Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse ( Archived) (30)

Feb 22, 2009 3:07 PM CST Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse
norslyman
norslymannorslymanMinneapolis, Minnesota USA21 Threads 151 Posts
How is it that a so-called modern society can go backwards in so many areas instead of forward? Especially in the area of farming and livestock, of which the bible has much to say.

Yahweh cared very much for the well being of animals and they were sacrificed in the most humane way possible. Also, the smell of the incense would have covered the smell of the blood to a degree and put the animal more at ease.

Compare that to the absolute horror that a cow experiences as it smells the blood of death.


My students have done research. A cow at the slaughterhouse hears the sounds made by those being slaughtered, and fear hormones are created in the cow. When a person eats this cow, what is he eating? He is eating fear. After working with thousands of patients all over the world, I have observed that everyone eating meat suffers from multiple emotional upsets, such as fear, depression, anxiety and especially anger. So, if this effects the emotional body, what about the spiritual body? If you are eating meat, can you concentrate? My master says: "If you want to meditate, you have to sit in a very quiet place, in good surroundings."

If your stomach is a graveyard, is it possible to meditate? A vegetarian diet is the only real prescription for physical health, mental health, emotional health and spiritual development. It's very, very hard for people who eat meat to become spiritual.


I disagree with this last part. Obviously the Israelites ate lots of meat. We just have to eat grass-fed cattle killed in a humane way. Also the fat was always burned. Yahweh knew way before we did that it wasn't healthy for us.

Another thing the incense would have done is act as a disinfectant. Killing any bacteria. The Temple was also cleaned thoroughly every week. It was an EXTREMELY clean place. Don't even have to comment on a slauterhouse.

Some other areas of farming:

Leviticus 19:19 Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.

Deuteronomy 22:9 Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard with divers seeds: lest the fruit of thy seed which thou hast sown, and the fruit of thy vineyard, be defiled.

GMO seeds from Monsanto (Monsatan) are proving to be a sci-fi nightmare. Total insanity. The poisoning of our food supply. Just imagine if Al-Queda (AllCiaDa) poisoned our food? People would be running around like a chicken with its head chopped off. Total pandemonium. 24hr news coverage. But a Fascist Corporation - no problem. They are actually FORCING Iraq to accept GMO seed! Liberating them from health I guess.

This subject deserves it's own post, so I won't get into it.

Another practice that needs to come back is the 7 year rest of the land so it can rejuvinate it's nutrients. Our soil is completely depleted. No nutrients in the soil, no nutrients in our food.

The people of the bible were an agricultural society with a connection to the land and their creator. How far we have strayed! Most people don't think twice about where their food comes from. I'm afraid famine is on the way. I think the disappearing honeybee is a BAD OMEN of things to come.
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Feb 22, 2009 4:54 PM CST Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
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Feb 22, 2009 5:01 PM CST Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse
immanuelle
immanuelleimmanuelleThe Hague, South Holland Netherlands63 Threads 1,962 Posts
You might be interested in reading up on Dr. Temple Grandin. She is a woman on the autistic spectrum who has a very interesting take on the perspective of animals and has been instrumental in implementing many changes. She has contributed a great deal into the understanding of autism.

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Feb 22, 2009 5:06 PM CST Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse
My daughter witnessed a bull fight in Spain. She said it was a the most barbaric thing she had ever seen.
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Feb 22, 2009 5:19 PM CST Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse
sambhava
sambhavasambhavaVasteras, Vastmanland Sweden3 Threads 1 Polls 584 Posts
People shouldn't even be eating corpses, and that's all there is to it!
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Feb 22, 2009 5:21 PM CST Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse
immanuelle
immanuelleimmanuelleThe Hague, South Holland Netherlands63 Threads 1,962 Posts
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: My daughter witnessed a bull fight in Spain. She said it was a the most barbaric thing she had ever seen.


In my opinion, it is. A completely unfair and barbaric situation. I saw one a few years ago and left in tears. The bull is weakened and demeaned by the picadors prior to the entrance of the matador. Maybe there is a beauty to this tradition and I just know not what it is.
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Feb 22, 2009 5:42 PM CST Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse
immanuelle: In my opinion, it is. A completely unfair and barbaric situation. I saw one a few years ago and left in tears. The bull is weakened and demeaned by the picadors prior to the entrance of the matador. Maybe there is a beauty to this tradition and I just know not what it is.
Except that the Matador isn't necessarily always coming out on top.A fact usually not broadcast too widely.

Nope,I don't think I would go and watch a Bullfight.
There are Bullfights however where there are no Weapons involved,and the Bull is not hurt.






Scroll down to "Recortes"and "French"

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Feb 22, 2009 5:58 PM CST Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse
immanuelle
immanuelleimmanuelleThe Hague, South Holland Netherlands63 Threads 1,962 Posts
Conrad73: Except that the Matador isn't necessarily always coming out on top.A fact usually not broadcast too widely.

Nope,I don't think I would go and watch a Bullfight.
There are Bullfights however where there are no Weapons involved,and the Bull is not hurt.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullfighting
Scroll down to "Recortes"and "French"


Thanks Sifu, I like the idea of man not being armed against the bull, although I don't understand why there is a need to watch an interaction where there is the risk of someone or something getting injured. I have to say, I love to watch kickboxing matches, but at least the two involved both give consent. Man against beast, only one has given consent to be involved. I know you may not be advocating it, but just informing so my questions are not directed at you. Thanks.

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Feb 22, 2009 6:11 PM CST Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse
Saluter
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Feb 22, 2009 6:12 PM CST Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: Saluter
Dear season in Wisconsin.

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Feb 22, 2009 7:22 PM CST Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
In response to: Yahweh cared very much for the well being of animals


"The seventh plague: thunder and lightening"

(God smashes animals and people with hail. This shows his concern for the environment?)

And the hail smote throughout all the land of Egypt all that was in the field, both man and beast. (Exodus 9:25)
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Feb 22, 2009 7:25 PM CST Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing ....i could'nt read past "the blood of death"......rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 23, 2009 1:41 AM CST Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse
jlw45: ....i could'nt read past "the blood of death"......
Gruesome,ain't it?rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 23, 2009 1:42 AM CST Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse
norslyman: How is it that a so-called modern society can go backwards in so many areas instead of forward? Especially in the area of farming and livestock, of which the bible has much to say.

Yahweh cared very much for the well being of animals and they were sacrificed in the most humane way possible. Also, the smell of the incense would have covered the smell of the blood to a degree and put the animal more at ease.

Compare that to the absolute horror that a cow experiences as it smells the blood of death.


My students have done research. A cow at the slaughterhouse hears the sounds made by those being slaughtered, and fear hormones are created in the cow. When a person eats this cow, what is he eating? He is eating fear. After working with thousands of patients all over the world, I have observed that everyone eating meat suffers from multiple emotional upsets, such as fear, depression, anxiety and especially anger. So, if this effects the emotional body, what about the spiritual body? If you are eating meat, can you concentrate? My master says: "If you want to meditate, you have to sit in a very quiet place, in good surroundings."

If your stomach is a graveyard, is it possible to meditate? A vegetarian diet is the only real prescription for physical health, mental health, emotional health and spiritual development. It's very, very hard for people who eat meat to become spiritual.


I disagree with this last part. Obviously the Israelites ate lots of meat. We just have to eat grass-fed cattle killed in a humane way. Also the fat was always burned. Yahweh knew way before we did that it wasn't healthy for us.

Another thing the incense would have done is act as a disinfectant. Killing any bacteria. The Temple was also cleaned thoroughly every week. It was an EXTREMELY clean place. Don't even have to comment on a slauterhouse.

Some other areas of farming:

Leviticus 19:19 Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.

Deuteronomy 22:9 Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard with divers seeds: lest the fruit of thy seed which thou hast sown, and the fruit of thy vineyard, be defiled.

GMO seeds from Monsanto (Monsatan) are proving to be a sci-fi nightmare. Total insanity. The poisoning of our food supply. Just imagine if Al-Queda (AllCiaDa) poisoned our food? People would be running around like a chicken with its head chopped off. Total pandemonium. 24hr news coverage. But a Fascist Corporation - no problem. They are actually FORCING Iraq to accept GMO seed! Liberating them from health I guess.

This subject deserves it's own post, so I won't get into it.

Another practice that needs to come back is the 7 year rest of the land so it can rejuvinate it's nutrients. Our soil is completely depleted. No nutrients in the soil, no nutrients in our food.

The people of the bible were an agricultural society with a connection to the land and their creator. How far we have strayed! Most people don't think twice about where their food comes from. I'm afraid famine is on the way. I think the disappearing honeybee is a BAD OMEN of things to come.
Sources,Sources,Sources!!!!!!!doh
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Feb 23, 2009 2:03 AM CST Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse
zee1ander
zee1anderzee1anderSomewhere, Kentucky USA52 Threads 4 Polls 1,758 Posts
I think the killing of plants, ie. beans, is barbaric in every way and to punish us for eating beans God causes us to create greenhouse gas which in turn destroys our Ozone, causing us to get wicked sunburns that cause cancer and killing man.

Look I made a stupid...

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Feb 23, 2009 9:53 AM CST Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
If Yahweh was such a "proponent of animal rights" as you claim then why the hell did he order the death of thousands of them over the course of the bible? While we are on the topic of cruelty and violence, why did he order the murder of thousands of humans also?

Why did god insist that EVERY innocent animal on the face of the planet be drowned minus a mating pair of each species to be placed on the ark? Of course you can’t drown sea creatures but obviously god didn’t think that part of his plan through.
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Feb 23, 2009 11:27 AM CST Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse
norslyman
norslymannorslymanMinneapolis, Minnesota USA21 Threads 151 Posts
Temple sacrifice served a very important function. It forced people to look at the gravity of their sin. The offerer had to pick an animal from his flock, lay his hands on it, and confess his sins. It was a very real illustration that sin=death. And as I say, the animal died a very painless, dignified death. Unlike Yashua, who suffered immensly before finally dying. The suffering was to heal our sickness, not just forgive sins.

And the meat did not go to waste either. The priests lived off of the temple sacrifices. They were not allowed any other form of income. These animals would have been dinner somewhere eventually.

The flood and Egypt. Mans fault. Like civilian casualties of war. I'm sure Yahweh wasn't happy to see innocents die. Remember, he knows "when a sparrow falls to the ground". It is HIS creation after all.

The temple sacrifice has ceased, but guess who does still do it. The world of the occult. They know that "the life is in the blood". THIS is the religion of the secret ruling elite. Even human sacrifice.blues
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Feb 23, 2009 11:34 AM CST Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse
littlewolf
littlewolflittlewolfnunya, Oklahoma USA10 Threads 526 Posts
zee1ander: I think the killing of plants, ie. beans, is barbaric in every way and to punish us for eating beans God causes us to create greenhouse gas which in turn destroys our Ozone, causing us to get wicked sunburns that cause cancer and killing man.

Look I made a stupid...

zee
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing Well at least I know now that my stomach is a grave yard.rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 23, 2009 11:43 AM CST Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
In response to: The flood and Egypt. Mans fault. Like civilian casualties of war. I'm sure Yahweh wasn't happy to see innocents die. Remember, he knows "when a sparrow falls to the ground". It is HIS creation after all.


So you totally failed to answer the questions I posed. Any day now. If the flood was "man's fault" why kill all the innocent animals also? Way to skirt the issue, senator. laugh
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Feb 23, 2009 12:08 PM CST Temple Sacrifice Vs Modern Slauterhouse
norslyman: Temple sacrifice served a very important function. It forced people to look at the gravity of their sin. The offerer had to pick an animal from his flock, lay his hands on it, and confess his sins. It was a very real illustration that sin=death. And as I say, the animal died a very painless, dignified death. Unlike Yashua, who suffered immensly before finally dying. The suffering was to heal our sickness, not just forgive sins.

And the meat did not go to waste either. The priests lived off of the temple sacrifices. They were not allowed any other form of income. These animals would have been dinner somewhere eventually.

The flood and Egypt. Mans fault. Like civilian casualties of war. I'm sure Yahweh wasn't happy to see innocents die. Remember, he knows "when a sparrow falls to the ground". It is HIS creation after all.

The temple sacrifice has ceased, but guess who does still do it. The world of the occult. They know that "the life is in the blood". THIS is the religion of the secret ruling elite. Even human sacrifice.
Have you ever inquired how an ancient Animal Sacrifice was done,or hoow an Animal has to be slaughtered under the Law for the meat to be Kosher?dunno
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