DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ?? ( Archived) (115)

Oct 11, 2008 8:50 PM CST DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ??
tedashev
tedashevtedashevasheville, North Carolina USA12 Threads 257 Posts
There not accepting the copy's
where was he born ?? he has to prove it !!

let me know I'm heading off for work !!
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Oct 11, 2008 8:52 PM CST DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ??
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
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Oct 11, 2008 8:54 PM CST DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ??
cherokeemoon2
cherokeemoon2cherokeemoon2grove, Oklahoma USA15 Threads 545 Posts
tedashev: There not accepting the copy's
where was he born ?? he has to prove it !!

let me know I'm heading off for work !!
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 11, 2008 8:55 PM CST DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ??
wixomwizard
wixomwizardwixomwizardWixom, Michigan USA35 Threads 3,636 Posts
He was born? How about that!uh oh
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Oct 11, 2008 8:56 PM CST DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ??
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
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Oct 11, 2008 8:59 PM CST DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ??
jbibiza
jbibizajbibizaCasinos, Valencia Spain94 Threads 4 Polls 4,914 Posts
Birth Certificate

Claim: Barack Obama has refused to make his birth certificate available for examination because it contains damaging information about him.

Status: False.

Example: [Collected via e-mail, June 2008]

I read that Obama will not release his birth certificate. Have heard rumors it's because he is listed as white. Or that because he isn't a U.S. born citizen.

Origins: In the first half of 2008, a number of rumors swirling around about presidential candidate Barack Obama coalesced in the claim that he "refused to produce his birth certificate" (as if that were a typical expectation of presidential candidates) because doing so would demonstrate some or all of those rumors to be true: that Barack Obama was "not African," that he was a Muslim with a middle name of Mohammed, that he wasn't born in the United States at all (and thus didn't qualify as a native-born citizen), etc.

In any event the rumormongers were likely to be disappointed. Information about religion and race, when it was collected for birth certificates, simply reflected
whatever the parents identified themselves to be; those values weren't officially assigned to the newborn children as immutable labels. And of course, no infant has any control over whatever names his parents choose for him.

As things turned out, when the Obama campaign made a copy of his Certification of Live Birth from the State of Hawaii available on the Internet in June 2008, it validated none of those rumors: The certificate shows his full name to be "Barack Hussein Obama II," it lists his father's race as "African" and his mother's as "Caucasian," it contains no information about religion, and it reports his birthplace as being Honolulu, Hawaii.

A number of self-proclaimed experts immediately seized the opportunity to pronounce the certificate a forgery (even though none of them had actually seen the original, just a scanned image of it), picking on such specious details as minor variations from other Hawaii-issued certificates and the lack of an embossed seal and signature. (Some forgery claimants even maintained that the certificate was actually an altered version of one issued to Barack Obama's half-sister, Maya.) Aside from the inherent absurdity of such claims (i.e., that a major party presidential nominee would risk his entire candidacy on a fraud that could be uncovered simply by a check of state health records), the supposedly incriminating details don't pan out: the certificate is consistent with others issued in the same time and place, and the embossed seal and signature don't show through very well on the scanned front image made available on the Internet because they were applied to the back of the original document, not the front.

In August 2008, Philadelphia attorney Philip Berg included claims of a forged certificate (among other rumors) as the basis for a suit in U.S. District Court challenging Barack Obama's eligibility for the presidency on the grounds that Obama was actually born in Kenya (not Hawaii) and/or subsequently gave up his U.S. citizenship and thus does not qualify as a native-born citizen of the U.S.

Urban Legends Reference Pages © 1995-2008 by snopes.com.
This material may not be reproduced without permission.
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Sources Sources:

Hart, James. "Mr. Hoover's Eligibility for the Presidency."
Virginia Law Review. Vol. 15, No. 5 (Mar. 1929; pp. 476-478).

Meese, Edwin, et al. The Heritage Guide to the Constitution.
Washington, D.C.: Regnery Publishing, 2005. ISBN 1-5969-8001-X (p. 190).

Monk, Linda R. The Words We Live By: Your Annotated Guide to the Constitution.
New York: Hyperion, 2003. ISBN 0-7868-6720-5 (pp. 62-74, 201-204).


doh Hope this answers your question...
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Oct 11, 2008 8:59 PM CST DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ??
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
By gosh...I heareded he was borned in one of them there muslim countries. rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 11, 2008 9:00 PM CST DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ??
cherokeemoon2
cherokeemoon2cherokeemoon2grove, Oklahoma USA15 Threads 545 Posts
wixomwizard: He was born? How about that!
SURPRISE SURPRISE WILL WONDERS NEVER CEASE.rolling on the floor laughing wink rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 11, 2008 9:01 PM CST DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ??
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
jbibiza: Birth Certificate

Claim: Barack Obama has refused to make his birth certificate available for examination because it contains damaging information about him.

Status: False.

Example: [Collected via e-mail, June 2008]

I read that Obama will not release his birth certificate. Have heard rumors it's because he is listed as white. Or that because he isn't a U.S. born citizen.

Origins: In the first half of 2008, a number of rumors swirling around about presidential candidate Barack Obama coalesced in the claim that he "refused to produce his birth certificate" (as if that were a typical expectation of presidential candidates) because doing so would demonstrate some or all of those rumors to be true: that Barack Obama was "not African," that he was a Muslim with a middle name of Mohammed, that he wasn't born in the United States at all (and thus didn't qualify as a native-born citizen), etc.


As things turned out, when the Obama campaign made a copy of his Certification of Live Birth from the State of Hawaii available on the Internet in June 2008, it validated none of those rumors: The certificate shows his full name to be "Barack Hussein Obama II," it lists his father's race as "African" and his mother's as "Caucasian," it contains no information about religion, and it reports his birthplace as being Honolulu, Hawaii.

A number of self-proclaimed experts immediately seized the opportunity to pronounce the certificate a forgery (even though none of them had actually seen the original, just a scanned image of it), picking on such specious details as minor variations from other Hawaii-issued certificates and the lack of an embossed seal and signature. (Some forgery claimants even maintained that the certificate was actually an altered version of one issued to Barack Obama's half-sister, Maya.) Aside from the inherent absurdity of such claims (i.e., that a major party presidential nominee would risk his entire candidacy on a fraud that could be uncovered simply by a check of state health records), the supposedly incriminating details don't pan out: the certificate is consistent with others issued in the same time and place, and the embossed seal and signature don't show through very well on the scanned front image made available on the Internet because they were applied to the back of the original document, not the front.

In August 2008, Philadelphia attorney Philip Berg included claims of a forged certificate (among other rumors) as the basis for a suit in U.S. District Court challenging Barack Obama's eligibility for the presidency on the grounds that Obama was actually born in Kenya (not Hawaii) and/or subsequently gave up his U.S. citizenship and thus does not qualify as a native-born citizen of the U.S.

Urban Legends Reference Pages © 1995-2008 by snopes.com.
This material may not be reproduced without permission.
snopes and the snopes.com logo are registered service marks of snopes.com.
Sources Sources:

Hart, James. "Mr. Hoover's Eligibility for the Presidency."
Virginia Law Review. Vol. 15, No. 5 (Mar. 1929; pp. 476-478).

Meese, Edwin, et al. The Heritage Guide to the Constitution.
Washington, D.C.: Regnery Publishing, 2005. ISBN 1-5969-8001-X (p. 190).

Monk, Linda R. The Words We Live By: Your Annotated Guide to the Constitution.
New York: Hyperion, 2003. ISBN 0-7868-6720-5 (pp. 62-74, 201-204).


Hope this answers your question...



Now if we can see his medical history to see if he's still addicted to cocaine.... not a big issue....at all. rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 11, 2008 9:02 PM CST DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ??
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
When you're born by immaculate conception....you don't need a friggin Birth Certificate. angel
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Oct 11, 2008 9:02 PM CST DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ??
wixomwizard
wixomwizardwixomwizardWixom, Michigan USA35 Threads 3,636 Posts
Did he come with any kind of warrenty???
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Oct 11, 2008 9:03 PM CST DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ??
jbibiza
jbibizajbibizaCasinos, Valencia Spain94 Threads 4 Polls 4,914 Posts
Indyfella: Now if we can see his medical history to see if he's still addicted to cocaine.... not a big issue....at all.



I believe your mixing him up with George Dubbya...laugh
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Oct 11, 2008 9:03 PM CST DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ??
ahmmm well I hope he finds it...cuz, I've already sent my absentee vote in for him...grin
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Oct 11, 2008 9:04 PM CST DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ??
wixomwizard
wixomwizardwixomwizardWixom, Michigan USA35 Threads 3,636 Posts
Are you sure that you did'nt mean the immaculate misconseption?confused
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Oct 11, 2008 9:06 PM CST DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ??
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
jbibiza: I believe your mixing him up with George Dubbya...



Naaaaaaaaaaa read his book. he confesses professor


He still smokes cigarettes....I feel so sorry for his girls choking on all that 2nd hand smoke. There should be a law!!! professor
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Oct 11, 2008 9:07 PM CST DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ??
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
wixomwizard: Are you sure that you did'nt mean the immaculate misconseption?



Are you saying he survived the trip down his momma's leg? rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 11, 2008 9:07 PM CST DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ??
cherokeemoon2
cherokeemoon2cherokeemoon2grove, Oklahoma USA15 Threads 545 Posts
wixomwizard: Are you sure that you did'nt mean the immaculate misconseption?
OH GOOD ONE Wix.laugh
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Oct 11, 2008 9:08 PM CST DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ??
cherokeemoon2
cherokeemoon2cherokeemoon2grove, Oklahoma USA15 Threads 545 Posts
Indyfella: Are you saying he survived the trip down his momma's leg?
EEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 11, 2008 9:09 PM CST DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ??
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
I'm guessing Rev. Wright probably has it on file. applause
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Oct 11, 2008 9:09 PM CST DID OBAMA EVER COME UP WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YET ??
gypsykisses
gypsykissesgypsykissesPort Huron, Michigan USA7 Threads 1 Polls 2,405 Posts
tedashev: There not accepting the copy's
where was he born ?? he has to prove it !!

let me know I'm heading off for work !!






drinking Maybe Palin burned it...........
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