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Feb 11, 2009 10:53 PM CST Fear is a virus we'll never cure. Could that be true in your opinion?
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
takeit4granted: just from my perspective,,I see fear of failure suppressing someones ability to achieve,,for me,,its always been a motivational force


When we perceive anything it is from the mind of the ego.
Perception is always changing, therefore the meaning is never
the same. The ego is seen to be insane because of the lack
of constancy. This world that we 'made' embodies the ego.
Everything in this world has a beginning and an end. Nothing
here is lasting. Ego is synonymous with fear so would be
equated with perception, insanity and unreality.

Love is not something that is perceived. Love is constancy
and never changes. Love is eternal and of the Spirit. The
Spirit is a Creation of God or of the Supreme Highest Intelligence.
(many names)

I could get more into the Divine but I would be symbolically
crucified and I want to live until I wake up tomorrow. And,
to be perfectly honest I'm getting kinda tired. laugh

(and, I have a feeling that you know all this, anyway.)
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Feb 11, 2009 10:53 PM CST Fear is a virus we'll never cure. Could that be true in your opinion?
galaxy15
galaxy15galaxy15melbourne, Victoria Australia3 Threads 480 Posts
Fear and excitement elicit the same physiological reactions in the human body. Moreover, as a threader has already remarked - if a child dies in a movie, emotions well up. Or, the thought of a child dying makes emotions well up.
The human brain has the same reaction to what happens 'in real life' as it does to the memory of an event. Which event has 'actually' taken place?

cheers
I like this thread
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Feb 11, 2009 11:05 PM CST Fear is a virus we'll never cure. Could that be true in your opinion?
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
galaxy15: Fear and excitement elicit the same physiological reactions in the human body. Moreover, as a threader has already remarked - if a child dies in a movie, emotions well up. Or, the thought of a child dying makes emotions well up.
The human brain has the same reaction to what happens 'in real life' as it does to the memory of an event. Which event has 'actually' taken place?

cheers
I like this thread


I agree, I would also say that you are not born with fear, it is learned. but as you grasp what is possible in life, realities and pain, give you a sense of what fear is, most fears you can overcome, for instance, I do not fear anything personally, except going to hell....But I am fearful for people such as a child, you fear them hurting themselves, or walking out in traffic, etc. etc. Many times I wish I could take someones place, because I know I can handle what they are going through, where as I don't feel they can or are handling it(more or less) If a family member has a broken bone, or cancer or something, I would rather be the one suffering then, to watch them suffer, it hurts me more to watch, then it would if we just traded places...cheers
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Feb 11, 2009 11:40 PM CST Fear is a virus we'll never cure. Could that be true in your opinion?
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
In response to: Every aspect of human life is governed by fear.
Some unconscious or superconscious individuals may not agree with that. Any comments?


I agree with the author of this thread.

At the risk of not being understood...

Nothing in this world is real.
This is a world made by the ego/fear.
We have 'made' a world of things and illusion.
The body we 'made' is only a means of communication.
Pain is ego based.
Pain is not real but only perceived that it is.
Since we have chosen to be of the world, our senses perceive
pain and fear.
When we are in touch with our Spirit we experience Love
which only knows Joy, Freedom, Life, God, Eternity.
Our Spirit Mind communicates with the Holy Spirit and
through to God.
Our Ego Mind dictates to the body and stays within the realm
of the world here.
We can listen to the Mind of the Spirit or we can listen to
the Mind of the Ego. We are given the will to choose which
one. It's always a choice between the two. The voice of the
Spirit is quieter than the voice of the Ego.
What we don't realize is that the Spirt holds Reality, Truth,
Knowledge, Creation.
Not the false illusions of the ego with the conflicts of the
world.

So there.
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Feb 11, 2009 11:47 PM CST Fear is a virus we'll never cure. Could that be true in your opinion?
livinglarge
livinglargelivinglargein a good place, Kildare Ireland10 Threads 5,879 Posts
COSMICDUST: Every aspect of human life is governed by fear.
Some unconscious or superconscious individuals may not agree with that. Any comments?


dunno

one on here is afraid of other people opinionsroll eyes

goes demented if questioned on his subjectiveness.
I am not alone in seeing this nasty trait thumbs up

P.S. Hello Cosmowave
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Feb 12, 2009 12:00 AM CST Fear is a virus we'll never cure. Could that be true in your opinion?
livinglarge
livinglargelivinglargein a good place, Kildare Ireland10 Threads 5,879 Posts
Dusty45: When we perceive anything it is from the mind of the ego.
Perception is always changing, therefore the meaning is never
the same. The ego is seen to be insane because of the lack
of constancy. This world that we 'made' embodies the ego.
Everything in this world has a beginning and an end. Nothing
here is lasting. Ego is synonymous with fear so would be
equated with perception, insanity and unreality.

Love is not something that is perceived. Love is constancy
and never changes. Love is eternal and of the Spirit. The
Spirit is a Creation of God or of the Supreme Highest Intelligence.
(many names)

I could get more into the Divine but I would be symbolically
crucified and I want to live until I wake up tomorrow. And,
to be perfectly honest I'm getting kinda tired.

(and, I have a feeling that you know all this, anyway.)

Hi Dusty wave

love it, IMO it discribes some1 on CS down to a T,
I mean the mad ego thingy ,the insanity ,unreality aspect also applause
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Feb 12, 2009 8:05 AM CST Fear is a virus we'll never cure. Could that be true in your opinion?
COSMICDUST
COSMICDUSTCOSMICDUSTNewark, Delaware USA14 Threads 271 Posts
Dusty45: I agree with the author of this thread.

At the risk of not being understood...

Nothing in this world is real.
This is a world made by the ego/fear.
We have 'made' a world of things and illusion.
The body we 'made' is only a means of communication.
Pain is ego based.
Pain is not real but only perceived that it is.
Since we have chosen to be of the world, our senses perceive
pain and fear.
When we are in touch with our Spirit we experience Love
which only knows Joy, Freedom, Life, God, Eternity.
Our Spirit Mind communicates with the Holy Spirit and
through to God.
Our Ego Mind dictates to the body and stays within the realm
of the world here.
We can listen to the Mind of the Spirit or we can listen to
the Mind of the Ego. We are given the will to choose which
one. It's always a choice between the two. The voice of the
Spirit is quieter than the voice of the Ego.
What we don't realize is that the Spirt holds Reality, Truth,
Knowledge, Creation.
Not the false illusions of the ego with the conflicts of the
world.

So there.

So profound, so precious and deep are your words.
Thank you for sharing with us your thoughts.

Like springs pushing towards rapids and into rivers,
Your words will build oceans of knowledge, one day.
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Feb 12, 2009 8:26 AM CST Fear is a virus we'll never cure. Could that be true in your opinion?
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
My grand daughter stayed with me for nearly a year.
she lives in Kuwait with her family there but I was
given the priviledge to have this time with her.
She has asperger's - a form of autism. She would
come up with extraordinary insights and I would say
to her, "Willow, where did this come from??"
She would say, "I don't know, it was just in my mind."
kiss
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Feb 12, 2009 8:31 AM CST Fear is a virus we'll never cure. Could that be true in your opinion?
takeit4granted
takeit4grantedtakeit4grantednew berlin, Wisconsin USA4 Threads 785 Posts
Dusty45: My grand daughter stayed with me for nearly a year.
she lives in Kuwait with her family there but I was
given the priviledge to have this time with her.
She has asperger's - a form of autism. She would
come up with extraordinary insights and I would say
to her, "Willow, where did this come from??"
She would say, "I don't know, it was just in my mind."


you have a beautiful mind, Dusty bouquet
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Feb 12, 2009 8:37 AM CST Fear is a virus we'll never cure. Could that be true in your opinion?
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
takeit4granted: you have a beautiful mind, Dusty


Now, aren't you just so everlovin, sweet. teddybear

namaste' hug
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Feb 12, 2009 9:21 AM CST Fear is a virus we'll never cure. Could that be true in your opinion?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
sambhava: I do agree with what you've written, it's just that every time I do strive to enlighten others they get offended. In fact when I tell them that they're being mass-conditioned, mass-duped, mass-poisoned and mass exploited by their own governments they get get very angry indeed...Best to remain silent, don't you think..?



Sure, many and I would even say that most, get very angry when we attempt to enlighten them, but there is always someone who will receive it. You never know who may be watching and listening from behind the scenes, who will experience the great awakening due to your efforts. Also, we must be careful not to be sucked into their useless arguments. State the facts, then leave it at that. We do not have to prove anything, just plant the seeds of the idea. Someone else may come along and water. Once they have heard the message, they are accountable to it. It is up to them what they do with it. One day, the scales may fall from their eyes. In that moment, they will remember every word you have said and it will become clear.

Never remain silent! But do use discernment. Better to bow out gracefully than to be provoked to argue. Ask for those to come across your path who are hungry, ready to hear and learn, those who are like sponges who will soak up all you say and take it to heart. Your JOY will be filled to overflowing as you bring enlightenment to them.

Get Informed...
Stay Informed...
Inform Others!!!

HL
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Feb 12, 2009 9:26 AM CST Fear is a virus we'll never cure. Could that be true in your opinion?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
Dusty45: Our information may come from different seemingly sources but
the content is pretty much the same. Nice to have another One
that understands. When we apply this Mindset, it is, at least
easier for us to move along with our Life.



Thank you Dusty!hug

Glad to be in agreement with your mindset!
See, we really are not all that different.
As we gain deeper insight into one another, we find that there is much more common ground than what we first believed from our initial surface scan.

peace kiss
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Feb 12, 2009 9:32 AM CST Fear is a virus we'll never cure. Could that be true in your opinion?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
Dusty45: I agree with the author of this thread.

At the risk of not being understood...

Nothing in this world is real.
This is a world made by the ego/fear.
We have 'made' a world of things and illusion.
The body we 'made' is only a means of communication.
Pain is ego based.
Pain is not real but only perceived that it is.
Since we have chosen to be of the world, our senses perceive
pain and fear.
When we are in touch with our Spirit we experience Love
which only knows Joy, Freedom, Life, God, Eternity.
Our Spirit Mind communicates with the Holy Spirit and
through to God.
Our Ego Mind dictates to the body and stays within the realm
of the world here.
We can listen to the Mind of the Spirit or we can listen to
the Mind of the Ego. We are given the will to choose which
one. It's always a choice between the two. The voice of the
Spirit is quieter than the voice of the Ego.
What we don't realize is that the Spirt holds Reality, Truth,
Knowledge, Creation.
Not the false illusions of the ego with the conflicts of the
world.

So there.



So there indeed!!!applause

Very well put, Dusty and I totally agree!!!!!teddybear
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Feb 12, 2009 10:43 AM CST Fear is a virus we'll never cure. Could that be true in your opinion?
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
COSMICDUST: Every aspect of human life is governed by fear.
Some unconscious or superconscious individuals may not agree with that. Any comments?


I am in constant fear that my internet connection will break down for days...or that my computer will crash...
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Feb 12, 2009 10:57 AM CST Fear is a virus we'll never cure. Could that be true in your opinion?
laura225
laura225laura225Somewhere, New York USA3 Threads 2 Polls 1,792 Posts
pretzelman: fear is a logical restraint from idiocy


thumbs up
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Feb 12, 2009 10:21 PM CST Fear is a virus we'll never cure. Could that be true in your opinion?
damonkyloe
damonkyloedamonkyloeInvercargill, Southland New Zealand12 Posts
cheers

Fear is, in fact for me too, a positive raw emotion. For without it's munificence one may not perceive the ideologies beginning it's debacle, an aspect of relative importance to any individual. Religious or not!

Again, for the individual, fear is a single emotion concatenated between motivation and capitulation. My likeliness of the quote above.

Personally, I deplore those whom succumb to it's manipulations, and even more, those whom implore it's malignance.
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Feb 12, 2009 10:25 PM CST Fear is a virus we'll never cure. Could that be true in your opinion?
damonkyloe
damonkyloedamonkyloeInvercargill, Southland New Zealand12 Posts
My "quote above" referring to...

takeit4granted:
In response to: textfear can be a motivator,,or a handicap
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Feb 13, 2009 12:16 AM CST Fear is a virus we'll never cure. Could that be true in your opinion?
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
damonkyloe: Fear is, in fact for me too, a positive raw emotion. For without it's munificence one may not perceive the ideologies beginning it's debacle, an aspect of relative importance to any individual. Religious or not!

Again, for the individual, fear is a single emotion concatenated between motivation and capitulation. My likeliness of the quote above.

Personally, I deplore those whom succumb to it's manipulations, and even more, those whom implore it's malignance.


Well said, but wtf does that word mean? I'm too lazy to google that...big word there my man lol...

Anyways, fear is BS! There is no such thing as fear until you let it into your head and emotions. Fear is created in your mind.

It takes a deep understanding to be immune to fear as well as a simplistic yet complicated perspective on things. Dare I say 'I don't give a F**k' attitude in some ways.
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Feb 13, 2009 6:53 AM CST Fear is a virus we'll never cure. Could that be true in your opinion?
damonkyloe
damonkyloedamonkyloeInvercargill, Southland New Zealand12 Posts
StressFree: Well said, but wtf does that word mean? I'm too lazy to google that...big word there my man lol...

Anyways, fear is BS! There is no such thing as fear until you let it into your head and emotions. Fear is created in your mind.

It takes a deep understanding to be immune to fear as well as a simplistic yet complicated perspective on things. Dare I say 'I don't give a F**k' attitude in some ways.


Thanks, good question!

A linear perspective when writing this, a personal preference in regard. Anyway...

A contrast of fear and a linear perspective:

____ *****************_________
Fear | <--> Capitulation -> | Contrast|
____| <--> Motivation ---> | ________|

Contrast = Motivation / Capitulation

or my preference...

Motivation <-> Fear(The subject) --> Capitulation

Here, the end game is 'All In' or as you put "GAF" it!

So you have Fear, Capitulation & Motivation that are truly concatenated(linked).
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Feb 13, 2009 7:05 AM CST Fear is a virus we'll never cure. Could that be true in your opinion?
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
damonkyloe: Thanks, good question!

A linear perspective when writing this, a personal preference in regard. Anyway...

A contrast of fear and a linear perspective:

____ *****************_________
Fear | <--> Capitulation -> | Contrast|
____| <--> Motivation ---> | ________|

Contrast = Motivation / Capitulation

or my preference...

Motivation <-> Fear(The subject) --> Capitulation

Here, the end game is 'All In' or as you put "GAF" it!

So you have Fear, Capitulation & Motivation that are truly concatenated(linked).


Impressive work my man!

Can you write up a formula of how our worst fears become reality?

Like of how we perceive what we focus on into reality? Good and bad? hmmm

This is why exactly I don't buy into fear or stress...cause if I do, then it manifests. Now I'm just focusing on hooking up with Kate Perry...laugh
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