BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference? ( Archived) (111)

May 20, 2006 10:42 AM CST BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference?
deborah12
deborah12deborah12wolverhampton, UK89 Threads 11,243 Posts
ok thanks, wheres lion gone??
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May 20, 2006 10:44 AM CST BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference?
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
In civiliozed countries I wouldn't worry..lol
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May 20, 2006 10:44 AM CST BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference?
deborah12
deborah12deborah12wolverhampton, UK89 Threads 11,243 Posts
lion, how do they embalm you do you know
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May 20, 2006 10:45 AM CST BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference?
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
LOL..still alive deb..lol..don't worry..laugh
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May 20, 2006 10:46 AM CST BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference?
deborah12
deborah12deborah12wolverhampton, UK89 Threads 11,243 Posts
glad your still herecheering this subject i find soo interesting tell me everything you know pleasebanana banana
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May 20, 2006 10:50 AM CST BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference?
cajunfroggy
cajunfroggycajunfroggyWaco, USA145 Threads 7,332 Posts
i will be dead i really dont care what happens to me just want my son to be taken care of and for him to know that i have and always will love him
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May 20, 2006 10:50 AM CST BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference?
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
STEP 1- Pre-Embalming Prep
First, funeral home personnel lay the remains out on a stainless steel or porcelain embalming table (see picture above), not unlike those used for an autopsy. They then remove all of the clothing off the remains, and either clean and return them to the next of kin or destroy them as they would do with any bedclothes that accompany the remains. Next, funeral home personnel carefully inventory any jewelry, usually taping or tying rings in place , so they do not disappear. Other jewelry and glasses are removed during embalming and then replaced on the remains.

There are several methods of closing the mouth. The prime consideration is to have the lips meet naturally. If the mouth is closed too loosely, the funeral director cannot produce a pleasant look, and if the mouth is closed too tightly, the area under the nose puckers, giving the upper lip a distinctly unnatural expression, sometimes appearing to scowl at the mourners. The funeral director will occasionally widen the lower lip to improve a face's appearance.

STEP 2- Preparation
The funeral director cleans the remains surface with a disinfectant spray or solution by sponging it onto the remains. Next, the funeral director positions the remains. He relieves rigor mortis (the stiffening of muscle tissue due to chemical change) by flexing, bending and massaging the arms and legs. Then he or she will move the limbs to a suitable position, usually with the legs extended and arms at the sides. To begin the embalming process, which is the removal of blood, and replacing it with a formaldehyde based fluid, a small incision is usually made on the remains right side of the lower neck. It is at this position that two of the largest circulatory vessels are located. The carotid artery and the jugular vein.

STEP 3- Embalming Process
Incisions are made in both vessels, and a tube connected to the the embalming fluid pump is placed into the carotid artery, Another tube is placed into the jugular vein, this is called a drain tube. The basic theory is to pump embalming fluid into the artery, and this will cause the blood to return through the veins and flow outside the remains for disposal. Approximately 3 gallons of a mixture of fluid and water are circulated through the remains for thorough disinfection and preservation to take place. In most cases, this will be the only point of injection of the embalming fluid. There are times when clots and other factors stop the flow of fluid throughout out the whole system, and at these times, other points of injection are necessary in order to do a complete and thorough embalming. There are many factors which go into the process, which cannot be explained here due to space limitations, but some of the factors that the funeral director must assess before embalming are the mode of death, the weight of the remains, the general overall condition of the remains, any disease associated with the remains, etc. These factors determine the types and strengths of fluids used, and the type of embalming necessary to complete the task. Many fluids have a slight dye added to them, which gives the remains a pinkish glow, and also acts as a guide for the funeral director, making it visible for him to see the fluid as it travels through the remains. This type of embalming is known as arterial embalming.

A commonly asked question at this point is:
What do you do with the blood you remove from the body? Once the blood mixes with the embalming chemicals, it becomes basically harmless. The laws allow us to put the blood down the normal sanitary sewer drains in the preparation room sink as it does not pose a health risk.
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May 20, 2006 10:50 AM CST BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference?
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
The next step, called cavity embalming, is the application of full strength fluid to the internal organs of the remains. A small incision is made just above the navel, and a long needle called a trocar is placed inside the abdominal and thoracic cavities of the remains. The funeral director aspirates both the abdominal and thoracic cavities. Aspiration is the removal of blood and other bodily fluids, through suction. A suction pump, either water or electric powered is used to remove these fluids. The trocar is then attached to a gravity fed system, which caused full strength fluid to be put into each organ, causing a more thorough disinfection and preservation of the remains All incisions are then sutured closed..

STEP 4- Washing
The funeral director then washes the remains with cool water, often adding a soapy, germicidal solution containing bleach to kill viruses and bacteria. He or she then cleans the fingernails, uses solvents to remove any stains on the remains, and applies other chemicals to remove scaling on the hands and face. Blood in the hair is removed with washing and chemicals. The funeral director then washes the hair. funeral directors may do this either before or after embalming;

Hairdressing is normally done after embalming has been completed.

Any hair stubble on the remains is shaved with a razor. Facial hair and any visible nose hair are removed from all bodies, including those of women and children who may have excess facial hair because of medications they received, or because they have downy hair on their upper lips and cheeks. Ear hairs are sometimes removed and any unsightly facial hairs are removed or trimmed. funeral directors must be careful with beards and mustaches, since once accidentally removed, they can be difficult to properly replace.

STEP 5- Dressing and Casketing
The fifth and final step is dressing and casketing of the remains. Using the clothes provided by the family, or purchased through the funeral home, the funeral director proceeds to dress the remains. It is common to use a full set of clothing, including underwear, socks or stockings, and sometime even shoes if so desired. Once dressed the funeral director will begin the cosmetizing of the face and hands of the remains. Usually a special mortuary cosmetic is used, although store bought cosmetics may be used also. This is the true art of the funeral director. It is through the proper application of cosmetics, that a more life-like presentation will be made. Too much or too little cosmetics have a definite affect on the appearance of the remains. Proper coloring must be determined, and the cosmetics adjusted as such.

The final step in the preparation of the remains is to place the remains in a casket. Adjustments to clothing, touching up of hair and cosmetics and properly fixing the interior of the casket. This final step is usually very time consuming and must be done properly. This is the results of all the other work combined. The funeral director tries to pose both the head and hands in a life-like position, and finishes up his work by making everything look tidy and uniform.
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May 20, 2006 10:54 AM CST BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference?
deborah12
deborah12deborah12wolverhampton, UK89 Threads 11,243 Posts
thanks lion thats very interesting
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May 20, 2006 10:57 AM CST BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference?
deborah12
deborah12deborah12wolverhampton, UK89 Threads 11,243 Posts
i didnt realise there was more do you know how long that takes
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May 20, 2006 10:58 AM CST BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference?
deborah12
deborah12deborah12wolverhampton, UK89 Threads 11,243 Posts
seriously?its not that bad and its very quick, they did it to me once with about 5 students watching that wasnt so much fun
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May 20, 2006 11:12 AM CST BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference?
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
How about a Rear View mirror too? rolling on the floor laughing
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May 20, 2006 11:17 AM CST BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference?
I would have a black, thick hospital blanket draped over me, with the tiniest of holes, not big enough to fit ANYTHING wider than a little finger through. So I would'nt be able to observe a mirror. It could be a good idea to record it on my phone as well, just in case he pulls a fast one.
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May 20, 2006 11:29 AM CST BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference?
deborah12
deborah12deborah12wolverhampton, UK89 Threads 11,243 Posts
well theyve got to learn
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May 20, 2006 11:32 AM CST BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference?
deborah12
deborah12deborah12wolverhampton, UK89 Threads 11,243 Posts
buy the way they dont cover you up either its like they can see everything and i wasnt impressed when the doctor put his finger up my bum and said to the students' you can feel if a womens got a tampax in by doing this examination. i tell you whats a hell of a lot worse i had a sidmoidoscopy and a colonoscopy and ive got to have another one im absoutely dreading they really hurt (by the way thats a camera up your bum and goes into the colon
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May 20, 2006 2:05 PM CST BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference?
deborah12
deborah12deborah12wolverhampton, UK89 Threads 11,243 Posts
i know this is a bit morbid but when you go to a funeral the coffin goes down during the end of the service, is that when they burn you
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May 20, 2006 2:07 PM CST BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference?
nwnstar
nwnstarnwnstarConway, USA38 Threads 5,464 Posts
if you are to be cremated, they don't have a true funeral. it's a memorial service. you've generally already been burned.

being lowered into the ground only happens for burials.
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May 20, 2006 2:08 PM CST BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference?
deborah12
deborah12deborah12wolverhampton, UK89 Threads 11,243 Posts
i mean when i went to my aunts funeral which was a cramation towards the end of the service the coffin goes down i persume to the place where you are creamted
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May 20, 2006 2:09 PM CST BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference?
nwnstar
nwnstarnwnstarConway, USA38 Threads 5,464 Posts
i figure...my family will have me buried. 'tis the catholic way...

i'd rather be donated to science, help out our next generation.

and yeah, i'm an organ donor.
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May 20, 2006 2:10 PM CST BURIAL OR CREMATION....do you have a preference?
nwnstar
nwnstarnwnstarConway, USA38 Threads 5,464 Posts
what do you mean by "goes down"?
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