lovely - AND loving - people. I have always had the utmost respect, and I am saddened by their plight in recent times....

And, I just loved Chief Dan George..... RIP angel

Thanks for this...!! thumbs up

teddybear
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Mar 8, 2008 5:37 AM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
TheEnglishman
TheEnglishmanTheEnglishmanNewport, Shropshire, England UK7 Threads 520 Posts
"You cannot have a civilised society if you subjugate your people

Chief Sitting Bull

The most intelligent words I have ever heard from a leader of people.

The Indian Nations offered us everything and we destroyed it.
We destroyed their values,,their homes and their wisom.
Even today the American whites continue to harras and steal from the Indians 132 years after the Little Big Horn.

No Indian has sat in congress or the senate,,(McKenzie was not proved to be of Indian decent)
Yet the American politicions talked about giving South Africa back to the indiginous population.

It is the one true shame of white and worse "black" America.
The blacks in their struggle for racial equality never included the Indian.

The Indian people are treated appallingly,,because they won't join the white mans "club" and be like them.
Their reservations are under funded,,There's little to no work and if a job comes up,,there's little chance of getting it,,because they are Indian.
The Indian people caused me sadness but strangely enough,,they do not inspire PITY,,it is the greatness of a proud people.
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Mar 8, 2008 5:44 AM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
bajanblue
bajanbluebajanblueSpeightstown, Saint Peter Barbados344 Threads 1 Polls 3,724 Posts
Hugz, thank you. I have read some of these before but never all in one place.

If we can find and embrace this spirit there may be a future.
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Mar 8, 2008 9:18 AM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Aries01
Aries01Aries01Kent, England UK47 Threads 4 Polls 2,732 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Before our white brothers arrived to make us civilized men,
we didn't have any kind of prison. Because of this, we had no delinquents.

Without a prison, there can be no delinquents.
We had no locks nor keys and therefore among us there were no thieves.

When someone was so poor that he couldn't afford a horse, a tent or a blanket, he would, in that case, receive it all as a gift.

We were too uncivilized to give great importance to private property.
We didn't know any kind of money and consequently, the value of a human being was not determined by his wealth.

We had no written laws laid down, no lawyers, no politicians,
therefore we were not able to cheat and swindle one another.

We were really in bad shape before the white men arrived and I don't know how to explain how we were able to manage without these fundamental things that (so they tell us) are so necessary for a civilized society.

John (Fire) Lame Deer
Sioux Lakota - 1903-1976
thumbs up thumbs up

The answer lies in simplicity
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Mar 8, 2008 1:54 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
TheEnglishman: "You cannot have a civilised society if you subjugate your people

Chief Sitting Bull

The most intelligent words I have ever heard from a leader of people.

The Indian Nations offered us everything and we destroyed it.
We destroyed their values,,their homes and their wisom.
Even today the American whites continue to harras and steal from the Indians 132 years after the Little Big Horn.

No Indian has sat in congress or the senate,,(McKenzie was not proved to be of Indian decent)
Yet the American politicions talked about giving South Africa back to the indiginous population.

It is the one true shame of white and worse "black" America.
The blacks in their struggle for racial equality never included the Indian.

The Indian people are treated appallingly,,because they won't join the white mans "club" and be like them.
Their reservations are under funded,,There's little to no work and if a job comes up,,there's little chance of getting it,,because they are Indian.
The Indian people caused me sadness but strangely enough,,they do not inspire PITY,,it is the greatness of a proud people.


OMG!!!!!!!! Longtime no see...I agree and there is a regeneration going on in some fashion of each Native community of getting back to the traditional values...The one thing that Native people have never lost is their pride in who they are as a people...That can never be taken away!!!!!!!!!!

Welcome back by the way!!!!!!!!!!

wave hug teddybear
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Mar 8, 2008 1:57 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
bajanblue: Hugz, thank you. I have read some of these before but never all in one place.

If we can find and embrace this spirit there may be a future.


I agree bajan and aries...spirit and the importance of living things before non-living is the answer...when those things become important again and made a priority we all might stand a fighting chance!!!!!

hug teddybear hug bouquet
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Mar 8, 2008 2:00 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
roseofsharon: When I lived in Canada as a child, Hugz, my parents had friends who were Native Americans and I would go to school with Native American children.

I have never been more fortunate to know such lovely - AND loving - people. I have always had the utmost respect, and I am saddened by their plight in recent times....

And, I just loved Chief Dan George..... RIP

Thanks for this...!!


Cheif Dan George has always been one of my fav men too...He was always very wise and inspirational in his speaking...Kewwwwwwwllllllll I didn't know you lived in Canada as a kid...Native people although lost in many ways since assimilation...still only ever aspire to be who they truly are!!!!!!!!!

hug teddybear hug
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Mar 8, 2008 2:05 PM CST Seven Philosophies For a Native American Man.....
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
You have noticed that everything as Indian does is in a circle, and that is because the Power of the World always works in circles, and everything tries to be round..... The Sky is round, and I have heard that the earth is round like a ball, and so are all the stars. The wind, in its greatest power, whirls. Birds make their nest in circles, for theirs is the same religion as ours... Even the seasons form a great circle in their changing, and always come back again to where they were. The life of a man is a circle from childhood to childhood, and so it is in everything where power moves.

-Black Elk, Oglala-



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