Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma. (24)

Jan 18, 2009 12:00 PM CST Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma.
TheKid52
TheKid52TheKid52Birmingham, West Midlands, England UK13 Threads 490 Posts
Welcome any thoughts on this subject from all the guys and gals on the Irish CS. As one myself I have felt that I am not invited to the parties etc., that was useto when I had my husband. Men shun me and women are scared of me. So I am left out of what is or was my social life. All thoughts welcome. Cheers.conversing
Jan 18, 2009 12:05 PM CST Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma.
wexlady41
wexlady41wexlady41Wexford, Ireland47 Threads 5 Polls 7,935 Posts
TheKid52: Welcome any thoughts on this subject from all the guys and gals on the Irish CS. As one myself I have felt that I am not invited to the parties etc., that was useto when I had my husband. Men shun me and women are scared of me. So I am left out of what is or was my social life. All thoughts welcome. Cheers.


Same as any woman on her own.

I find other women the worst though. They see women who are on their own, for any reason, as a threat. I have seen so many women "mark their territory" when there is a single woman around. I take it as their insecurity.

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Jan 18, 2009 12:11 PM CST Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma.
TheKid52
TheKid52TheKid52Birmingham, West Midlands, England UK13 Threads 490 Posts
wexlady41: Same as any woman on her own.

I find other women the worst though. They see women who are on their own, for any reason, as a threat. I have seen so many women "mark their territory" when there is a single woman around. I take it as their insecurity.
Thankyou Wexlady, I cannot believe the way people have changed towards me in the last 2 years. I feel like I have got a disease now. I do notice women watching their men more around me. Why I don't want their guys. I would have expected support instead I got ostricised like Persona Non Grata!! Friends have vanished off the planet! Still life goes on eh! The only time I get a call from a friend is when they want something from me, or to pick my brain. I am frankly fed up with it. I am not really vicious towards my husband for dying on me. Its just too hard. Cheers.conversing
Jan 18, 2009 12:11 PM CST Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma.
nuala
nualanualadublin, Dublin Ireland12 Threads 6,456 Posts
TheKid52: Welcome any thoughts on this subject from all the guys and gals on the Irish CS. As one myself I have felt that I am not invited to the parties etc., that was useto when I had my husband. Men shun me and women are scared of me. So I am left out of what is or was my social life. All thoughts welcome. Cheers.



I am a widow now for nearly 10 years and at the time John died, my social life went out the window as i just focused on the children. But i never got any of that shunning you talk about. I have always been included in everything social even weddings on my own. It was hard at first to accept invitations but over time i am comfortable with it.
But then my social life changed as well i now have a different social circle of friends compared to when i was part of a couple as most of the couples we went out with were John's friends.

And then 2 years ago my son signed me up on CS and have made my social life a hell of alot bigger and have met some nice as well as not so nice people....


But can i remind you when you become a widow or widower your whole life goes thru a life changing process, as grief effects different people in different ways. So you are vunerable and over sensitive to things that didnt matter before the change. Well that just my personal expirences and thoughts on it....take care teddybear
Jan 18, 2009 12:16 PM CST Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma.
wexlady41: Same as any woman on her own.

I find other women the worst though. They see women who are on their own, for any reason, as a threat. I have seen so many women "mark their territory" when there is a single woman around. I take it as their insecurity.


Yes i think other women see any woman on their own a threat ...Some kind of insecurity ....
But i cant understand the men "UNLESSS ", they might also c another woman as a threat , leading their own partners astray , and maybe even having a bit of fun without them there laugh laugh .... leaving the other women 2 look at their own relationships and realiseing something is wrong here grin

OK better stop now grin
Jan 18, 2009 12:24 PM CST Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma.
martin212
martin212martin212dublin, Dublin Ireland19 Threads 602 Posts
hi TheKid52,
i have had simmular experinces myself having lost my own partner some years ago,i sing and play a little guitar,iv noticed with some of the songs ive written about my partner,theres a terrible element of jelousy on hearing thiem from some women,its almost as if the seem to think that i wont love another,which is totally untrue,otherwise i wouldent be here, all love and relationships differ,and are totally uniqe to the two induviduals concerend,its a bit like even though you were a good loving partner all those years,your judged on it for some strange reason,i dont know why this would be,it dosent make any since to me thats for sure,were all trying to move on with life and the future,and everyone has a past,i certanally never judged anyone because of their past marrital status,i dont know why people do that, immaturity in whats really inportant in life i gess, martin
Jan 18, 2009 12:25 PM CST Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma.
TheKid52
TheKid52TheKid52Birmingham, West Midlands, England UK13 Threads 490 Posts
nuala: I am a widow now for nearly 10 years and at the time John died, my social life went out the window as i just focused on the children. But i never got any of that shunning you talk about. I have always been included in everything social even weddings on my own. It was hard at first to accept invitations but over time i am comfortable with it.
But then my social life changed as well i now have a different social circle of friends compared to when i was part of a couple as most of the couples we went out with were John's friends.

And then 2 years ago my son signed me up on CS and have made my social life a hell of alot bigger and have met some nice as well as not so nice people....But can i remind you when you become a widow or widower your whole life goes thru a life changing process, as grief effects different people in different ways. So you are vunerable and over sensitive to things that didnt matter before the change. Well that just my personal expirences and thoughts on it....take care
Thankyou so much for taking the time to reply. We are slightly different as I have no children and that makes a hell of a difference to how people feel about you. It is true that as a couple you were accepted in all areas of social life and being alone is an entirely different matter. Grief well I still have no idea what I feel anymore about life. I enjoy the people on here they are great and have been so nice. Some of the guys are total asses but they are usually from another country. I think I am a target for the young ones who just fancy a leg over and think wow a woman of that age alone, she could go for it. I do talk to my Husband each day and ask him why he died on me and left me in the world alone, no he has not reponded. I just live and work and thats it for now. Thanks again.conversing conversing
Jan 18, 2009 12:30 PM CST Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma.
TheKid52: Thankyou so much for taking the time to reply. We are slightly different as I have no children and that makes a hell of a difference to how people feel about you. It is true that as a couple you were accepted in all areas of social life and being alone is an entirely different matter. Grief well I still have no idea what I feel anymore about life. I enjoy the people on here they are great and have been so nice. Some of the guys are total asses but they are usually from another country. I think I am a target for the young ones who just fancy a leg over and think wow a woman of that age alone, she could go for it. I do talk to my Husband each day and ask him why he died on me and left me in the world alone, no he has not reponded. I just live and work and thats it for now. Thanks again.


U are not alone , just grief makes it feel like that ....
Im sure his spirit is there with you ...hug hug hug hug
Jan 18, 2009 12:32 PM CST Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma.
TheKid52
TheKid52TheKid52Birmingham, West Midlands, England UK13 Threads 490 Posts
martin212: hi TheKid52,
i have had simmular experinces myself having lost my own partner some years ago,i sing and play a little guitar,iv noticed with some of the songs ive written about my partner,theres a terrible element of jelousy on hearing thiem from some women,its almost as if the seem to think that i wont love another,which is totally untrue,otherwise i wouldent be here, all love and relationships differ,and are totally uniqe to the two induviduals concerend,its a bit like even though you were a good loving partner all those years,your judged on it for some strange reason,i dont know why this would be,it dosent make any since to me thats for sure,were all trying to move on with life and the future,and everyone has a past,i certanally never judged anyone because of their past marrital status,i dont know why people do that, immaturity in whats really inportant in life i gess, martin
Hi Martin I am so sorry to hear of your loss too! It is really hard to put up with the way you are treated its for sure like you just don't exist. I had my only life long partner who knew me and had the unconditional love for me. He knew me inside out and never whinged about the spare tyre, the fat legs, the belly, in fact he loved it. How to start all over again with a new person who would look at me and think Christ she is fat. I could not take the recriminations of that from a new man. Most think that I am very wealthy too which is another wounder in moving on. Widows usually are well taken care of, in my case I was wounded by not being of a certain religion and lost everything. I am not crying over that. I just feel the stigma is very strong especially here in UK. Thanks a lot Martin for that and taking the time to talk. Cheers.teddybear
Jan 18, 2009 12:34 PM CST Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma.
TheKid52
TheKid52TheKid52Birmingham, West Midlands, England UK13 Threads 490 Posts
nitak: U are not alone , just grief makes it feel like that ....
Im sure his spirit is there with you ...
Yes and now I cannot continue for a while. You are right the grief does kick in and it is now. Chat you later. Thanks. teddybear
Jan 18, 2009 12:40 PM CST Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma.
nuala
nualanualadublin, Dublin Ireland12 Threads 6,456 Posts
Can i say something hear and its not intended as to offend you. How long are you widowed? and if you are still pinning for your partner, people who havent lost their partners dont and cant understand then what we are going thru. It is the same for my friend who marriage has broke up, i dont know what its like as she still has her ex paradeing around as i have a grave. Anyone that finds themselves single again finds it hard to adjust so do our friends and family. You need to give yourself time to grieve. But at the same time learn to laugh again and then learn to be happy in yourself and the friends that mean the most to you are the ones who stick around.....But i do know what you are talkin about as i have been there....teddybear
Jan 18, 2009 12:41 PM CST Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma.
martin212
martin212martin212dublin, Dublin Ireland19 Threads 602 Posts
hi TheKid52,not at all another thing is also i dont know why people are so frickle and iffity when it comes to a persons looks,what dose it matter,whats inside is what matters,having experinced as you say, uncondtnal love,none of therse things matter, love is what matters,im glad i was of some help to you your not alone, in alot of the feelings and vives that other people seem to express so readly without a thought for others feelings,mind yourself,hold your head high, and take care,martinteddybear hug
Jan 18, 2009 12:43 PM CST Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma.
wave nuala ...

Don't take 2 long .... as its always better 2 keep busy hug hug
Jan 18, 2009 12:50 PM CST Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma.
nuala
nualanualadublin, Dublin Ireland12 Threads 6,456 Posts
nitak: nuala ...

Don't take 2 long .... as its always better 2 keep busy


hiya nitakwave

yes and sharing is a great way to ease it ....hug
Jan 18, 2009 12:51 PM CST Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma.
nuala
nualanualadublin, Dublin Ireland12 Threads 6,456 Posts
martin212: hi TheKid52,not at all another thing is also i dont know why people are so frickle and iffity when it comes to a persons looks,what dose it matter,whats inside is what matters,having experinced as you say, uncondtnal love,none of therse things matter, love is what matters,im glad i was of some help to you your not alone, in alot of the feelings and vives that other people seem to express so readly without a thought for others feelings,mind yourself,hold your head high, and take care,martin


hiya martin this is for you.....teddybear teddybear
Jan 18, 2009 12:55 PM CST Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma.
martin212
martin212martin212dublin, Dublin Ireland19 Threads 602 Posts
hi nula, thanks for that, and these are for every one we could all do with thiemteddybear teddybear teddybear teddybear teddybear teddybear teddybear teddybear teddybear teddybear teddybear teddybear teddybear teddybear
Jan 18, 2009 12:58 PM CST Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma.
martin212: hi nula, thanks for that, and these are for every one we could all do with thiem



Cheers (just caught them all grin ).....ok will share then !!laugh
Jan 18, 2009 1:04 PM CST Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma.
Irishminx
IrishminxIrishminxCork, Ireland16 Threads 2,282 Posts
nuala: I am a widow now for nearly 10 years and at the time John died, my social life went out the window as i just focused on the children. But i never got any of that shunning you talk about. I have always been included in everything social even weddings on my own. It was hard at first to accept invitations but over time i am comfortable with it.
But then my social life changed as well i now have a different social circle of friends compared to when i was part of a couple as most of the couples we went out with were John's friends.

And then 2 years ago my son signed me up on CS and have made my social life a hell of alot bigger and have met some nice as well as not so nice people....But can i remind you when you become a widow or widower your whole life goes thru a life changing process, as grief effects different people in different ways. So you are vunerable and over sensitive to things that didnt matter before the change. Well that just my personal expirences and thoughts on it....take care


Nuala,

Touche,

I love you,

Trich xx
Jan 18, 2009 1:10 PM CST Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma.
nuala
nualanualadublin, Dublin Ireland12 Threads 6,456 Posts
Irishminx: Nuala,

Touche,

I love you,

Trich xx


thanks Trich.....love ya tooteddybear hug kiss
Jan 18, 2009 1:32 PM CST Being a Widow seems to carry a Stigma.
Irishminx
IrishminxIrishminxCork, Ireland16 Threads 2,282 Posts
nuala: thanks Trich.....love ya too


Thank you my friend,

I hope you are well?

Trich
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