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FlowerOfTheSun: Most of the ways that Humans have for ... defining the unit of morality are similar in their intention BUT they differ in their detail.
Unit of morality = The measure by which something is deemed moral or not - good V evil -
Until there is a universal definition/measure, humans/nations will continue to justify their own actions while condemning the actions of others ... Since there are so many different people from so many different nations/states in the forums ...
I had this wild idea that we could attempt to put together "a unit of morality" that would work and could be used worldwide ...
Humorous contributions allowed? Yeah!!! You bet!!
Political and religious ones allowed? Nah!!!! We have enough of those on the other threads!!!
All contributions to have a humanitarian slant to them!!!
Unit of morality = The measure by which something is deemed moral or not - good V evil -
Until there is a universal definition/measure, humans/nations will continue to justify their own actions while condemning the actions of others ... Since there are so many different people from so many different nations/states in the forums ...
I had this wild idea that we could attempt to put together "a unit of morality" that would work and could be used worldwide ...
Humorous contributions allowed? Yeah!!! You bet!!
Political and religious ones allowed? Nah!!!! We have enough of those on the other threads!!!
All contributions to have a humanitarian slant to them!!!
Well for me morality is a personal thing and choice...the morals I have may not be someone elses....and some are universal like murder etc...albeit maybe not in some cultures...I don't force my morals on anyone and I don't expect society to be based on them....I am an individual and I am responsible for my own morality...now I may not agree with the moral choices of some...but that's their choice and their responsibility...not mine!!!!
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Hugz_n_Kissez: Well for me morality is a personal thing and choice...the morals I have may not be someone elses....and some are universal like murder etc...albeit maybe not in some cultures...I don't force my morals on anyone and I don't expect society to be based on them....I am an individual and I am responsible for my own morality...now I may not agree with the moral choices of some...but that's their choice and their responsibility...not mine!!!!
I understand what you are saying
Do you think it would hekp the world if all nations had the same measure for what constitutes good or evil?
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FlowerOfTheSun: I understand what you are saying
Do you think it would hekp the world if all nations had the same measure for what constitutes good or evil?
Do you think it would hekp the world if all nations had the same measure for what constitutes good or evil?
No because...individuals will still have the right to choose their own morals...regardless of what might be put in place...so I don't think it would make a difference....
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It's difficult to come to an aggreement about morality and good vs. evil. Everyone has their own personal definitions and such, which change over time and mutate or progress into something new. Also, history is written by the victor. It is sometimes difficult to discover the other side of the story if no one has written about it. So many groups of people and religions have been destroyed by misunderstanding and changing times. Would you say their demise was a result of evil doings, or ignorince? Can ignorince be an argument for the evil doer having done harm?
Look at the many trials through the years where people have been held accountable for their actions and paid for such actions. Now look at how some people are able to pass responsablility off to someone higher up on the ladder. Even small stuff, like a students bad grades, are being pushed off as the fault and/of bad "doings" of another.
I believe that we are in a time where placing blame on another is acceptable and holding the position as the victum/innocent is a common tone amoung all people.
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tipaly81: It's difficult to come to an aggreement about morality and good vs. evil. Everyone has their own personal definitions and such, which change over time and mutate or progress into something new.
Also, history is written by the victor. It is sometimes difficult to discover the other side of the story if no one has written about it. So many groups of people and religions have been destroyed by misunderstanding and changing times. Would you say their demise was a result of evil doings, or ignorince? Can ignorince be an argument for the evil doer having done harm?
Look at the many trials through the years where people have been held accountable for their actions and paid for such actions. Now look at how some people are able to pass responsablility off to someone higher up on the ladder. Even small stuff, like a students bad grades, are being pushed off as the fault and/of bad "doings" of another.
I believe that we are in a time where placing blame on another is acceptable and holding the position as the victum/innocent is a common tone amoung all people.
Also, history is written by the victor. It is sometimes difficult to discover the other side of the story if no one has written about it. So many groups of people and religions have been destroyed by misunderstanding and changing times. Would you say their demise was a result of evil doings, or ignorince? Can ignorince be an argument for the evil doer having done harm?
Look at the many trials through the years where people have been held accountable for their actions and paid for such actions. Now look at how some people are able to pass responsablility off to someone higher up on the ladder. Even small stuff, like a students bad grades, are being pushed off as the fault and/of bad "doings" of another.
I believe that we are in a time where placing blame on another is acceptable and holding the position as the victum/innocent is a common tone amoung all people.
That is precisely what this thread is about. Pointing the finger and no one being accountable for anything. Going from the smallest of things between humans of same street, town nation, to the hugest one in between nations.
Isn't time it changed?
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FlowerOfTheSun: I understand what you are saying
Do you think it would hekp the world if all nations had the same measure for what constitutes good or evil?
Do you think it would hekp the world if all nations had the same measure for what constitutes good or evil?
Just had a thought. Something that occured to me. Good and evil reside in all of us. We chose which paths we would follow. Sometimes we pick a little from each side. But where would the line be drawn in the sand. How far to the left or right would be too far? Aside form the extremes, what would be truely evil/good?
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Hugz_n_Kissez: No because...individuals will still have the right to choose their own morals...regardless of what might be put in place...so I don't think it would make a difference....
Yes, individuals will still have the right to choose their own morals ... But what about having a basic that is the same in every nation. What about in the bigger picture ... the world wide picture in between nations?
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tipaly81: Just had a thought. Something that occured to me. Good and evil reside in all of us. We chose which paths we would follow. Sometimes we pick a little from each side. But where would the line be drawn in the sand. How far to the left or right would be too far? Aside form the extremes, what would be truely evil/good?
Exactely!!!!! The line in the sand varied according to individuals, but even more so according to different nations!!!!
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FlowerOfTheSun: That is precisely what this thread is about. Pointing the finger and no one being accountable for anything. Going from the smallest of things between humans of same street, town nation, to the hugest one in between nations.
Isn't time it changed?
Isn't time it changed?
hmm
Change is inevitable, we can not avoid it. What we need to do (speaking of amercans here) is settle down, breath and think about our actions and motives. Think about where we want to truely be in 10,20,30 years and then consider how to make it happen. We need to get connected and talk to one another, as well as listen. Then make a plan and act. inactivity is our enemy; it is what allows "evil" in. If we become lazy and slugish then we allow the bad to seep into our lives.
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FlowerOfTheSun: Exactely!!!!! The line in the sand varied according to individuals, but even more so according to different nations!!!!
Varies, not varied. We still hold certain people upon higher standards or morality then others. Universally this has been mothers, Clergeman/other members of the church, and certain levels of royalty/government. Even though we should look at them as human beings first, we are often pulled into seeing their position in life. Their title, or role that they play.------ This thread is Archived ------
FlowerOfTheSun: Yes, individuals will still have the right to choose their own morals ... But what about having a basic that is the same in every nation. What about in the bigger picture ... the world wide picture in between nations?
That sounds good but you can't make people abide by morality...they will chose for themselves to see it as good or evil....I think the key to not looking at others and condemning them...lies in us all individually as people...to take more responsibility for ourselves and our own actions first...and being more opened minded to others beliefs...now if that was done..then it filters it's way up to the top....but it has to start individually before it can ever become a reality anyplace else.....
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tipaly81: hmm Change is inevitable, we can not avoid it. What we need to do (speaking of amercans here) is settle down, breath and think about our actions and motives. Think about where we want to truely be in 10,20,30 years and then consider how to make it happen. We need to get connected and talk to one another, as well as listen. Then make a plan and act.
inactivity is our enemy; it is what allows "evil" in. If we become lazy and slugish then we allow the bad to seep into our lives.
inactivity is our enemy; it is what allows "evil" in. If we become lazy and slugish then we allow the bad to seep into our lives.
Yeah!!!
trouble is no one had agreed yet on what contitutes bad and what constitutes good!! Although everyone has their own idea about what it could be!!! and this varies even more from nation to nation!
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tipaly81: Varies, not varied. We still hold certain people upon higher standards or morality then others. Universally this has been mothers, Clergeman/other members of the church, and certain levels of royalty/government. Even though we should look at them as human beings first, we are often pulled into seeing their position in life. Their title, or role that they play.
Typo there!! was mean to be "varies"
Should morality be equated to titles and roles? Universally?
The way certain people with certain titles are expected to behave varies greatly from country to country ...
I am talking about the big big picture ...
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Hugz_n_Kissez: That sounds good but you can't make people abide by morality...they will chose for themselves to see it as good or evil....I think the key to not looking at others and condemning them...lies in us all individually as people...to take more responsibility for ourselves and our own actions first...and being more opened minded to others beliefs...now if that was done..then it filters it's way up to the top....but it has to start individually before it can ever become a reality anyplace else.....
I like the way you are thinking!!
But if you take in reverse from the big worldwide picture back to family size lets say ... isn't that like the kids choosing for themselves what constitutes good or bad, then hoping it filters up to the top IE the parents ... Shouldn't it be the other way round?
Shouldn't the example be set by those "that have the responsibility"
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FlowerOfTheSun: Typo there!! was mean to be "varies"
Should morality be equated to titles and roles? Universally?
The way certain people with certain titles are expected to behave varies greatly from country to country ...
I am talking about the big big picture ...
Should morality be equated to titles and roles? Universally?
The way certain people with certain titles are expected to behave varies greatly from country to country ...
I am talking about the big big picture ...
Can't have much of a big picture is there are no examples of good and evil. We had Mother Teresa and Princess Diana, and even the last Pope. They were the becon to the light, but now there are no good doing, selfless people being presented to us and the younger generation, instead we have Paris Hilton
. Oh brother. We have turned into people who view who is good or evil by one's worldly posessions, not they actions. A selfless act of someone close to us is what brings that into perspective. When we have these cheerleads and leaders in play, then the moral compus can be set and me can have a universal standard.
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FlowerOfTheSun: I like the way you are thinking!! But if you take in reverse from the big worldwide picture back to family size lets say ... isn't that like the kids choosing for themselves what constitutes good or bad, then hoping it filters up to the top IE the parents ... Shouldn't it be the other way round?
Shouldn't the example be set by those "that have the responsibility"
Shouldn't the example be set by those "that have the responsibility"
Of course it should...going further back from the individual...it has to start with the families...so in essence from the family forward...I was thinking of implementing something like that today...how something like this could be accomplished with people already entrenched in their beliefs...
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Hugz_n_Kissez: That sounds good but you can't make people abide by morality...they will chose for themselves to see it as good or evil....I think the key to not looking at others and condemning them...lies in us all individually as people...to take more responsibility for ourselves and our own actions first...and being more opened minded to others beliefs...now if that was done..then it filters it's way up to the top....but it has to start individually before it can ever become a reality anyplace else.....
Nicely said. I was going to compose something but it made my head hurt.
Psssst. I've got six blackmarket Units of Morality for sale. Any takers?
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rwantin: Nicely said. I was going to compose something but it made my head hurt.
Psssst. I've got six blackmarket Units of Morality for sale. Any takers?
Psssst. I've got six blackmarket Units of Morality for sale. Any takers?
I'll take 2 of those for a walk on the wild side.....
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rwantin: Nicely said. I was going to compose something but it made my head hurt.
Psssst. I've got six blackmarket Units of Morality for sale. Any takers?
Psssst. I've got six blackmarket Units of Morality for sale. Any takers?
Hahaha!
You wouldn't be looking at making a profit here, now Rwantin!!!!!! ------ This thread is Archived ------
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Unit of morality = The measure by which something is deemed moral or not - good V evil -
Until there is a universal definition/measure, humans/nations will continue to justify their own actions while condemning the actions of others ...
Since there are so many different people from so many different nations/states in the forums ...
I had this wild idea that we could attempt to put together "a unit of morality" that would work and could be used worldwide ...
Humorous contributions allowed? Yeah!!! You bet!!
Political and religious ones allowed? Nah!!!! We have enough of those on the other threads!!!
All contributions to have a humanitarian slant to them!!!