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a place to trade tips, tricks, and ideas for improvisational jamming. all levels welcome. no requirements...
poolpro
poolpro

A new blues improv video- What do ya think?

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Well as I said, just off the top of my head. Any comments and criticism welcome.
pikengren

suggestions?

anything you would like to see here?
pikengren

RE: Best proven way to play guitar. Lesson 2

howhas it been going ?

is there anything that any of us can help you with?
pikengren

g major/e minor

if you like traveling on the fretboard, this is a good on.
the top one is two octaves of g major.
the bottom one is three octaves of e minor.
the same pattern, with the necessary notes added to make it e minor.
the little numbers across the bottom are a recommended fingering.
the ones that got covered are 1 3 4 1 3
pikengren
pikengren

RE: Best proven way to play guitar.

and don't leave your cord at home. grin
pikengren

RE: Best proven way to play guitar. Lesson 2

i can relate. eventually they can get thick enough that water won't affect them as much.
it seems like playing right after your hands have been wet, and they are softer, breaks them down faster.
peacenserenity

RE: Best proven way to play guitar. Lesson 2

Thats where I'm at, new to the guitar. Seriously sore on the finger tips you harden them up a little, then it all goes to pot when you do the dishes :)
trulee01

Best proven way to play guitar. Lesson 2

Always remember string side up.grin
trulee01

Best proven way to play guitar.

Take guitar out of it's case. Any questions?
pikengren

RE: Hi there

that's awesome!

any ideas or concepts you could share would be really appreciated.
doesn't really matter what it is, whatever you have found useful.

and welcome
pce20104

Hi there

I'm a Grateful Dead Lead/Rthym/Guitarist/Vocalist,and playing over 25+ years, in working P-T bands, in the past. I am now looking to return as an entertainer
pikengren

RE: sweep shapes

try this one.
7 on 5, 5 on 4, 0 on 3, 0 on 4, 5 on 4, 4 on 3, 0 on 3, 0 on 4.

don't alternate pick it, use a sweeping motion. sounds better muted.
you'll notice that you are playing kind of an e minor (yes, i know, 7th if you count the open d) shape.

move the same minor shape down two frets, but use the same open notes.

once you get used to this, you can climb the neck in this fashion.

try plaing them in this order,


e minor, d minor, f major, e minor, g major, f major , a minor, f major, g major, e minor, f major, d minor.

it really sounds better if you go all the way to b, but i do something king of weird there, and my brain is a little too fried to sort out what
to call it right now.

i did try to explain a lot with as few words as possible here,,
so i might not have been clear, so if you have a question, please ask.

its tough to sweep because of all the constant up and down.
i still can't get it fast and smooth enough to match what i'm hearing in my head.
believe it or not, originally this stated out with me trying to do something weird
over a G7 chord, using the d minor shap with the open d and g strings.
pikengren

RE: sweep shapes

it's a nightmare to try to tab something on here.
its probably easier to explain what you are doing.

are you talking about arpeggios?
superstratrat

sweep shapes

ok why did my tab just get mangled when i posted it
superstratrat

sweep shapes

hey iv been searching for new sweep picking shapes as iv gotten bored and mastered the few shapes i know if any one can add a shape we could compile a great resource for improving ill get the ball rolling

e 12 15 12 this is a really fun shape
b 12 i use it all the time
g 12
d 14
a 14
e12 15
pikengren

tricks

here's one that can be a picking excersise, or you can try to tastefully use parts of it as a lick.

the whole thing is plaed on the g string.
think triplets. i'll just give the fret numbers.

4 -5- 0--- 2- 4- 0--- 5- 7- 0--- 4- 5- 0--- 7- 9- 0--- 5- 7- 0--- 9- 10- 0--- 7- 9- 0--- 10- 12- 0--- 9- 10- 0
on the way back down, try something like this
12- 14- 0--- 9- 10- 0--- 10- 12- 0--- 7- 9- 0--- 9- 10- 0--- 5- 7- 0--- 7- 9- 0--- 4- 5- 0--- 5- 7- 0--- 2- 4- 0

once you get used to it, you can change it to four note gruopings. 0- 4-5-4--- 0-2-4-2--- 0- 5- 7- 5--- 0- 4- 5- 4 and so on. this is all in a minor with the pedal tone being g, the minor 7th



sorry! when i posted it, it didn't keep the spacing that i typed in.
pikengren

tricks

here's one that can be a picking excersise, or you can try to tastefully use parts of it as a lick.

the whole thing is plaed on the g string.
think triplets.


i'll just give the fret numbers.

4 5 0 2 4 0 5 7 0 4 5 0 7 9 0 5 7 0 9 10 0 7 9 0 10 12 0 9 10 0



on the way back down, try something like this



12 14 0 9 10 0 10 12 0 7 9 0 9 10 0 5 7 0 7 9 0 4 5 0 5 7 0 2 4 0




once you get used to it, you can change it to four note gruopings.


0 454 0242 0 5 7 5 0 4 5 4 and so on.


this is all in a minor with the pedal tone being g, the minor 7th.
pikengren

pickin'

ever stop to take notice of the direction of your pick?
if you are playing an even number of notes, let's say four.
if you start on the downstroke, you would pick down up, down up.
this leaves you in position to repeat the exact same motion.

odd note groupings are different.

if you pick aan odd number of notes, it leaves you facing the opposite direction.

so if you are playing triplets, the first three would be down up down, the second three would be up down up, leaving you in position for the downstroke again.
if you have a weak upstroke, this can make it sound choppy, and ultimately hang you up and make you play sloer and with less fluidity than you are actually already capable of.

try setting a metronome at a comfortable speed, and picking the high e string with three notes between each click, being concious of the direction of the pick on the one beat, or the "click"
just play the string open, listening to hear if the notes sound evenly spaced.

then try four note groupings, first starting on the downstroke. after you practice that for a while, try four note groupings starting on the upstroke.

all that done, now play a scale up and down the string in triplets, then four note groupings.
you should start noticing a feeling of of more control over your picking.


then, why not try five note groupings? six? five is weird at first, but similar to three in that the pick ends in the opposite direction that you started.
doesn't take long before you don't have to count, and you just feel the timing.
pikengren

welcome

i'm hoping this could be a good place for the pickers on this site to hang out and exchange ideas.
what style of music you play is not important.
the only thing that is important is if you can learn something useful, or contribute something useful.
something useful can be in any form you wish. whether it's a lick, interesting chord progression or chord change, different perspective on the same old tired scale, or even just sharing your way of looking at playing, philosophies that you feel make you perform or create better.

all in the spirit of helping others to get what they want out of their playing, remembering everyone has different perspectives. i have learned things from absolute beginners before, simply because they looked at the same tired old thing from a different perspective.
i hope you might gain something useful here, and welcome!
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