American Envoy Is Linked to Arms Deal Cover-Up (13)
Well wasnt Saddams arms all from U.S.?????Killing your boys right now??
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Nothing new. Tons of this garbage has been moving from country to country, warehouse to warehouse for years. No one in Europe is touching it at any price. A lot of it was in a bad state then Some have said the ammo is about 30 years old...I would never touch any ammo or weapons from China; a lot of it are duds; not enough gunpowder or none at all. Weapons are corroded on working parts especially in the barrels...most could explode if loaded up and fired as is and from the many I've seen, they're just garbage, good for nothing but play toys or to send to Mugabe for his armed forces...free of charge even!
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Land mines too give em away to the poorest souls to play with???
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I am just currious...
Shouldn't the buyers of Arms for the Pentagon, be familiar with those to whom they do business with? I mean, they should have a reliable source, especially when outfitting ammo for the largest supply contract. I mean, one would think so.
They are aware of this dud supply. How do they get fooled into falsly packaged and misrepresented ammo? Perhaps they just don't care if the ammo is good or not?
Business as usual.
Duds are dangerous! I had one blow up in my face once and blind me!
I wonder how many people knew and participated in this deception?
Shouldn't the buyers of Arms for the Pentagon, be familiar with those to whom they do business with? I mean, they should have a reliable source, especially when outfitting ammo for the largest supply contract. I mean, one would think so.
They are aware of this dud supply. How do they get fooled into falsly packaged and misrepresented ammo? Perhaps they just don't care if the ammo is good or not?
Business as usual.
Duds are dangerous! I had one blow up in my face once and blind me!
I wonder how many people knew and participated in this deception?
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The direct buyers/ purchasers from the Pentagon offices of the procurement of weapons know exactly what they are dealing with; it is not always true of those that are sub-contracted to act as third parties to deals that the Pentagon does not wish to be publicly associated with that problems develop. Albania is notorious for everything 'bad' in any arms dealings. They had only one supplier for over 30 years: Communist China for all the crap that they, the Chinese did not want or need; no one in Europe wanted or needed their inferior products, when the Russians, the Poles, the Serbs had good product up for sale and huge discounts were always available for bulk purchases...
Re-packaged ammo, re-fitted automatic rifles from parts that were from different models, etc. are always being pushed and most dealers and brokers know this and know who is pushing; who is taking kickbacks ; who is re-packaging defective parts, ammo etc. but most of all everyone knows who has good product and who takes good care of it and not letting it rot in dark, damp and dank conditions, only to be cleaned up by a crash clean-up of only surface items per case or newly printed packaging and freshly painted stencils on crates... and forged papers of end user purchases. Look back at all the arm deal scandals in the 60's between the Pentagon and Italy that started over the Pentagon paying the Italians to buy US tanks for less than it costs to make them with all the profits going to the Pentagon Generals in the procurement dept. It has only gotten worse and bigger since then, with one big problem, most countries do not want US arms; they are regarded as junk...Russian manufacturing is much better and the choices are better, as with Germany, France ans even Sweden...pricey but highly sought after...
Re-packaged ammo, re-fitted automatic rifles from parts that were from different models, etc. are always being pushed and most dealers and brokers know this and know who is pushing; who is taking kickbacks ; who is re-packaging defective parts, ammo etc. but most of all everyone knows who has good product and who takes good care of it and not letting it rot in dark, damp and dank conditions, only to be cleaned up by a crash clean-up of only surface items per case or newly printed packaging and freshly painted stencils on crates... and forged papers of end user purchases. Look back at all the arm deal scandals in the 60's between the Pentagon and Italy that started over the Pentagon paying the Italians to buy US tanks for less than it costs to make them with all the profits going to the Pentagon Generals in the procurement dept. It has only gotten worse and bigger since then, with one big problem, most countries do not want US arms; they are regarded as junk...Russian manufacturing is much better and the choices are better, as with Germany, France ans even Sweden...pricey but highly sought after...
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cutypie: Well wasnt Saddams arms all from U.S.?????Killing your boys right now??
Bad Research!!!
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cutypie: Land mines too give em away to the poorest souls to play with???
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Sorry dont research too much..All I do know that Sadam and U.S. were once friends?
Arms kill and be sure to be sure most of the 3rd world would rather have food than arms.OKAY
Arms kill and be sure to be sure most of the 3rd world would rather have food than arms.OKAY
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So prey tell what do you deal in ???Conrad
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cutypie: So prey tell what do you deal in ???Conrad
LIFE!!
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Great Happy chappy in Switzerland.....
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So please give me your in depth research to the subject? As healthy has done.You appear to Know ? would be enlightening for all.
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By ERIC SCHMITT | WASHINGTON — An American ambassador helped cover up the illegal Chinese origins of ammunition that a Pentagon contractor bought to supply Afghan security forces, according to testimony gathered by Congressional investigators.
A military attaché has told the investigators that the United States ambassador to Albania endorsed a plan by the Albanian defense minister to hide several boxes of Chinese ammunition from a visiting reporter. The ammunition was being repackaged to disguise its origins and shipped from Albania to Afghanistan by a Miami Beach arms-dealing company.
The ambassador, John L. Withers II, met with the defense minister, Fatmir Mediu, hours before a reporter for The New York Times was to visit the American contractor’s operations in Tirana, the Albanian capital, according to the testimony. The company, under an Army contract, bought the ammunition to supply Afghan security forces although American law prohibits trading in Chinese arms.
The attaché, Maj. Larry D. Harrison II of the Army, was one of the aides attending the late-night meeting, on Nov. 19, 2007. He told House investigators that Mr. Mediu asked Ambassador Withers for help, saying he was concerned that the reporter would reveal that he had been accused of profiting from selling arms. The minister said that because he had gone out of his way to help the United States, a close ally, “the U.S. owed him something,” according to Major Harrison.
Mr. Mediu ordered the commanding general of Albania’s armed forces to remove all boxes of Chinese ammunition from a site the reporter was to visit, and “the ambassador agreed that this would alleviate the suspicion of wrongdoing,” Major Harrison said, according to his testimony.
Investigators interviewed Major Harrison by telephone on June 9, and the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee made excerpts of the transcript public on Monday.
At the time of the meeting, the company, AEY Inc., was under investigation for illegal arms trafficking involving Chinese ammunition.
On Friday, the president of the company, Efraim E. Diveroli, 22, and three others were charged with selling prohibited Chinese ammunition to the Pentagon that they said was made in Albania.
On March 27, The New York Times published an article that said Albanian documents showed that the Miami company had bought more than 100 million Chinese cartridges that were stored for decades in former cold war stockpiles.
Mr. Diveroli arranged to have them repacked in cardboard boxes, many of which split or decomposed after shipment to the war zones, according to the article. Different lots or types of ammunition were mixed. In some cases the ammunition was dirty, corroded or covered with a film.
The repackaging operation, carried out by an AEY subcontractor at the Rinas Airport in Tirana, has become the focus of the Congressional investigation.
To me, it looks as if War Profiteering is a Huge Conspiracy!
What really troubles me about this, is not so much that they violated the U.S. law which prohibits buying Chinese ammunition, but that the ammunition being sold, was old, corroded and probably no good... and that our lovely Pentagon paid lots of money for it! Everyone is out to make a buck, and deception is abundant! HL