Rights and privileges (6)
United Nations declarations are generally a bunch of empty and insincere posturing devised to make the powerful nations feel like they pretended to endorse all the right things, as an all-purpose excuse to go on acting with total disregard for the rest of the world.
They can all stand up and applaud these profound declarations, and pat each other on the backs. Meanwhile nothing changes, nothing is done about anything, and the existence of the United Nations has not brought about a peaceful world.
In other words, it's all a big political sham. And the fact that it is based in the United States should not be viewed as insignificant.
They can all stand up and applaud these profound declarations, and pat each other on the backs. Meanwhile nothing changes, nothing is done about anything, and the existence of the United Nations has not brought about a peaceful world.
In other words, it's all a big political sham. And the fact that it is based in the United States should not be viewed as insignificant.
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hairymonkey: United Nations declarations are generally a bunch of empty and insincere posturing devised to make the powerful nations feel like they pretended to endorse all the right things, as an all-purpose excuse to go on acting with total disregard for the rest of the world.
They can all stand up and applaud these profound declarations, and pat each other on the backs. Meanwhile nothing changes, nothing is done about anything, and the existence of the United Nations has not brought about a peaceful world.
In other words, it's all a big political sham. And the fact that it is based in the United States should not be viewed as insignificant.
They can all stand up and applaud these profound declarations, and pat each other on the backs. Meanwhile nothing changes, nothing is done about anything, and the existence of the United Nations has not brought about a peaceful world.
In other words, it's all a big political sham. And the fact that it is based in the United States should not be viewed as insignificant.
UN has not brought about a peaceful world, and I don't think it is possible. But it is hard to know what the world would be without UN, may be worse, may be not. Or a world without USA,lol?
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Iuchi_Zien: 1#. Human rights and privileges are too important to be given up to make the world a safer and better place.
2#. Making the world a better and safer place should not impact upon human rights and/or privileges.
#3. I would be prepared to have some of my rights and privileges curtailed, IF it made the world a better and safer place.
#4. Other feel free to explain.It is reckoned that 20% of the worlds population are consuming 60% of the worlds services and resources. We even enshrine consumerism in our human rights -:Can we ever have a fair and equal society when we refuse to allow the 80% a share of the 60% we consume? With China, India and Brazil's population looking towards first world style consumerism, what is going to give? Because there simply are not enough resources to go round are there?
Would we/Should we remove the right based upon economic position? or?
So based upon the twenty or so Human rights Articles, or UN Human rights, how many would you be prepared to give up for a safer, better world?
2#. Making the world a better and safer place should not impact upon human rights and/or privileges.
#3. I would be prepared to have some of my rights and privileges curtailed, IF it made the world a better and safer place.
#4. Other feel free to explain.It is reckoned that 20% of the worlds population are consuming 60% of the worlds services and resources. We even enshrine consumerism in our human rights -:Can we ever have a fair and equal society when we refuse to allow the 80% a share of the 60% we consume? With China, India and Brazil's population looking towards first world style consumerism, what is going to give? Because there simply are not enough resources to go round are there?
Would we/Should we remove the right based upon economic position? or?
So based upon the twenty or so Human rights Articles, or UN Human rights, how many would you be prepared to give up for a safer, better world?
Not easy to answer. May be property right will have to be removed when humanity will run out of resources? Or unconditional right for reproduction? Or the ship will go down proudly with all the rights?
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joyaepace: Not easy to answer. May be property right will have to be removed when humanity will run out of resources? Or unconditional right for reproduction? Or the ship will go down proudly with all the rights?
I was thinking about a conversation I had with an old Russian friend and he was talking about the 'good old days' of communism. I asked would he really want to go back to that time, no freedom of speach etc. His response was that he would rather sleep comfortably at night knowing he had a job and a future. The woreying thing was to some extent I agree.
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I lived in that system. True, there was always job security, but for promotion one had to be a party member. Well, not that many gave it a thought, if you have, you have. Kind of boring obligation to attend meetings and listen nonsense, but OK. People had more time for themselves, family, culture and education. Nobody took seriously party leaders, jokes about them were a theme of conversations all the time. Wages were not high, but prices were low too, and there were little choice of goods. For us girls, it was a big grief, we wanted to look nice. There also was shortage of apartments and a bit crowded conditions of living. Not to be able to travel was bad, we wanted to see the world. And we sense that it is all lies, no communism or socialism, just privileges for some and safe, but bland life for others. Now, lived also in capitalism, what shall I say. That system is bankrupt, and this is probably going same way. 
I have that same feeling I had in mid eighties. Hopelessness and sense that something must happen.
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hairymonkey: United Nations declarations are generally a bunch of empty and insincere posturing devised to make the powerful nations feel like they pretended to endorse all the right things, as an all-purpose excuse to go on acting with total disregard for the rest of the world.
They can all stand up and applaud these profound declarations, and pat each other on the backs. Meanwhile nothing changes, nothing is done about anything, and the existence of the United Nations has not brought about a peaceful world.
In other words, it's all a big political sham. And the fact that it is based in the United States should not be viewed as insignificant.
They can all stand up and applaud these profound declarations, and pat each other on the backs. Meanwhile nothing changes, nothing is done about anything, and the existence of the United Nations has not brought about a peaceful world.
In other words, it's all a big political sham. And the fact that it is based in the United States should not be viewed as insignificant.
Here's the problem I see with your argument. Some time ago I was involved in a discussion about the greatest things the US has brought to the world, the general consensus was the Bill of human rights. I disagreed vehemently that it was worthless at no point, in history has the US ever followed the premise 'All men are created equal' the response was that it was something to strive towards, in what way is that different from the UN Charter of human rights? The UN while ever it has countries with the capability to veto is always going to be fighting one handed. All of this however is off topic the question is What rights would you be prepared to give up for job security, safety, for you and your children?
God I HATE this new keyboard!!!
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Rights and privileges(Vote Below)
2#. Making the world a better and safer place should not impact upon human rights and/or privileges.
#3. I would be prepared to have some of my rights and privileges curtailed, IF it made the world a better and safer place.
#4. Other feel free to explain.
It is reckoned that 20% of the worlds population are consuming 60% of the worlds services and resources. We even enshrine consumerism in our human rights -:
Every natural or legal person is entitled to the peaceful enjoyment of his possessions.
No one shall be deprived of his possessions except in the public interest and subject to the conditions provided for by law and by the general principles of international law.
Can we ever have a fair and equal society when we refuse to allow the 80% a share of the 60% we consume? With China, India and Brazil's population looking towards first world style consumerism, what is going to give? Because there simply are not enough resources to go round are there?
Men and women of marriageable age shall have the right to marry and to found a family, according to national laws governing the exercise of this right.
Would we/Should we remove the right based upon economic position? or?
So based upon the twenty or so Human rights Articles, or UN Human rights, how many would you be prepared to give up for a safer, better world?